Bos has two daughters, with a third due in January. At the grocery store, five items cost as much as a full cart once did. And on Wednesday, Bos and nearly 1,400 other people were laid off from their jobs at what had been the Navistar truck factory in southwestern Ohio.

Asked how many times he had voted for Trump, Bos held up three tattooed fingers. But he said he’s done with the president.

Hahahaha. Love knowing so many of these people will be homeless. Don't expect me to give you a dollar - gotta pull yourself up!

Hatred is a funny thing. You eventually adopt the mentality of those you hate.

"This year’s election is a test for the working-class coalition that lifted Trump into the White House and gave majorities to Republicans in the House and Senate" - the under-educated coalition? This is the only reason working class would vote Republican. Oh, hold on, bigotry too.

I don't think so. That's their framing. If you are a hateful POS don't be surprised when people hate you back. I look forward to their suffering for their choices.

You can tell they were all Trump voters because they committed the sin of living in Ohio, a state where 43% of people voted Harris!

You look forward to their suffering...

You can tell they are Trump voters cause the idiot said he voted for Trump three times? These people are just fucking idiots they don't get any sympathy from me.

My aunt is posting on Facebook to Mike Johnson to reconsider the social security cuts. Get your lazy ass to work and stop asking for handouts.

Oh yes i do. I want mass suffering.

Oh dang, everyone fired was 1400 clones of that guy? My bad, I didn’t realize.

Misinformation too.

Remember, none of us, even those of us on Lemmy, have ingested the same news and headlines.

Sure, there are shared overlaps in forums like these or among those who, maybe, only listen to Tucker Carlson and branch out from there for their worldly info.

Never assume other people know what you know. Let go of the belief that all the egregious shit you’ve read on Trump has been read by everyone, because it hasn’t.

There is no central news. No shared headlines.

Just TikTok, social media & its algorithms, and whatever podcasts/YouTube/NewsChannel we sporadically choose to consume on a level that most often resembles TikTok consumption.

Showing kindness to those who don't share their kindness with others will have you overworking for people who don't care. They are, in a word, toxic. Toxic people don't deserve the effort and grace given to them - they are to be met with the animosity they revel in showing others.

Paradox of tolerance

I feel sorry for the children - but only the children

My favorite part is how he was the only one who could prevent new wars. And stop existing wars. It's pretty cool how now there's no more wars. Amerika is finely great again.

I’ll be honest, at first I read it as “I Got Punched In Ohio” and before reading the rest was wondering why that’s a news headline. Made me laugh when I realized.

Needs to mention excuse Navistar gave for layoffs.

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." - Lyndon B. Johnson

We need an easily-digestible highlight reel of Trump crimes to show people.

Oooooof Cuck porn

Yes, they're toxic and hateful, yes they don't care, yes they don't deserve it, but I would argue empathy and kindness is what sets us apart from them. I still want to improve the lives of everyone, whether they appreciate it or not. But our benevolence shouldn't extend to allowing Republicans to remain in power...

So we went from "enjoying the suffering of others" to "kindness is conditional"...

That's psychotic.

They only learn when they suffer. (When it finally affects them)

I haven't seen evidence they learn regardless.

Well thats a valid point lol. I mean I've read stories that my grandbaby is gay and so now i realize they are ok. Same thing.

Look, I’m not going to be nice to the people who want me and my friends dead, alright?

No one's asking you to? The problem is assuming that all 1400 people laid off are Trump supporters and wishing them ill by association. "All farmers deserve suffering because 80% off farmers are Trump supporters!"

No what I’m saying is kindness is, indeed, conditional.

I'm sure for you it is.

Agree with you. I have plenty of empathy for them, I know they have none for me, but that quite literally is the difference. I won't let go of that for hatred.

The President of Peace, winner of the inaugural FIFA Peace Prize. That's serious, super serious.

He's brought peace to the middle east at least a couple dozen times.

Nobody in this thread says "all farmers" or implied all 1400 people deserve it. You're being disengenous and arguing in bad faith.

The way to improve the lives of the hateful is to have them live the life they demand of others. It is speaking their language. If they don't want to be treated as such they can change too. If or when they change I will be there to comfort and console them, to help them heal from their hate, but I am under no delusion that they will change from others being too nice to them. COVID shook that naivety from me.

I always think LBJ is the best anti-hero we've seen. He's crass and rambunctious but willing to sacrifice his own career to uplift a cause for the greater good. While most politicians are afraid to alienate a huge portion of voters, he's willing to alienate the Southern voters to legislate the Civil Rights Act because who cares about racists.

false dichotomy. the opposite of wishing someone ill is not tolerance.

showing empathy to people who don't share your empathy is toxic. it's toxic empathy is what it is.

…some people make horseshoe theory look real attractive. but really it's just wilhoit's law in action. the only seemingly workable politics left is conservativism.

Yes. It is. I just explained it in my last comment. Try to keep up.

Trump could do what the Democrats never could, put a Democrat from Texas in the US Senate.

Well then the rally should have an even higher turn out then.

Tolerance means letting someone make their own choices, it doesn't cover what comes next. It's a disservice to tolerance to conflate the two.

It's existed since he first announced running in like 2015. They do know about it and they don't care.

Wait the Democrat won?

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/could#cald4-1-4

Don't forget Ukraine! He made so much peace in Ukraine. Tremendous peace!

He was fine with this happening to families other than his. I hope it gets worse for him.

You used the whole thing in past tense, as if the event already happened, not future tense.

What you wanted to say was "Trump did what the Democrats never could; make it very likely for a Texas Democrat to be elected to the Senate."

By saying "put" you implied the event already came to pass.

English is a dumb language though so understandable for your mistake to be made.

Edit: correction; I missed the first "could" and only saw the second "could". My mistake - the sentence is grammatically correct. Though this is a fine example of why English is a dumb language. Still not as bad as Finnish I'd say (sorry Finns the country and everything is great to me but we gotta fix the language, too many exceptions like English except unlike English you just get misunderstood since so few letters of the alphabet are typically used to make words. Old Finnish had more order than Modern Finnish).

I see a lot of people like this being treated with total contempt, which is your right, but a few things to keep in mind.

1. Please remember 70% of voters are not Democrat. Democrats are 30% of voters, Republicans 30% of voters, and Independents are 40% of voters. Insulting and celebrating the hardships and deaths of those who don't agree with you is a very bad look, and won't convince anyone that your minority party (Democrats) is the cure.

2. Very few people are actually informed. Their entire waking life can be their job and children. Spare time is spent in non-political activities, like watching a goofy show. Many people are juggling multiple jobs and don't have a lot of spare time to research politics or history. Maybe zero time. So they go with their gut. (this is often wrong, but remains true). Make it easy for their gut.

3. Keep in mind that you require independent voters to win every federal election. Would you like to win an election? Then you better get some Independent votes. Insulting and humiliating others does absolutely nothing for you. You could be totally right, your anger might be well founded, but it doesn't help you.

4. Do you agree that there are a significant amount of stupid people? These stupid people don't like being called stupid, and take this all very seriously. You want the votes of stupid people. Would you like stupid people to vote for your party? Spending your days mocking and insulting anonymously can be a lot of fun, but it's no way to WIN.

This is a big election upcoming, go out and vote! ... and if you're up for it, maybe try to be kind to a voter or three. It can only help your cause. Contempt hurts you.

Same, they don’t learn any other way.

The problem is that explaining just how bad even his first term was already takes nearly twelve hours. And his second term has been much, much worse.