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slaacaa
lemmy.world
slaacaa@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-11 |
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slaacaa
lemmy.world
slaacaa@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-11 |
“Stanford student Billy Ramirez, a member of the class of 2027, told the publication that he remembered posing for the original photo, only to discover that he had been replaced by an AI-generated Black woman."
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slaacaa
lemmy.world
slaacaa@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-11 |
The Onion already covered this 26 years ago: https://theonion.com/black-guy-photoshopped-in-1819565862/ |
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Susaga
sh.itjust.works
Susaga@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-12 |
“Stanford student Billy Ramirez, a member of the class of 2027, told the publication that he remembered posing for the original photo, only to discover that he had been replaced by an AI-generated Black woman."
It is worth remembering that AI replaces the ENTIRE image, even if you ask it to change only one thing. That's why every single person in the image looks different. |
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givesomefucks
lemmy.world
givesomefucks@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
“Stanford student Billy Ramirez, a member of the class of 2027, told the publication that he remembered posing for the original photo, only to discover that he had been replaced by an AI-generated Black woman."
They merged the two white guys... Added a black woman... And took like 20lbs off the Asian woman. Its shitty, but I don't understand why it's news outside of Stanford. Reminds me of something Dean Pelton would do tho. |
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Possibly linux
lemmy.zip
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-06-26 |
What a time to be alive Also why is no one talking about the fact that they made the young women skinnier. Young women already feel have unrealistic expectations without AI in the mix. |
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jqubed
lemmy.world
jqubed@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-01-10 |
They merged the two white guys... Added a black woman... And took like 20lbs off the Asian woman. Its shitty, but I don't understand why it's news outside of Stanford. Reminds me of something Dean Pelton would do tho.
Maybe Pierce would’ve done it for marketing class and said something misogynistic about making the Asian woman thinner |
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thagoat
lemmy.dbzer0.com
thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-03-28 |
It is worth remembering that AI replaces the ENTIRE image, even if you ask it to change only one thing. That's why every single person in the image looks different.
The Asian girl and the white dude both got mildly more attractive. But Billy got that glow up! |
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Zedstrian
sopuli.xyz
Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2025-03-30 |
I'm sure right-wing publications will be having a field day with this. |
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swicano
programming.dev
swicano@programming.dev Joined: 2023-07-03 |
I'm sure right-wing publications will be having a field day with this.
There's already a nytimes piece, so, absolutely they are |
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lIlIlIlIlIlIl
lemmy.world
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-31 |
It is worth remembering that AI replaces the ENTIRE image, even if you ask it to change only one thing. That's why every single person in the image looks different.
If that is in fact how the system in question works. There are systems which allow you to edit regions, like Affinity |
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Susaga
sh.itjust.works
Susaga@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-12 |
If that is in fact how the system in question works. There are systems which allow you to edit regions, like Affinity
We know that's how the system works by the fact that every single person in the image looks different. |
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inb4_FoundTheVegan
lemmy.world
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-01-04 |
The specter of unaddressed racism has emerged from it's burrow, saw this vaguely well meaning body shaming tokenism and predicated at least two more years of explicitly and eager racist fascism. This probably well intending, but outlandishly naive, racist, virtue signaling shit places every non-straight white male in danger. No one asked for this ridiculous fake representation, but it will be sharpened into the dagger that kills us. |
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Chozo
fedia.io
Chozo@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-03-04 |
We know that's how the system works by the fact that every single person in the image looks different.
Or they ran a prompt with more than one unique request in it? |
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Arcanepotato
crazypeople.online
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineJoined: 2025-05-24 |
What a time to be alive Also why is no one talking about the fact that they made the young women skinnier. Young women already feel have unrealistic expectations without AI in the mix.
It's in the first paragraph.
I agree they effectively replaced the woman too, and gave the guy in the middle a haircut, cheek bone enhancements, eyebrow grooming and a bigger smile 😬 |
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Chozo
fedia.io
Chozo@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-03-04 |
It is worth remembering that AI replaces the ENTIRE image, even if you ask it to change only one thing. That's why every single person in the image looks different.
This is inaccurate, current models can target specific zones in an image. Midjourney was capable of that ages ago, and Midjourney is already basically ancient history at this point. |
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the_q
piefed.social
the_q@piefed.social Joined: 2026-08-04 |
They merged the two white guys... Added a black woman... And took like 20lbs off the Asian woman. Its shitty, but I don't understand why it's news outside of Stanford. Reminds me of something Dean Pelton would do tho.
You don't understand why it's news outside Stanford... |
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ImgurRefugee114
reddthat.com
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com Joined: 2025-08-26 |
It is worth remembering that AI replaces the ENTIRE image, even if you ask it to change only one thing. That's why every single person in the image looks different.
