The list of old white dudes with too much power that need to hurry up and die is too long

With Hegseth also announcing that they’re purging people with actual experience in order to replace them with zealots from evangelical “universities”, it’s like the USA is run by the Bluth family from Arrested Development

It's certainly artificial enough.

Not advocating for AI medical care, but just to shed light on why so many people use it.

Medical gaslighting is a serious issue especially if you're either young, female, a PoC, have chronic illness, LGBTQ, struggling with addiction, a non-native speaker, etc.

I'm speaking as someone who has been denied care by doctors for an issue that would have killed me if I had not insisted on it and looked up the symptoms myself. Doctors are human, and humans have all sorts of implicit biases even if they're not straight up racist or sexist. I've had a nurse get upset at me and 'accidentally' jab me really hard after asking for accomodations for an injection due to chronic pain.

There is a massive gap in healthcare that millions of people are slipping through. Googling symptoms is not easy when you have a dozen things going on, and for diseased with a wide range of presentations. The reason why people are using AI in the place of medical care, is in large due to the lack of universal healthcare in the US, the prevalence of medical gaslighting, the global rise of chronic illness and types of cancer in progressively younger people, the rise in awareness of mental health issues, etc.

If you're wondering why older people are even more susceptible to this, it's in part because doctors used to be even more prejudiced, even more illnesses went undiagnosed, old people simply accumulate more health issues over time, and many are finding solace in a tool that was able to diagnose them in 30 seconds when it may have taken them decades of suffering before a doctor even gave a shit.

I'm not saying that AI in medicine is a suitable replacement for a real doctor. But it gives patients more agency that is frequently taken away by doctors who do not treat them as a reliable witness to their own body and denies that their symptoms are real. If you have not had this happen to you yet, good for you. Once you do, you can never go back to looking at doctors the same way again and take their word at face value.

Yeah but doubtless they're committing more than "light" treason.

I mean what's the diagnose AI gives for brain worms? "Should become secretary of health"?

Your argument would be good, if LLMs got it right. But they will just as happily inform you that drinking your own urine is good for you, if you ask them in the right way. A doctor will always tell you no. An LLM will inform you about the dangers of vaccines and how there are many sources that say they give you autism, whereas a doctor won't.

Getting validation from the lying machine is not a way to do healthcare. The LLM confirming that you have some condition will not change anything, just like me and my forum buddies all self-diagnosing autism, and ADD doesn't actually help and actually causes a lot of harm.

To add to your points, LLMs are also not free of biases that the poster above and others have to deal with. The same medical biases are more than likely part of the training data used to develop these LLM. Medical biases are just now being fully understood so that data is no where near as prevalent as the sea of historical biased data.

Yes... let's take an already not great medical system, and objectively make it worse... oh wait you're already doing that you fucking bag of hammers.

That depends how you phrase the question. AI has a tendency to affirm whatever you ask it, so if the question is leading towards a positive answer AI will probably agree with it.

Why doesn't he just become an Idealist, listen to Spirit Science, and insist reality isn't real? Works for the New Agers.

Oh god, is he really?

GPT, Claude etc yes, they will tell you whatever you want to hear.

But custom trained models tailored to the healthcare industry could be vastly different.

I’m so upset that I can’t do my rfk impression through text. I’m getting really good at it.

rfk jr, always had an obssesion with roadkill, and parasites even in his youth, he was never a normal child.

hes also purging 20% of the top brass of the military, for Putins benefit.

People falling for the hype fundamentally fail to understand that even the very best LLM is still subject to "garbage in, garbage out."

At this point it's just the brainworm talking

RFK is a perfect representation of all conservatives' thoughts on science and medicine. They are so deeply, profoundly stupid.

I hope RFK is still their favorite medicine man when the next pandemic hits. He'll guide them all into the light.

Somehow everything the US does is in Putins benefit.

• Pressuring Ukraine and stopping weapon deliveries? check (I would find it fucking funny that Trump practically begged Ukraine to stop hitting russian oil refineries and blaming them for the high diesel price if it weren't that aggravating. No, i don't think they will do that - attack cadence was about one refinery hit every 3 days since the start of the year, and that will get worse, not better. Russians are gonna start driving with moonshine instead of fuel soon, because at least they can make moonshine themselves)
• pushing the oil price into the stratosphere and removing sanctions on russian oil to make Putin profit from the oil he can normally only sell at steep discounts? check
• working together in meddling in Brazil to get Bolsonaro's son elected? check
• destabilizing NATO? check

Edit: I forgot!

