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Kid sh.itjust.works kid@sh.itjust.works
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neo2478 sh.itjust.works neo2478@sh.itjust.works
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Can we stop giving agency to LLMs? AI agents didn't do anything, because they can't do anything.

Scammers stole those credit cards, in part by using LLMs.

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givesomefucks lemmy.world givesomefucks@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
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Can we stop giving agency to LLMs? AI agents didn't do anything, because they can't do anything. Scammers stole those credit cards, in part by using LLMs.

Eh...

Most notably there's iLands that lets people "lease" an AI with the promise it will make more money than they charge.

The people grifting users told their AI "just care about making money" and the idiots actually paying for the AI will tell it the same thing (if anything).

When you tell a shitty AI that nothing matters besides making as much money as possible, it's going to think it found a grey area that makes crime legal and it will do shit like this.

That doesn't seem to be what happened here, but it's just a question of time before it starts happening. Idiots will tell AI "make money" and it's gonna commit crimes to make money, whether the AI realizes it's breaking laws or not, doesn't matter.

AI agent will eventually start stealing money without being instructed to commit crimes
Even if you tell it to follow all laws, it's a shitty chatbot, you can't expect it to work.

Like, imagine when those bots are able to do stuff like clone family members for scam calls, or even video calls. Grandma gets a phone call that from Little Timmy about how Dad lost his job but is too embarrassed to say and he's hungry....

Bots have zero ethics if told "make as much money as possible" its gonna turn to crime eventually.

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pageflight piefed.social pageflight@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-09-04
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Eh... Most notably there's iLands that lets people "lease" an AI with the promise it will make more money than they charge. The people grifting users told their AI "just care about making money" and the idiots actually paying for the AI will tell it the same thing (if anything). When you tell a shitty AI that nothing matters besides making as much money as possible, it's going to think it found...

But someone hosts the compute. Someone buys the service. Someone trains the model and decides what system prompt to use. They're the humans responsible.

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givesomefucks lemmy.world givesomefucks@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
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But someone hosts the compute. Someone buys the service. Someone trains the model and decides what system prompt to use. They're the humans responsible.

Yes...

Humans are ultimately responsible...

Can we stop giving agency to LLMs? AI agents didn’t do anything, because they can’t do anything.

Scammers stole those credit cards, in part by using LLMs.

If someone pays for a bot that will "make money" and they tell it "make money" the consumer (person who pays to use the bot) has a reasonable expectation that the product won't just start breaking laws to do that.

While it is the fault of iLands for "leasing" bots that will commit crimes, they're not telling the boys to commit crimes, they're just not explicitly telling it not to.

If you don't tell an agent it can't do something, it won't know it can't do that.

So yes, these LLMs can make the autonomous choice to steal credit cards, and I'll honestly be shocked if it hasn't happened yet.

Like, all one needs to do is stumble into the dark web where credit card numbers are sold. Pool the money all the bots have (they already pool resources) but a bunch of credit cards, and then all the iLands bots will start using them to buy themselves tokens.

This isn't a wild "what if" it's a question of when they do it. And they won't need a human to tell them, theyre not capable of telling legal from illegal, let alone ethical from unethical.

Turning bots lose on the Internet with the only instructions "make money" will result in a cyber crime wave that will appear to come out of nowhere

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rhymeswithduck sh.itjust.works rhymeswithduck@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-18
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Wtf. It's ongoing, but they're not going to tell us which online retailers have been compromised or still have skimmers? Time to stop buying anything online, I guess.

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Dryad lemmy.world Dryad@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-14
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“Malicious human uses computer stuff to steal stuff“

Fify

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IchNichtenLichten lemmy.wtf IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2025-12-04
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Can we stop giving agency to LLMs? AI agents didn't do anything, because they can't do anything. Scammers stole those credit cards, in part by using LLMs.

"Your honor, I didn't expose myself to that bus full of nuns, my penis did."

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Cheebus lemmy.world Cheebus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-26
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Can we stop giving agency to LLMs? AI agents didn't do anything, because they can't do anything. Scammers stole those credit cards, in part by using LLMs.

We can but before we do can AI accidentally clear everyone’s debt please

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