As someone else pointed out, there are systems where you can isolate and replace only a portion of the image while leaving the rest unchanged, but you're correct in this case, as you point out in your last sentence. This sort of system takes the input image which it blurs and adds noise, and then regenerates from that rather than an initial pure-noise seed. You can mask or add more noise to the areas that you want and more dramatic change. Whole image-to-image diffusion; mostly uses the same mechanisms as a regular text-to-image diffusion. |
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lIlIlIlIlIlIl
lemmy.world
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-31 |
We know that's how the system works by the fact that every single person in the image looks different.
We know how THIS system works - but Affinity is just one example of how you can modify an area with AI, not just the whole image. Are you asserting how every piece of software works, based on a single image example? Because that’s wildly incorrect. |
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SatansMaggotyCumFart
piefed.social
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-16 |
They merged the two white guys... Added a black woman... And took like 20lbs off the Asian woman. Its shitty, but I don't understand why it's news outside of Stanford. Reminds me of something Dean Pelton would do tho.
If the camera adds 10 pounds then it's basically break even. |
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Susaga
sh.itjust.works
Susaga@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-12 |
We know how THIS system works - but Affinity is just one example of how you can modify an area with AI, not just the whole image. Are you asserting how every piece of software works, based on a single image example? Because that’s wildly incorrect.
We aren't talking about other systems. Don't move the goalposts. |
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Susaga
sh.itjust.works
Susaga@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Or they ran a prompt with more than one unique request in it?
Why would they request to retexture the stone tiles at the top to have stronger speckles? That's not just "we turned up the contrast", cause the rest of the image has lower contrast. |
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CmdrShepard49
sh.itjust.works
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-05 |
We aren't talking about other systems. Don't move the goalposts.
You werent talking about any specific system at all until that user mentioned Affinity. I think you're moving the goal posts here as youre now trying to frame the discussion as if you were talking about some other yet unnamed system the whole time when your original comment mentioned nothing of the sort. |
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dgdft
lemmy.world
dgdft@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-26 |
We aren't talking about other systems. Don't move the goalposts.
As a neutral observer, you clearly and unambiguously moved the goalpost. |
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Chozo
fedia.io
Chozo@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-03-04 |
We aren't talking about other systems. Don't move the goalposts.
You don't know what system you even are talking about. |
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Chozo
fedia.io
Chozo@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-03-04 |
Why would they request to retexture the stone tiles at the top to have stronger speckles? That's not just "we turned up the contrast", cause the rest of the image has lower contrast.
It's kinda hard to judge the contrast difference, given that the left image is an arctifact-riddled JPG, and the right image is an artifact-riddled photo of a print. I'm just saying, a generative AI model does not inherently need to apply changes to the entire image. That is a very outdated understanding of the process, which tells me that it's probably been a hot minute since you've been paying any attention to AI, and therefore you probably shouldn't speak with such an authoritative tone on the subject. |
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SpamelaHamderson
piefed.social
SpamalaHamderson@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-27 |
The Asian girl and the white dude both got mildly more attractive. But Billy got that glow up!
Everyday I am more astounded at how well transracial people are passing! |
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Susaga
sh.itjust.works
Susaga@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-12 |
You werent talking about any specific system at all until that user mentioned Affinity. I think you're moving the goal posts here as youre now trying to frame the discussion as if you were talking about some other yet unnamed system the whole time when your original comment mentioned nothing of the sort.
They cast doubt, I point out proof, they deflect to other systems they might be right about. Sounds like they moved the goalposts to me. I don't need to know which system it is to know it does what we can see it do. |
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TheTechnician27
lemmy.world
TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-07-25 |
The Onion already covered this 26 years ago: https://theonion.com/black-guy-photoshopped-in-1819565862/
The oracle foretold* |
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CmdrShepard49
sh.itjust.works
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-05 |
If that is in fact how the system in question works. We know that’s how the system works by the fact... We know how THIS system works - but... They cast doubt, I point out proof, they deflect to other systems they might be right about. Sounds like they moved the goalposts to me. I don't need to know which system it is to know it does what we can see it do.
This is what they replied to. You made a blanket statement about using AI to edit photos not anything about any particular program or system. Furthermore, you can't know which system was used here as you dont know whether all these changes were intentionally done or simply a byproduct of using something that changes the entire image. |
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Chozo
fedia.io
Chozo@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-03-04 |
If that is in fact how the system in question works. We know that’s how the system works by the fact... We know how THIS system works - but... They cast doubt, I point out proof, they deflect to other systems they might be right about. Sounds like they moved the goalposts to me. I don't need to know which system it is to know it does what we can see it do.
