close, but my father is dead.

Very similar except both have strong narcissist traits and lack empathy.

Now you're stuck in a life you didn't expect to see so it's kinda awkward because you weren't supposed to be here.

Feels like those videogames in which you fall off the map or glitch in a way that lets you get to a part where you shouldn't be and everything is weird because the game itself isn't prepared for what's happening.

Also yeah, mother is a narcissist, father is emotionally stunted and both were heavy drinkers and smokers when I was a kid. Yay! I relate!

Wrong!

My father is the narcissist and my mom is emotionally stunted.

You're not my wife...right? Never took her for a SailorFuzz type a gal

And you have mixed feelings about it.

Well I didn't think I'd die young, I guess my life really is totally unique

insert "I'm in this photo and I don't like it" meme

Not only that, but now I'm emotionally stunted and married to a narcissist, and our son is neurodivergent.

In reality you parents are almost certainly also neurodivergent too

My dad is, 100%. Does that mean he'll care and get a diagnosis? Hell no

Damn you must be messed up

Three out of four ain't bad. Oh, wait ...

When and how did you find out your partner is a narcissist?

I didnt think i'd die young. But that i'd die alone and now i have a husband

Nooo. That would make them neurotypical.

If I’d known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.

Holy fuck, I've never felt like the eye of sauron was looking directly at me until now.

My mother tries to use it as an excuse now that Ive been diagnosed.

Has anyone out there survived this character creation diceroll?

Why is the autism community demonising people with NPD? Can't the neurodivergent community stand together against ableism?

To be honest, autistic people who hate narcissitic people give Me the same vibe as gay people who hate trans people. It's putting other people within the community down as if they're our oppressors. Hey, maybe a neuronormative society is the cause of our suffering, and demonising egodivergence is just enforcing a bigoted worldview that will come back to hurt us.

NPD and autism both run in My family. I have NPD and autism and I was abused by My primary caretaker because of her neurodivergence. She had (and I wouldn't say this if I weren't tilted by the slur in the OP) "malignant untreated autism". By which I mean, she had language difficulties with My new name and pronouns, and the constant noise she needed for her sensory issues provoked My sensory issues.

It is possible for the ND community to all get along and work against neuronormaty. But it'll never happen while autistic pickmes are out here demonising NPD.

I'm so sorry that your partner has to put up with a spouse who demonises their neurodivergence.

Many of us have had turbulent relationships with parents or siblings. Combine that with the cloud of pop-psy disinfo surrounding personality disorders it's bound to happen.

I personally don't know how to call it out without making people feel like I'm blaming them for something real they suffered at the hands of a disregulated person, or an average abuser who they perceive to be disregulated. Coming at the issue from that side just seems like it will only spread the stigma.

My dad was neglectful undiagnosed autistic, my mom was emotionally volatile undiagnosed ADHD. And I am traumatized (cPTSD) AuDHD

And with an unexpected decades to go

yeah this is exactly me. I didnt intend to even make it to 18 yet here i am

One thing I did to try and help was invent the word "theseist", based on the Greek Theseus, who abandoned his GF on an island and kidnapped 12 year old Helen of Troy to marry her, because he thought it would bring him glory. Theseus deserves the hate, and there's no link to any mental disorders or other stigmas. We can give people new, better words to replace the bad ones.

But I was honestly so tilted by this meme, because I expect better from the community. We should be better than this, I was shocked and betrayed and angry. So My first instinct was not to give people better words, it was to react.

But yeah I don't have the luxury of not engaging with people who use these tropes. I have NPD and I'm ace, so I get hit with both of the stigmas of this word. It triggers Me in the moment, and it contributes to a societal culture that has abused Me time after time. It's easy to DARVO a n*rcissist.

I got a 16 in stair jumping

space travel's in my blood, nothing I can do about it babe...

Poorly worded memes aside this really is one of the places on fediverse where you have no enemies. Lady Butterfly is pretty chill and empathetic when she's actually running the account manually so I think she'd get it. I've seen you go to bat for other stigmatized people who to my knowledge you didn't have an intersection in common with so I think you deserve that too.

As for everyone's awareness of personality disorders, it's all a work in progress right? Gotta meet people where they're at. And I hope where you're at feels better soon.

That is a pretty lit stat. I guess I'd dump a few scores for that

What kind of sorcery is this? It's literally me!

