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58008 lemmy.world ![]() 58008@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-04 |
Reading Barry Lopez's book "Of Wolves and Men":
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Mulligrubs lemmy.world ![]() Mulligrubs@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-11 |
I think he got his fiction mixed up with reality, wolves don't live very long; this would be half of their lifespan. They could very well be leaving an area alone because there's less of their favorite prey there. How would you determine their motivation? |
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Stolas lemmy.ca ![]() Stolas@lemmy.ca Joined: 2026-08-27 |
Interesting if true. Really makes me feel the one quote from The Matrix where Agent Smith calls humans a disease for constantly moving to one area, consuming all the resources in said area and moving on. In comparison, animals are so much more considerate. |
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Zwuzelmaus feddit.org Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org Joined: 2024-12-14 |
Has the scientist really asked the wolves about their intentions? :) Or could this be a misinterpretation of some statistics? I have learned in school that predators go for the weakest prey only. So if a herd of deer has already lost a few, then maybe there are no weak ones left in this herd, and the wolves have to suffer hunger for a while, until they find another herd. So, another interpretation could be that the wolves simply remember the fact about the first herd, and avoid it for a while. The outcome would be the same. |
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raman_klogius ani.social raman_klogius@ani.social Joined: 2024-06-22 |
Wolf science needs more scrutiny on its claims, ever since the alpha male paper which did an incredible amount of damage to society. |
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quediuspayu lemmy.dbzer0.com quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-02-06 |
To me it sounds like they moved to richer areas where it was easier to find suitable prey. |
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idiomaddict lemmy.world idiomaddict@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-16 |
Wolf science needs more scrutiny on its claims, ever since the alpha male paper which did an incredible amount of damage to society.
That or we come out with a bunch of fake claims about wolves which would improve society, were they to be applied to people I know, I know, that’s an insult to science, but how cool would it be if Joe Rogan started spreading the idea that the wolves in a pack survive longer when they share resources more evenly? Or that “lone wolves” do best when they’re cordial with nearby packs? Maybe even that packs formed by genetically diverse wolves outperform homogeneous packs, even if the individual wolves are stronger in the less diverse groups? I’m being mostly sarcastic here, because I really do value honest research, but it’s a nice thought. Of course, we already have chimps and bonobos, who are basically ideal proxies for mostly warlike and mostly peaceful humans, respectively, and it hasn’t made us any less violent. |
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FishFace piefed.social FishFace@piefed.social Joined: 2025-10-16 |
Fallow-field farming doesn't seem like a good analogy at all here. Leaving a field fallow allows other things to grow in the field which then provide nutrients for the crop you grow after re-sowing. This is just waiting for the population to recover. That would be more like not harvesting as frequently, rather than not sowing as frequently. |
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Tyrq lemmy.dbzer0.com Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-02-10 |
Wolf science needs more scrutiny on its claims, ever since the alpha male paper which did an incredible amount of damage to society.
Pretty sure idiots were gonna use whatever else enables their idiocy anyway, this was just one of a myriad of ways to flavour said idiocy. Didn't help tho |
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glimse lemmy.world glimse@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
To me it sounds like they moved to richer areas where it was easier to find suitable prey.
Behold, fellow wolves! A deer in the clearing! It has been days since our last meal but we must allow this one to live. |
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58008 lemmy.world ![]() 58008@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-04 |
Wolf science needs more scrutiny on its claims, ever since the alpha male paper which did an incredible amount of damage to society.
This book directly debunks all of that stuff, but I don't know enough to judge the author's other claims. Not sure where to turn, to be honest. I thought I was already doing my due diligence by reading this book 😭 |
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moldy_rice piefed.keyboardvagabond.com ![]() moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com Joined: 2026-08-07 |
Fallow-field farming doesn't seem like a good analogy at all here. Leaving a field fallow allows other things to grow in the field which then provide nutrients for the crop you grow after re-sowing. This is just waiting for the population to recover. That would be more like not harvesting as frequently, rather than not sowing as frequently.
Also it's dumber than crop rotation with nitrogen fixers. And that's dumber than just companion planting deep rooted perennials with poly cultures that include nitrogen fixers. |
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moldy_rice piefed.keyboardvagabond.com ![]() moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com Joined: 2026-08-07 |
Interesting if true. Really makes me feel the one quote from The Matrix where Agent Smith calls humans a disease for constantly moving to one area, consuming all the resources in said area and moving on. In comparison, animals are so much more considerate.
It's the Takers |
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