That wasn't proof of anything. Not only does it not make any sense in the context of the discussion, it was incorrect ("every single person in the image looks different"), as there are more than three people in the image that you probably didn't notice, and they appear to be largely untouched. Brother... are you an AI? |
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Natanael
infosec.pub
Natanael@infosec.pub Joined: 2025-01-18 |
It's kinda hard to judge the contrast difference, given that the left image is an arctifact-riddled JPG, and the right image is an artifact-riddled photo of a print. I'm just saying, a generative AI model does not inherently need to apply changes to the entire image. That is a very outdated understanding of the process, which tells me that it's probably been a hot minute since you've been payin...
Regional control (especially ControlNet) was a thing before the current models got popular. Which is precisely why I hate the fact that the general lazy models are the only ones that are popular. Where the hell is the tooling to do fancy controlled geometric transforms plus style transfer in a controlled manner, etc? It's all just "write a prompt and run it a hundred times", nobody want to put human effort into the system anymore |
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Yuccagnocchiyaki
lemmy.world
Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-04-08 |
What a time to be alive Also why is no one talking about the fact that they made the young women skinnier. Young women already feel have unrealistic expectations without AI in the mix.
They actually changed all of them. It's kind of odd that they even photographed anyone at all? |
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slacktoid
lemmy.ml
slacktoid@lemmy.mlJoined: 2021-08-18 |
It's in the first paragraph. Stanford University acknowledged Tuesday that artificial intelligence was used to alter a photograph of three students for promotional materials, replacing a male student with a Black woman and making another student appear thinner I agree they effectively replaced the woman too, and gave the guy in the middle a haircut, cheek bone enhancements, eyebrow grooming and...
I need the biggest smile please, the most smile possible |
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tal
lemmy.today
tal@lemmy.todayJoined: 2023-10-04 |
If the camera adds 10 pounds then it's basically break even.
The camera doesn't shorten that neck extension that the Asian girl got, though! |
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Arcanepotato
crazypeople.online
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineJoined: 2025-05-24 |
I need the biggest smile please, the most smile possible
Black hole sun, won't you come... |
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arak
lemmy.today
arak@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-09 |
The Onion already covered this 26 years ago: https://theonion.com/black-guy-photoshopped-in-1819565862/
i was like no way the onion talked about photoshop 26 years ago! 2000 was 26 years ago.... shit |
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likebudda
reddthat.com
likebudda@reddthat.com Joined: 2026-08-20 |
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grimWar
sh.itjust.works
grimWar@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-02-13 |
I need the biggest smile please, the most smile possible
I want you to do it happier and with your mouth open.
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Linktank
lemmy.today
Linktank@lemmy.today Joined: 2024-08-07 |
Really going to trigger the "replacement theory" morons. |
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nilloc
discuss.tchncs.de
nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-06-22 |
The Asian girl and the white dude both got mildly more attractive. But Billy got that glow up!
The middle dude is a mash-up of the two guys in the original. One face and one hair. |
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Uriel238 [all pronouns]
lemmy.blahaj.zone
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2023-06-25 |
When I see conservative political or ideological ads with black people, I assume they're (desperate) actors, but AI works too. |
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Uriel238 [all pronouns]
lemmy.blahaj.zone
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2023-06-25 |
What a time to be alive Also why is no one talking about the fact that they made the young women skinnier. Young women already feel have unrealistic expectations without AI in the mix.
It's not new. Once it became possible to shop hi-res photographs, it became standard to narrow fashion models slightly in order to make them look even thinner. I learned about it from documentaries intended to highlight the unrealistic appearance expectations that are driven by media. |
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jve
lemmy.world
jve@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-24 |
Somebody hasn’t used photoshop in a while. |
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HadzTheChronicest
piefed.social
HadzTheChronicest@piefed.social Joined: 2026-08-19 |
As a neutral observer, you clearly and unambiguously moved the goalpost.
This article is about Stanford U using AI on a photo of their students. No one was talking about what system they used. Then lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world started talking about Affinity, which is making it seem like people who are pro AI are moving the goalpost to avoid talking about the issue. The issue being that AI is being used inappropriately. It seems there are different AI systems. One that can modify a specific region and one that needs to modify the whole image. I doubt that anyone who came to this post cares what system Stanford used. They just hate that this is happening. You are moving the goalpost, changing the subject, and talking about a new subject. When Susaga@sh.itjust.works brought this up, you did turn on him and continued to talk about AI systems. |
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WillieShen
lemmy.world
WillieShen@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-08-15 |
No: AI |
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/home/pineapplelover
lemmy.dbzer0.com
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-30 |
Holy |
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lemmy.dbzer0.com
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-30 |
I like how the AI also changed his shirt and removed the guy's headphones |
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LittleBorat3
lemmy.world
LittleBorat3@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-08-07 |
The second most obvious thing is that they made the ones allowed to stay in the photo more attractive. I'd be a little weirded out if I see a more attractive version of me (but not really me)in a photo. |
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moldy_rice
piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.comJoined: 2026-08-07 Banned |
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