Hey can you not equate a myth about ego centrism and self obsession with a valid sexuality k thanks.

It might have something to do with the large number of narcissists running the world currently. Just a thought

Same way I hate pedofiles that hurt children.

I was an asshole here, edited but you are being mean.

Are you trying to make narcissist a slur like boomers?

I damn near ended up in the military I was so shocked to survive high school. Fuckin what the hell was I going to do? My routine! It was all gone!

We are you capitalizing my and me?

Yeah, Lady Butterfly is great every other time I've seen her, so I was really surprised. Did you say she's automated her account?

Thanks for the kind words. Unfortunately, they're not all true, as this community does have some people who are not allies. I've just received a private message from the mod of the community claiming that My reports against the ableist slur are false. I'm told I'll be banned if I do it again. And I've also received... this hate speech

I really want to report the hate speech, but I've been clearly warned that I'll be banned if do, so I don't think I can. I don't feel safe in this community right now at all.

I understand that I was pretty sassy in the above comment, but regardless of My sass I do have to ask: Do you normally make a point of insulting people in relation to their mental disorders?

The boomers would never do something so based

Neopronouns

Not fully automated, she just has scheduled posts. I'm pretty sure she's behind the wheel for her discussion posts on c/womensstuff at the very least. She definitely leaves comments still

Narcissus was a 16 year old boy who just wanted to be a hunter. Much like the goddess Artemis, he wanted to live in the forest and eschew all romantic and sexual connections.

He may have preferred isolation because he was famous across all of the Hellenic world for his great beauty. And no matter how many people asked this teenage boy for his hand in marriage or to have intimate relations, he refused.

There was one man, Ameinias, who would propose marriage to Narcissus again and again. He wouldn't take no for an answer. One day, narcissus got completely fed up with it, and gave Ameinias a sword. He told the sexual harasser to go kill himself.

Ameinias did as he was told, and stabbed himself in the heart with the sword. But before he died, he prayed to Nemesis, "Though he should love, let him not have what he loves!" Nemesis agreed.

Narcissus loved nobody, at least not romantically or erotically. But after Nemesis agreed to Ameinias' prayer, he noticed his reflection in a pond. Recognising himself for the first time in the way other people saw him, he became infatuated. Narcissus had neither food nor drink for the rest of his life. He simply sat and stared at himself until he died.

When he died, the nymphs of the forest, who loved him, grew flowers around his body. Narcissus flowers.

Nemesis is the goddess of punishment for hubris. She punishes mortals who think they're better than the gods. Why would she punish Narcissus?

My theory is: The ancient Greeks (and their gods) were so aphobic, they thought if someone didn't want to have sex, it's because they think they're better than everyone else.

I recognise that aphobic Greeks and aphobic westerners have lied to you about this myth. But Narcissus is our history, as asexuals. This is what people thought of us for 2,000 years. And it needs to change.

Thanks. I hope she sees My comment.

I see you're commenting from lemmy.blahaj.zone. You realise conservatives say the exact same thing about you and Me because we're trans, as you're saying about Me because I have NPD?

Hatred is a double edged sword and if you use it on people in the community, you'll cut your own nose off.

First thing to remember: this is a myth

Second thing to remember: you are trying to play chicken with a retelling of an already ancient myth by Ovid (who isn't fucking greek) who uses it as a way to explore concepts of obsession and - you guessed it! - narcissistic self involvement.

Literally, the original story makes no mention of echo, but a whole lot about the dude being a little bastard who was so self involved the only thing he could love was himself. Ovid added some things, but narcissus was never a woobie aroace, that shit is internet headcanon. Headcanons are fun, but don't pretend this is scholarly fact.

Actually, all the stuff about Ameinias is from Conon's Narrations, a Greek text from between 63 BC and 14 CE.

I'm gonna have to press X to doubt on you having read the "original story", since it was an oral tradition that later got transcribed to text. I've cited both Ovid and Conon. Would you like to cite a specific scholar, or would you rather claim you personally went back in time 2,000+ years to talk to the original oral storytellers?

EDIT: Conon also wrote:

And from that the Thespians honor and reverence Eros especially, and learned to sacrifice to him both in the common rituals and privately.

According to this ancient greek scholar, we need to have sex even if we don't want to, out of deference to the gods. Cause they're aphobes. And you're making excuses for them.