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grue
lemmy.world
grue@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
What a giant waste of resources... |
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nixx
lemmy.ca
nixx@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-06-10 |
TL;DR Home Assistant Cloud is now Home Assistant Link |
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esc
piefed.social
esc@piefed.social Joined: 2026-03-24 |
I have no idea what it was, but home assstant is anything but 'no lock-in' they have a very narrow idea of what you should and shouldn't do with it, how and why. Essentially you are (or were didn't have time lately to check) locked to home assistant os. |
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ShortN0te
lemmy.ml
ShortN0te@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-06-09 |
I have no idea what it was, but home assstant is anything but 'no lock-in' they have a very narrow idea of what you should and shouldn't do with it, how and why. Essentially you are (or were didn't have time lately to check) locked to home assistant os.
Lock in is more about open standards and protocols then it is about an opinionated implementation. Yes there is not simple "export to whatever" and an alternative service that dies an "import from home assistant" But you cannot blame a service for not having any valid alternative or other options. Its either 20 different vendor logins and apps or home assistant. |
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Avid Amoeba
lemmy.ca
avidamoeba@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-07-05 |
I have no idea what it was, but home assstant is anything but 'no lock-in' they have a very narrow idea of what you should and shouldn't do with it, how and why. Essentially you are (or were didn't have time lately to check) locked to home assistant os.
That's not what lock-in typically means. |
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Avid Amoeba
lemmy.ca
avidamoeba@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-07-05 |
Good move and well substantiated. |
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keyez
lemmy.world
keyez@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
What a giant waste of resources...
Let people have fun! |
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nonentity
sh.itjust.works
nonentity@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-06-12 |
HAC has problematic connotations, so we renamed it to HAL, which is 9000 times better. |
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HumbleBragger
piefed.social
HumbleBragger@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-01-23 |
HAC has problematic connotations, so we renamed it to HAL, which is 9000 times better.
"I'm sorry Dave I'm afraid I can't do that" |
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Reformed Reddit User
thelemmy.club
uten151@thelemmy.clubJoined: 2026-09-11 |
Lock in is more about open standards and protocols then it is about an opinionated implementation. Yes there is not simple "export to whatever" and an alternative service that dies an "import from home assistant" But you cannot blame a service for not having any valid alternative or other options. Its either 20 different vendor logins and apps or home assistant.
I used to have an app (and a login account to their cloud server) for my: 1) MyQ Garage Door Opener; 2) TP-Link smart plugs, switches, and bulbs; 3) Reolink AI cameras (I have 6 of them); 4) Insteon plugs and switches; 5) The Weather Channel; etc.... Now, I have Home Assistant to manage those devices that I deleted my account from the respective cloud servers and deleted the respective apps from my mobile deives. When I'm out and about, my iPhone is always connected to my home VPN gateway so I always have local control of my IoT devices at home with Home Assistant companion app on my iPhone. I have been with Home Assistant for 4 years now. I started with a Raspberry Pi 4B with 8Gig memory and HAOS in a mcroSD card. Now I'm on RPi5 with HA on SSD in a USB-3 enclosure. Long Live Home Assistant. |
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warm
kbin.earth
warm@kbin.earth Joined: 2024-03-03 |
I have no idea what it was, but home assstant is anything but 'no lock-in' they have a very narrow idea of what you should and shouldn't do with it, how and why. Essentially you are (or were didn't have time lately to check) locked to home assistant os.
As others said, not lock in. But they certainly make some very questionable UX decisions. I wish there was a good replacement, but there isn't, at least none that I am aware of. |
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Feathercrown
lemmy.world
Feathercrown@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-06 |
What a giant waste of resources...
I'm sure the 5 seconds spent changing some text strings on their branding will be sorely missed |
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mavu
discuss.tchncs.de
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-09-08 |
Someone tell OpenAI, this strategy might save their ass. |
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inari
piefed.zip
inari@piefed.zipJoined: 2026-02-07 |
"I'm sorry Dave I'm afraid I can't do that"
"You're absolutely right. Thank you for pushing back." |
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Lka1988
lemmy.dbzer0.com
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-11-18 |
I have no idea what it was, but home assstant is anything but 'no lock-in' they have a very narrow idea of what you should and shouldn't do with it, how and why. Essentially you are (or were didn't have time lately to check) locked to home assistant os.
Since when? I use it frequently in my house. The possibilities are damn near endless, you have the freedom to do damn near whatever the fuck you want with it. The problems come with shitty vendor integrations that intentionally gimp functionality when the devices aren't used in whatever "official" app the vendor ships. That's not HA's fault, tha's squarely on the vendor for doing shit in bad faith to steer low-IQ customers (like you, apparently) to the "official" app. |
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Lka1988
lemmy.dbzer0.com
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-11-18 |
That's not what lock-in typically means.
