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Whats the word for the concept of something being already the case or true at the time?
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cheese_greater lemmy.world cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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Contemporaneous(ly) or something?

Or using then-{descriptor}

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tquid sh.itjust.works tquid@sh.itjust.works
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A little tough to give a fully general template here, but my first instinct is to add "as was then the case" somewhere.

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Ephera lemmy.ml Ephera@lemmy.ml
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Contemporaneous

"Contemporary" is a bit simpler. 😅

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cheese_greater lemmy.world cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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A little tough to give a fully general template here, but my first instinct is to add "as was then the case" somewhere.

Yeah, I always seem to want one pithy word haha, its not always or even often meant to be

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cheese_greater lemmy.world cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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Contemporaneous "Contemporary" is a bit simpler. 😅

I feel like that one wouldnt really fit exactly, but I couldnt put to words why that is. I guess I'll have to see when the context calls for it someday

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Hamartiogonic sopuli.xyz Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz
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contemporaneous = existing, occurring, or originating during the same time.
social and political events that were contemporaneous with each other

contemporary = marked by characteristics of the present period
The story is old, but has importance to contemporary audiences.

current = occurring in or existing at the present time, presently elapsing, generally accepted, used, practiced, or prevalent at the moment
current needs, current ideas about education

Source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/

I get the feeling that current might be the word you’re looking for.

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cheese_greater lemmy.world cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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contemporaneous = existing, occurring, or originating during the same time. social and political events that were contemporaneous with each other contemporary = marked by characteristics of the present period The story is old, but has importance to contemporary audiences. current = occurring in or existing at the present time, presently elapsing, generally accepted, used, practiced, or prevalen...

I honestly get the sense that "as was then the case" might be the phrase without a word if its not contemporaneous

Thank you tho

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Hamartiogonic sopuli.xyz Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz
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I honestly get the sense that "as was then the case" might be the phrase without a word if its not contemporaneous Thank you tho

Ok, so something not necessarily tied to the present time?

Something like: “The ancient Egyptians used copper chisels, as that was the best metal available at the time.” In that sense, you could say that those two things were indeed contemporaneous, because they occurred at the same time with one another.

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cheese_greater lemmy.world cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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Ok, so something not necessarily tied to the present time? Something like: “The ancient Egyptians used copper chisels, as that was the best metal available at the time.” In that sense, you could say that those two things were indeed contemporaneous, because they occurred at the same time with one another.
  • was the best contemporaneous metal
  • was the best metal contenporaneously

Maybe one of those, contemporaneously seems to encapsulate "best metal as/per what was currently/then available"

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Hamartiogonic sopuli.xyz Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz
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was the best contemporaneous metal was the best metal contenporaneously Maybe one of those, contemporaneously seems to encapsulate "best metal as/per what was currently/then available"

I was just reading this article when I stumbled upon this quote:

The most severely affected areas were in western and southern Ireland—where the Irish language was dominant—hence, in Irish, the period was contemporaneously known as an Drochshaol.

So, in the 1840s and 1850s, there was a famine in Ireland, and locals at the time called Drochshaol. Those two things happened long ago, so they aren't contemporary any more. However, they happened at the same time with one another, so that's why they are contemporaneous. That's an odd word you don't see every day, but here it's entirely justified.

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cheese_greater lemmy.world cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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I was just reading this article when I stumbled upon this quote: The most severely affected areas were in western and southern Ireland—where the Irish language was dominant—hence, in Irish, the period was contemporaneously known as an Drochshaol. So, in the 1840s and 1850s, there was a famine in Ireland, and locals at the time called Drochshaol. Those two things happened long ago, so they aren'...

Good find, it sounds very much like contemporaneously is at least a not improper choice

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