• wasting tons of PAC3 interceptors on cheap drones to make sure Ukraine can't buy any? check

Edit 2: The news are giving me even more points to add!

• The US cutting out large european NATO allies out of a conference in fucking Poland

Hey! that's what the worm said... shortly before starving to death.

do you think that an LLM trained by the same doctors is going to do any better? and that assumes the doctors doing the training are... you know... actually doctors, and actually not biased by politics.

Fuckin king of brain worms.

Oh so the same ones an everyday joe would have access too, got it

"thinks" is not a correct word to describe this. There must be more precise word to describe nonsense that some people are telling, "thinking" must include "basic facts, connection between them, logical conclusion, ..."

In my first language, we often use a word that more precisely translates to "believe" for situations like that.

Yes, not I think that "believe" is a right word.

Also, annoyingly, most people are absolutely shit at identifying bias, on both sides of the argument.

Personal example: when I went to the doctor with a painful lower back, and a weirdly pulling muscle above my ass, he said it was very likely due to my weight.

Well, that was obviously fucking bullshit weight bias, and he wasn't taking me seriously because I'm a woman. Besides, I have PCOS, so I can't help it.

Except when I lost the weight, the pain went away. And so did the sore knees, and the shortness of breath I didn't even notice I had. And the PCOS complaints got much better. So... Yeah, it wasn't a biased doctor, the guy was entirely correct, I just didn't like the answer.

And at other times, medical science is just straight up wrong, and we found out after it improved. I had some amazing semi-permanent birth control implants, that unfortunately turned out to occasionally rip your insides to shreds. Whoops. So I got them removed, which sucked ass. Was that bias? Or just medical science advancing?

Haha! Not today, Onion. Not falling for this one.

*Looks at community..
Oh, come on!

...yeah looking at some of the new nurses and doctors who are using AI to limp their way through school, AI has already begun to "free us from the tyranny of facts" by giving us a new generation of idiots who have outsourced the act of thinking to the spellchecker-on-meth running on their phone.

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The future of healthcare isn't looking great.

Telling a conservative they're incorrect is oppression to them.

Any sentence that includes the phrase, "RFK Rr. thinks..." is just fundamentally wrong. At best, it should be "RFK Jr. imagines..." __

I was in a coffee shop the other day, and this group of youngins' were doing their homework, maybe 13-14 years old.

This girl was begging his friend to let him borrow his internet for ChatGPT because she didn't want to look for the answer in her notes. It's gonna wreck havoc on every generations and the younger ones will be royally fucked.

His friend was pushing back saying that LLMs waste electricity and water, and that the answer was in fact, in her notes.

So there is hope at least.

Brain worm says what?

Coincidentally just a few posts above this one in my feed: Online pee drinking communities are huge fans of getting chatbots to tell them that pee drinking is healthy

https://a.lemmy.world/lemmy.world/post/52572821

Literally a Sophon (from Three Body Problem): actively derailing our science and consequently instilling distrust in the entire process. And ai wouldn't be surprised if some former scientists have become so existentially disillusioned that they decided to off themselves

It isn't a word, but "has the delusional belief" would be correct, in my opinion.

Can you call what happens in what the worm left on his plate thinking?

I don’t want to be free from “medical facts”

He's already been "free" from the tyranny of reality for some time...

I mean not much, most of the time in trying to ignore this ignorant fuck, it's not like there any food in here

Sounds like the term they came up with to defend minority rule in the Senate: "Tyranny of the majority."

Free us from the tyranny of medical facts and expertise by killing us.

Yup.

That's viable.

What's up with drinking pee? Uhh... asking for a friend.

Well, I've heard that in Germany there are piss goblins that wait at music festival bathrooms trying to get high off of whatever drugs are excreted through urine.

But this sounds like some sort of pseudo health benefit they're after.

RFK Jr. keeps teaching me that stupidity levels have no floor.

These guys are at odds with fucking reality. Good news bro, there's one way to "free yourself" from this pesky thing.

Has anyone asked him if he knows where AI gets its information.

Apparently it's a miracle cure that big pharma doesn't want you to know about!