Already blocked the ass

I think thats part of OPs tag for the user

Ah lol, my bad. Yeah I haven't seen much of it but most of the sloppers and slopper instances have me blocked so maybe thats why. Or maybe nobody on my instance follows to any of the affected feeds.

Yeah, that's true. Thinking about it more 'just block them' only really works if they aren't most of the platform. I make most of my posts to encourage discussion, and I don't see repost bots doing much to that end.

Ah i see, and i did, thank you. I now also see the little chip icon, i saw that before and did not realise what it was. I am an idiot.

They provide more low quality reddit slop. I would actually like to see more text based discussions rather than endless memes. Or a picture of something you have made and a discussion about it.

I think its in DIY someone has been posting a few times about making various things from cardboard and glue. More stuff like that!

I think it can work for meme/shitpost type communities. But anything hobby related you really need to add something to prompt actual discussion.

Although if you have a bot doing it there isn't even any quality control.

So the solution is to subscribe to good communities or block bad ones.

If you can detect it, you could auto ban them, no?

I think a rule against serial reposting would be fine and, probably, popular.

Quality of engagement is important, you're right. By the time I'd written everything out I'd already mostly thought myself almost all the way to being against bots, but this makes sense. Taking your position, bots gotta go.

All of those posts are heavily upvoted and have multiple comments though? Accreditation, etc. are all valid critiques, but I genuinely don't understand why so many people care about the provenance of posts.

I guess I'm in the extreme minority, but like... All the posts in OP are heavily upvoted and spawned comments. That's... good? I don't see why people care more about where a post comes from than the fact that large stretches of the Threadiverse are barren and reposts are the only content available.

Sanitation is my most upvoted Threadiverse poster, and I'd rather have their content than nothing. Which, largely, is the alternative.

All the posts in the OP seem to have generated engagement though. Just because the poster is a bot doesn't mean all comments are.

I wouldn't like a blanket rule like that. I think that dropdown menu in the screenshot is perfect. Especially if paired with a toggle in the community settings that lets the mods ban posts from them entirely.

I do like that posters who seem ro manually post filter the stuff from other sites which in my opinion increases the average quality of posts. Reddit is a tidal wave with a few gems. The fediverse is mostly the gems, like using cheesecloth in a strainer.

That's what was giving me so much uncertainty in either direction, there's always some gulf between how people act and what they say they want. You have to come at it not just from a metrics angle, but with a little wisdom as well. I think sure, people upvote bots like crazy and that's probably why Reddit doesn't get rid of them because it helps their metrics. We don't rely on that financial model, and bots probably do stifle genuine discussion to some degree by sheer noise:signal. I could be swayed still, but I'd need to see solid evidence to show that bots actually help communities thrive. It's probably highly contextual as well, some types of !c probably benefit from bots more than others would, but any bots will tend to dominate an /all feed.

I don't mind, if content is interesting. I was forced to post fairly big news no one else bothered with today.

Lucky.

I looked at a few of the posts from the screen shot and most of that "engagement" is people warning other people that it's bot posted content, or pointing out reposted Reddit memes. I don't consider that real engagement. There are a few that seen to have created real discussion, but the majority of the posts are noise.

I post pictures of bread I bake and I’m on the upper lower middle side of mid for my baking skills.

If someone picks the best bread on a subreddit with a million members my posts will be buried instantly so what’s the point in adding real content?

You're right, that'd be a really useful heuristic. I comment way more than I post, but whenever I do post, I always make sure to reply to at least a few of the comments people leave. It feels almost like a duty, and I'd feel bad if I didn't at least try.

I think that's a bad analogy for a few reasons. First, all the examples you've posted are specifically meme template-friendly subs, which makes sense since they're inherently easy to repost. I don't think think a baking community would have that problem. But even if it did, you could just start a new baking community that bans reposts? Given how unpopular repost bots are, I assume your anti-repost baking community would be more popular than the hypothetical pro-repost baking community that your posts are buried in. Assuming that repost bots are drowning out more organic content, which prima facie doesn't seem to be the case in either community you screenshotted as examples. Both seem like pretty solid examples of their being no other content.

Structurally speaking, up and down votes should ideally, roughly sort posts by quality. A post being buried (unpopular) in a community isn't necessarily a bad thing.

If fear of not getting enough internet points is what's keeping someone from posting, that's more on them.

Nah i thought I was looking at a picture of reddit for a moment.

I hate the reddit reposts where the only interaction is on reddit .. that defeats the point of lemmy\fediverse?

If I wanted to battle bots for engagement I’d be on reddit.

And what happens when you get this detection wrong?

Probably my least favorite Lemmy user of all time. He truly believes he's not making this place worse.

They admit to running a bunch of ai powered accounts.

They definitely are, I just don't think oldmanalex is one of them. I could be wrong! I think all repost bots should get banned regardless

They're spending money on this pollution? What a loser

Truth be told, I was kind of hoping for a reply of "use this client, it does exactly that!" I'll let you know if someone gives me one.

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

And I assumed an answer before I asked.

I'm not infuriated by more content that we desperately need.

Is that the incel on shit posting?

Isn't that just a client side filter, would be up to whoever runs the community/instance rules for handling bot accounts, and if they feel the accounts should be banned.

It almost certainly is, Both Sanitation and Time2lose use the term "reddit agent" when people point out the automated reposts.

You're not battling anyone for engagement because you're not posting anything yourself. All you can offer is hyptheticals with no supporting evidence.

Why don't you go hang out in /askscience or /askhistorians with Portnou if you want all organic content. He and his multiple personalities are posting there dozens of times per day and those communities are just popping off with content and activity.

Wish they'd get IP banned. The second account exists to circumvent the community bans of the first

The solution is for all these people complaining to post new, original content every day and give lots of engagement with each one. Since that takes a shit ton of effort and most people work and have lives outside of the internet, they're unwilling to do that because it would be a full time job, but they'll still complain about it and demand that someone else fix it for them.

Personally I don't mind it too much, as long as

• there's no vote manipulation to artificially boost the post
• there are genuine interactions in the comments
• the account posting this is properly labelled as a bot account (if it's an actual bot)

kinda wierd for someone with a yr history that only posted a few things early on and then a few more 3 months ago who then also is on so unoften he does not recognize your handle to make this statement about your user. had to tag that.

I don't whine about lack of content. Heck I have a ton of meme, sport, non english communities blocked and I still see plenty of content.

I was just saying this last night to your mom. She was quiet though given her mouth was full.

Every single post listed in the screenshot shows engagement. Furthermore, communities like /funny are always going to be populated with stuff that has been reposted all across the internet because its such a generic topic that requires the content to actually be somewhat funny. Unless you have some resident comedians lurking here, you aren't going to find much original funny content.

Yeah never been a fan of drive-by posting myself.

I don't expect it from everyone every day. You just need a few people at a time.

Better ways to search for or pay attention to niche communities might help too. Scaled seems like its supposed to attempt to give them more focus but I don't think it works very well when I have tried it. Problem is if I sub to 50 tiny communities and 1 popular one, my subscribed feed is dominated by the popular one and anything else will be drowned out.

Upset that your daily screenshots of the mod log aren't getting much engagement? Perhaps you're jealous that your reposts from /r/news aren't getting as much traction as time2lose's reposts? What engagement are you generating other than your current crusade against this specific user?

Edit: its also interesting that not only have you started a crusade against users for posting content that you don't agree with (even though you don't hold yourself to the same standard as evidenced by all your own reposts), but you've also started a community for you to start a crusade against mods for making decisions that you don't agree with. There seems to be a pattern here where everything revolves around you and everyone needing to meet your demands.