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YragNitram1956 feddit.uk YragNitram1956@feddit.uk
Joined: 2026-09-10
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“Consider if you go the New Testament for instruction on how to live, you are told to give away all your possessions, make no plans for the future, reject your family if they disagree with you, and stay celibate if you can (see respectively Matthew 19.21, Matthew 6.25, Matthew 12.48, and 1 Corinthians 7). This is the outlook of people who sincerely believed that the Messiah was going to return next week or next month, anyway very soon. It is an unlivable ethic, and when after several centuries the Second Coming had still not materialised and hope of it had been deferred sine die, more was needed in the way of ethics. Where did it come from? From Greek philosophy – not least from the Stoics – and from the Roman Republican virtues of probity, honour, duty, restraint, respect, friendship and generosity that Cicero, Seneca, Virgil, Horace, and countless others wrote about and enjoined ceaselessly. ‘Christian values’ are largely Greek and Roman secular values. So Christianity is not even Christianity. It is more correct to say that ‘we are Greeks and Romans’ and meant that we are defined by the following words – and therefore concepts – of classical Greek and Latin origin: democracy, liberalism, values, history, morality, comedy, tragedy, literature, music, academy, alphabet, memory, politics, ethics, populace, geography, energy, exploration, hegemony, theory, mathematics, science, theatre, medicine, gymnasium, climate, clone, bureaucracy, dialect, analogy, psychology, method, nostalgia, organ, encyclopaedia, education, paradox, empiricism, polemic, rhetoric, dinosaur, telescope, system, school, trophy, type, fantasy, photography…take almost any word denoting political and social institutions, ideas, learning, science and technology, medicine, and culture, and it derives from the language – and therefore the ideas and the history – of ancient Greece and Rome.

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one_old_coder piefed.social one_old_coder@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-08
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photography…take

You forgot a space here. And a hundred newline characters.

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Hermit_Lailoken lemmy.world Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-11
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No, they persecuted and ethnically cleansed the original Christians. Then removed books from "cannon" for their nefarious needs.

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YragNitram1956 feddit.uk YragNitram1956@feddit.uk
Joined: 2026-09-10
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No, they persecuted and ethnically cleansed the original Christians. Then removed books from "cannon" for their nefarious needs.

Interesting. Can you elaborate?

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QueenHawlSera piefed.social QueenHawlSera@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-07-14
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No, they persecuted and ethnically cleansed the original Christians. Then removed books from "cannon" for their nefarious needs.

Please elaborate

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farmgineer nord.pub farmgineer@nord.pub
Joined: 2026-04-25
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Put Jesus, a catholic, an eastern orthodox, an LDS member, and a protestant in a room and let no one out until they agree.

For bonus points, add a Marcionite.

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