Still buffering, give it a minute. It's gotta squeeze through the tubes.

Not sure if you’d gain all that much with your level of experience. LFS might be a better starting point. However, after suggesting doing a stage 2 to a few that were eager to learn more (even though they’d been using it for a very long time), it was generally a positive experience. If you go through the guide I’m sure you’d be able to tell quickly whether it would be useful.

I think it's /ˈlɪn.əks/
It's horritic tho, tbh

And they just accept Windows?

I once tried Gentoo stage 1 because I felt bad ass and failed miserably. However that also taught me a lot.

Hahah. At least you learned some things. Took me a few goes after thinking I was slick having stage 2 down pat. Then tried some BSDs and was humbled again.

Now I just wanna know whether GNU is Guh-noo or Juh-noo or Gee-en-yoo

"As I've taken to calling it"

Heh, there was a guy on our local forums who daily drived FreeBSD 20 years ago. They probably still using it. 20 years later, I still don't know any other people who daily drive a BSD.

I’ve been running OpenBSD since 2.8. I’ve only met one other BSD user in real life and they were baffled to why I’d run it as a workstation OS. Sometimes I am too.

Masochism?

probably

Nah, it's not that bad. You don't need to optimize the living hell out of it and they also have some ready-made binary packages. Plus you can also use flatpak for instance to make your life easier.

Proud Gentoo user for the past 12ish years and this is the first I've heard of "stage 1" and "stage 2". This explains the number for stage 3 I guess lol. Even with stage 3, and having dealt with gentoo (still my daily driver to date), I think I've learned more than I would have with many other distros.

the U is silent

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know a damn thing.

Real

That's fair I think :)

Comparing to Linux BSD is quite niche, and I even met a guy who uses Linux other than me in real life was like in 2011 for the first time. No one knew what BSD was.

Personally I only meddled with NetBSD for really old PCs.

I guess I can count you as the first person I know who uses OpenBSD now.

I don't know shit about Linux. I just know it's fast and not Microsoft.

I haven't used Linux regularly since 2006, which either means I'm out of the loop or an ancient bearer of lost knowledge:

I think it's "G'noo" like "G'day" or "G'night."

Wildebeest

https://youtu.be/lE4UXdJSJM4

Tried LFS first. Stayed with Gentoo after for the maintainability.

/ˈlɪnuks/

G'noo be my distro of choice, m'lady

lmao

Package install doesn't mean you have to read compilation instructions and edit configs. Usually you just install like in any other distro. (Except it takes a bit longer to finish.)

It always surprises me how much the pronunciation of Finnish and Dutch resemble each other.

If you are happy with the distributions you use, there is no need to try Gentoo.

In my opinion, as a Gentoo user for the last 20 years, Gentoo is the most flexible distribution there is. Gentoo can be as stable as Debian or it can be as (or even more) cutting edge as Arch. Or it can be anything in between and you can even mix and match as you like.

The cost you pay for that flexibility is the compile time it takes to build the packages. And Gentoo is even providing you with prebuilt binaries for a very large amount of packages.

le necks

The GNU project has a page on it:

https://www.gnu.org/gnu/pronunciation.html

Under the hood there is this thing in there called "systemd" that does a pretty good job making Linux work, and has made some people happy and some other people unhappy.

Before systemd there was something called "init" or maybe "system v" that wasn't as good at systemd, especially not at restarting things if there was a problem, but it was real fast and less complicated.

This is not part of the Linux kernel though, i have no idea how that works.

Can i be dewey, but with the glasses?

First you get a file(kernel source), then use another file to change the file, then you have a kernel, but the kernel(file) in the the file system, then use a magic boot file to run the file. That's basically it?

except it's derived from Linus's name, which in finnish is pronounced as Lee-noos, so technically it should be Lee-noox.

In reality tho? Nobody cares

It’s monkeys all the way down

Communist nerds decided that computer programs should be free, so they made free computer programs for you. It's better than corpo slop because all the most passionate nerds are sharing their code with each other, and judging every other nerd's code.

I think most of the hate came from logging and that it went binary instead of just another file

Say what? I used it last week to check on a secondary NIC. I am also extremely old... Almost as old as Linus.

It’s pronounced like Liminiux. Lominoliux is also acceptable.

This and some certification guide for sles or rhel (their documentation in general is very good and thorough).

I have somewhat similar experience (with far more recent kernels tho, 2.6 and newer) gentoo has some gentoo specific things, it won't really teach you a lot when you have a certain level of knowledge, and how most parts interface with each other. It's a fun exercise if you have time.

Most of the hate came from people that don't even read logs nor know what they talk about. You can read journal with strings from binutils, you can forward to syslog server and store it in whatever format you prefer, you can do a lot of things with journal tbh. (Journalctl is horribly slow, that's true)

24 years exclusively running it.

Short answer: magic.

Long answer: a stressful full week trying to get everything right, followed by a long, blissful period forgetting how hard it was to get it up and running like magic.

Two years and I'm still not completely sure how to correctly remove stuff from arch haha

i use freebsd on my desktop and server. it's pretty good. linux emulation is also capable so everything just runs!

hardware compat isn't as great tho. my laptop randomly stutters with freebsd so i use linux instead

Windows doesn't work!

Close—a few other people use a different init system to be extra niche. There are tens of us! Tens!

🙋‍♂️: "How does Linux work?"

👨‍💻: "...does it?"