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dethedrus lemmy.dbzer0.com dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-03-09
#102 · Quote Reply

I read 2nd commandment as second amendment and got very confused for a second. Now to butcher a Star Trek scene, why does god need a Colt?

You can’t butcher a scene from that abomination. Only improve it.

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vaultdweller013 sh.itjust.works vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-08
#103 · Quote Reply

You can’t butcher a scene from that abomination. Only improve it.

Fair enough.

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TheRealKuni piefed.social TheRealKuni@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-07-29
#104 · Quote Reply

Pretty weak deity which can't even forgive the sins they created themselves without all the pageantry. This is why I only worship my TI-83 calculator from middle school. It is capable of completely passive forgiveness, and largely unwilling to resort to damnation under any circumstances.

The explanation I’ve been given is actually kinda cool in a, like, fantasy worldbuilding sort of way. By nature God is perfection, and since Adam and Eve fell short of perfection, mankind is tainted by imperfection. That falling short is sin. (There is some debate about whether God “decides” what is sin, or whether it is some sort of objective nature of God, which I also think is sort of fascinating.) Man needed ways to be absolved from sin to be in communion with God. This largely involved sacrificing animals to cover over sin with blood, and this symbolism is all over the old testament.

Christianity posits that Jesus was both God and Man, combining the two natures. He lived a sinless life, but still faced death (which shouldn’t happen to someone without sin). This causes a sort of divide-by-zero error that cancels out the sin of all who are linked to Jesus through the sacraments (especially baptism and communion). This allows humans to be “in communion with God” without continued animal sacrifice. And now that living a perfect life, which is impossible, is not necessary, Christians should do good things in the world to reflect the grace they’ve been given.

Unfortunately, most Christians know fuck all about their own religion and don’t understand it at a fundamental level, and think it’s their job to go around judging people and telling them to repent.

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Plemp lemmy.world Plemp@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-31
#105 · Quote Reply

Religious BS from Reddit

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dethedrus lemmy.dbzer0.com dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-03-09
#106 · Quote Reply

Fair enough.

It’s cliche about the odd numbered original movies being bad… but holy crap is that one awful.

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lechekaflan lemmy.world lechekaflan@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#107 · Quote Reply

Everytime I see someone's house with so many religious imagery, I think of Carrie White's mother.

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wolframhydroxide sh.itjust.works wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-07-25
#108 · (edited) Quote Reply

Please don't... if it is a religion, it involve irrational beliefs that will be armful at some point. To protect the planet we need to know what is good for it, and be abble to find out that some of our knowledges/beliefs are wrong. To find out we were wrong, we need to be rational ; and that require to reject faith.

So, what about personal philosophy? Do you count "Humanism", or "Earthseed" from Parable of the Sower as religions? No magical thinking, but heavily based in ideas of morality which have no objective truth. There is no definition of "Good" that can ever be objective. You need a philosophical basis, like utilitarianism, for example, to work off of.

There are plenty of people (including many adherents, I think) who'd identify those as religions, but I struggle to comprehend how your claim would apply to them.

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finallymadeanaccount lemmy.world finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-31
#109 · Quote Reply

Jesus returns, looks around at crosses everywhere.

"Fuck me. I'm glad I didn't die accidentally drowning in manure!"

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finallymadeanaccount lemmy.world finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-31
#110 · Quote Reply

Jokes aside, he seems to look like whatever people in the area look like. I suppose it's much easier to worship someone who looks like your own ethnicity.

"CHRIST SMASH! RARRGH!"

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Dæmon S. catodon.rocks dsilverz@catodon.rocks
Joined: 2026-05-13
#111 · Quote Reply

You don’t need a religion to be an environmentalist.

Oftentimes religious beliefs can change someone's worldviews, including but not limited to, environmental awareness. And I bring my own anecdotal example: since I became a syncretic Luciferian then a sudden Lilithian, I became quite eco-centric, as I got to understand Homo sapiens as just one among countless species instead of some "god's exclusive toy" on this Pale Blue Dot. I also started to personally understand LGBTQIA+ values because, thanks to Lilith, I began discovering a part of me I wasn't aware of, my queer me I've since became quite fond of (e.g. polishing my nails and letting them grow as a cisman-presenting person). Those things would be unlikely to happen if I stayed on christianity (yes, I was christian in the far past and I deeply hate having been one) due to christian brainwashing that makes christians to "fear disobeying god" (now I want "god" to go pound sand). There are religions and religions, faiths and faiths. You won't get a coven of Wiccans knocking at your door at Monday (Moon day) 3AM "do you have 5 minutes to hear about our Mother Hekate?", you won't hear Luciferians screaming "Agios Lucifer, He's coming back to reign" inside a bus/subway while you're commuting, you won't see a Thelemite lawmaker trying to shove Liber AL Vel Legis inside kindergarten and schools, you won't see Goetians bringing a Solomon's Magick Circle inside a hospital room to call upon Stolas to cure the patients with his herbal knowledge... Yet atheists tend to put all religious beliefs into the same box as abrahamic religions which have persecuted both you atheists and us pagans, instead of trying to make some rational distinction between different faiths...!memes@lemmy.world

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Agent641 lemmy.world Agent641@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-12
#112 · Quote Reply

also you can build them out of clay. ain't nothing about fired images

Baby I think we got ourselves a business model! Take that, creator of the universe!

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darthelmet lemmy.world darthelmet@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-12
#113 · Quote Reply

When I was on my recent trip to Japan, we visited a few shrines and I found it kind of funny how a lot of them had gift shops selling a bunch of religious themed merch. Then I thought about Christianity and all the Jesus merch.