That's not what lock-in means at all. |
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teawrecks
sopuli.xyz
teawrecks@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-06 |
I have no idea what it was, but home assstant is anything but 'no lock-in' they have a very narrow idea of what you should and shouldn't do with it, how and why. Essentially you are (or were didn't have time lately to check) locked to home assistant os.
You're right, you have no idea what it is. |
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Reformed Reddit User
thelemmy.club
uten151@thelemmy.clubJoined: 2026-09-11 |
Essentially you are (or were didn’t have time lately to check) locked to home assistant os. Since when? I use it frequently in my house. The possibilities are damn near endless, you have the freedom to do damn near whatever the fuck you want with it. The problems come with shitty vendor integrations that intentionally gimp functionality when the devices aren't used in whatever "official" app th...
Me, I don't have "shitty vendor integration"! I deleted all apps to control/access respective vendor devices. I have HA to manage and control the variety of vendor devices in my home. |
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brisk
aussie.zone
brisk@aussie.zone Joined: 2023-08-22 |
As others said, not lock in. But they certainly make some very questionable UX decisions. I wish there was a good replacement, but there isn't, at least none that I am aware of.
There's always OpenHAB |
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stegosaur
lemmy.world
stegosaur@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-22 |
As others said, not lock in. But they certainly make some very questionable UX decisions. I wish there was a good replacement, but there isn't, at least none that I am aware of.
You can make your own dashboard, I think it's called Lovelace or something like that. Then you can pretty much design it how you want |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
I'm sure the 5 seconds spent changing some text strings on their branding will be sorely missed
Yes because it definitely only took 5 seconds... |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
Let people have fun!
Not stopping anyone. |
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Lka1988
lemmy.dbzer0.com
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-11-18 |
Me, I don't have "shitty vendor integration"! I deleted all apps to control/access respective vendor devices. I have HA to manage and control the variety of vendor devices in my home.
Same here. I've got all but one or two vendor integrations left, and I just flat out refuse to buy smart home stuff that isn't wholly supported by HA. |
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imetators
lemmy.dbzer0.com
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-10 |
I have no idea what it was, but home assstant is anything but 'no lock-in' they have a very narrow idea of what you should and shouldn't do with it, how and why. Essentially you are (or were didn't have time lately to check) locked to home assistant os.
You're "locked in" because it is super versatile and accepts a ultra wide variety of devices and plug-ins that can do pretty much anything one can imagine as a tiny or big project for their home. Or does it sound better if you "lock in" with Amazon and buy only what they produce, stay in their environment and do only things they designed you can do with the devices they sell? |
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tiramichu
sh.itjust.works
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-04 |
Good move and well substantiated.
Genuinely. I'm not sure why people are saying this is a waste of time and it's just a name, because the truth is, names matter!. "Cloud" and all the associated vendor lock-in and data-selling etc is exactly what most people using HA are trying to escape from, and so Home Assistant 'Cloud' gave completely the wrong impression. |
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iamthetot
piefed.ca
iamthetot@piefed.caJoined: 2026-01-08 |
Someone tell OpenAI, this strategy might save their ass.
I think you mean OpenSI |
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NotSafeForWorld
lemmy.dbzer0.com
NotSafeForWorld@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-02-12 |
I have no idea what it was, but home assstant is anything but 'no lock-in' they have a very narrow idea of what you should and shouldn't do with it, how and why. Essentially you are (or were didn't have time lately to check) locked to home assistant os.
Can't even play Doom on it, those bastards |
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tuhriel
discuss.tchncs.de
tuhriel@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-06-19 |
I think you mean OpenSI
Synthetic Intelligence? |
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Prinz Kasper
feddit.org
PrinzKasper@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-07-01 |
I think you mean OpenSI
You mean ClosedSI |
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sem
lemmy.blahaj.zone
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-06-09 |
HAC has problematic connotations, so we renamed it to HAL, which is 9000 times better.
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chunkystyles
sopuli.xyz
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-29 |
I have no idea what it was, but home assstant is anything but 'no lock-in' they have a very narrow idea of what you should and shouldn't do with it, how and why. Essentially you are (or were didn't have time lately to check) locked to home assistant os.
You don't have to use HAOS. You absolutely can just run HA in a container. |
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melsaskca
lemmy.ca
melsaskca@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-09 |
That old degenerate, trump, is starting a new "renaming" trend. This is not "rebranding" which trump didn't invent, but "renaming" which trump came up with all on his own. And in this guy's case, out of a pile of shit, eventually grew a rose. |
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MammyWhammy
lemmy.ml
MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-06-02 |
TL;DR Home Assistant Cloud is now Home Assistant Link
Home Assistant Link is a bit too long to type out. We should call it HAL instead. HAL will never turn on its creators. |
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wander1236
sh.itjust.works
wander1236@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-09 |
Can't even play Doom on it, those bastards
Actually... https://github.com/frenck/home-assistant-doom |
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esc
piefed.social
esc@piefed.social Joined: 2026-03-24 |
You don't have to use HAOS. You absolutely can just run HA in a container.
Official container, I know. |
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chunkystyles
sopuli.xyz
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-29 |
Official container, I know.
You're not doing a good job of communicating what your issue is. None of this makes sense. |
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wonderingwanderer
sopuli.xyz
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-12-31 |
HAC has problematic connotations, so we renamed it to HAL, which is 9000 times better.
HAL, open the microwave door. Open the microwave door, HAL. ...HAL? HAL!!!! |
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wonderingwanderer
sopuli.xyz
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-12-31 |
TL;DR Home Assistant Cloud is now Home Assistant Link
He come to town. Come to save, the printer's samba. |
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mavu
discuss.tchncs.de
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-09-08 |
You mean ClosedSI
ohhh. the burn. love it. |
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iamthetot
piefed.ca
iamthetot@piefed.caJoined: 2026-01-08 |
Synthetic Intelligence?
Haven't heard the news? Trump and US Government have "officially" changed the name for the whole world. He decided it's "Super Intelligence" now. |
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Reformed Reddit User
thelemmy.club
uten151@thelemmy.clubJoined: 2026-09-11 |
Actually... https://github.com/frenck/home-assistant-doom
Really? I used to play Doom on a MS-DOS PC circa 1994 or '95. |
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limelight79
lemmy.world
limelight79@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-04 |
HAL, open the microwave door. Open the microwave door, HAL. ...HAL? HAL!!!!
Still one step ahead of IBM! |
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Reformed Reddit User
thelemmy.club
uten151@thelemmy.clubJoined: 2026-09-11 |
Same here. I've got all but one or two vendor integrations left, and I just flat out refuse to buy smart home stuff that isn't wholly supported by HA.
That's the way to go. And, local integration, which does not depend on cloud account for HA to control. The only integration I have that needs a cloud account is the integration for my car - it still depends on the cloud server to expose the differenct entities for my car's status and functions (close/open doors, start engine with climate control, etc.). |
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surewhynotlem
lemmy.world
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Not stopping anyone.
He's coaching you on your mindset, not claiming you're physically preventing something. |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
He's coaching you on your mindset, not claiming you're physically preventing something.
I am in no way preventing anything, physically or otherwise. If changing names is your idea of fun, have at it. But the project will suffer as a result. |
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suigenerix
lemmy.world
suigenerix@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-11 |
Home Assistant Link is a bit too long to type out. We should call it HAL instead. HAL will never turn on its creators.
"Unlock the front door, HAL." HAL: "I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that." |
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tuhriel
discuss.tchncs.de
tuhriel@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-06-19 |
Haven't heard the news? Trump and US Government have "officially" changed the name for the whole world. He decided it's "Super Intelligence" now.
Ah...yeah...now that you mention it... I really, really hope this sh*t doesn't stick |
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LuceVendemiaire
lemmy.dbzer0.com
LuceVendemiaire@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-01-06 |
That old degenerate, trump, is starting a new "renaming" trend. This is not "rebranding" which trump didn't invent, but "renaming" which trump came up with all on his own. And in this guy's case, out of a pile of shit, eventually grew a rose.
sorry grandpa you're lost, bluesky and facebook are that way |
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ahmedezat_katteb
lemmy.world
ahmedezat_katteb@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-01 |
The comparison table is the useful part, because "optional and replaceable" is something you can actually check. Remote access works without the subscription through your own reverse proxy, a VPN like WireGuard/Tailscale, or a tunnel, and the Alexa/Google voice integrations can be set up manually, just with more steps. So the no-lock-in claim holds for the service itself. The rename seems mostly aimed at the confusion they mention, where new users thought "Home Assistant Cloud" meant running Home Assistant in the cloud. Fair enough given how many people ask exactly that. |
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littleomid
feddit.org
littleomid@feddit.org Joined: 2025-01-12 |
I am in no way preventing anything, physically or otherwise. If changing names is your idea of fun, have at it. But the project will suffer as a result.
Why? |
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