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BilSabab lemmy.world BilSabab@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
#114 · Quote Reply

in addition to that, these folks also tend to bitch how abstractionism is not a real art because it doesn't show anything.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#115 · Quote Reply

White Jesus from the middle east

a very nordic looking jesus too.

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Son_of_Macha lemmy.cafe Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe
Joined: 2025-05-24
#116 · Quote Reply

The Christian bible says exactly the same thing, Christians just ignore it.

Thy shall not make graven images

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khaleer sopuli.xyz khaleer@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2024-06-20
#117 · Quote Reply

every new one whiter than the previous

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Peacepath lemmy.world peacepath@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-04-21
#118 · Quote Reply

So, what about personal philosophy? Do you count "Humanism", or "Earthseed" from Parable of the Sower as religions? No magical thinking, but heavily based in ideas of morality which have no objective truth. There is no definition of "Good" that can ever be objective. You need a philosophical basis, like utilitarianism, for example, to work off of. There are plenty of people (including many adhe...

A philosophy isn't a religion. You need to think philosophy by yourself, and not just one school of philosophy, since each of them have a point of view that could help you. I also think each of this school can be monstruous and misleading if you follow blindly its principles ; but each may help you to think each situation by yourself more efficiently.

Let's take utilitarianism, maximizing the good. In many situations it applies smoothly. For the trolley track problem an utilitarian easily sacrify the one lonely to save the 5. Yet if you change the problem as: you are in an hospital and 5 patients need a different organ for transplantation ; an healthy universal donor kid is in a room waiting for a minor broken leg ; do you kill the kid to save the 5? Utilitarian principles should still say yes, but you may feel that in that case applying them would be wrong.

Those who would have faith in the utilitarianism, and apply it as a religion, may not see the problem. Of course, some may have both faith and some doubts. But I think they would think better if they think by themselves, using different philosophical principles, and without an authority to share the responsability of their decisions.

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MissJinx lemmy.world MissJinx@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#119 · Quote Reply

The God of the Bible is literally a Monster.

Because the bible is not the word of "god" its just the word os Kings and Popes, very real and not divine men

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EvilHankVenture lemmy.world EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#120 · Quote Reply

The explanation I’ve been given is actually kinda cool in a, like, fantasy worldbuilding sort of way. By nature God is perfection, and since Adam and Eve fell short of perfection, mankind is tainted by imperfection. That falling short is sin. (There is some debate about whether God “decides” what is sin, or whether it is some sort of objective nature of God, which I also think is sort of fascin...

So God created us imperfect then holds us to an impossible standard and is punishing us for not living up to it? Doesn't sound very loving. If he had to do it this way because of his nature then he is not omnipotent.

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TheRealKuni piefed.social TheRealKuni@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-07-29
#121 · Quote Reply

So God created us imperfect then holds us to an impossible standard and is punishing us for not living up to it? Doesn't sound very loving. If he had to do it this way because of his nature then he is not omnipotent.

So God created us imperfect then holds us to an impossible standard and is punishing us for not living up to it? Doesn't sound very loving.

According to the religion, humans were created perfect and chose to sin. Everything since was an effort to redeem them.

If he had to do it this way because of his nature then he is not omnipotent.

Well yeah. Inherently. In fact, I think for any conception of a deity in a religious setting to make sense there must be some kind of limitations on that deity, whether understood by their worshippers or not.

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explodicle sh.itjust.works explodicle@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-04-11
#122 · Quote Reply

I don't think I understand. Do you mean we need a religion to counter capitalism? Religions are always serving the ones in power, some times they may set new rulers, but then they serve the new rulers... And no rulers will be good if it is with a protection that pass all to them and protect them. So I think rationality and education are more likely to be the solution than any religion (even in ...

Do you mean we need a religion to counter capitalism?

That fell into the same trap you described. They had faith that the vanguard state would wither.

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prole lemmy.blahaj.zone prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-06-11
#123 · (edited) Quote Reply

That's actually pretty much in-line with how a lot of gods were portrayed back then. Have you read any Greek mythology? The gods were assholes there, too.

Yeah, there isn't much originality in Christianity. Besides the point, really.

How many billions of people in 2026 are Hellenistic? Like actually, earnestly, believe in Greek mythology?

What percent of politicians in the US worship Greek gods and use their teachings to inform policy?

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Peacepath lemmy.world peacepath@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-04-21
#124 · Quote Reply

Do you mean we need a religion to counter capitalism? That fell into the same trap you described. They had faith that the vanguard state would wither.

Who do you mean by they? And can you develop?

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explodicle sh.itjust.works explodicle@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-04-11
#125 · Quote Reply

Who do you mean by they? And can you develop?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanguardism

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Fleppensteyn sh.itjust.works Fleppensteijn@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-12-20
#126 · Quote Reply

The Christian bible says exactly the same thing, Christians just ignore it. Thy shall not make graven images

I'm pretty sure that's one of the reasons we have Protestants.

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Peacepath lemmy.world peacepath@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-04-21
#127 · Quote Reply

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanguardism

If they follow principles without critical thinking, then yes they have a faith and transform their movement into a religion. Yet Lenin's principles are to call for critics, to evaluate situations rationally and to reject dogmatism. So following this principles dogmatically is a bit ironic...

Yet I haven't met anyone claiming being a vanguard yet, or they haven't told me much about their view on Lenin's thoughts.

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Psythik lemmy.world Psythik@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-12-21
#128 · Quote Reply

Veggietales? I didn't grow up watching it but I thought I read somewhere that the creators actively didn't want to depict God/Jesus in that? Maybe it's just because Veggietales is part of the "love each other" version of Christianity and that's bad and woke.

IDK probably. The show was likely too woke for him.

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Mastengwe sh.itjust.works Mastengwe@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-11-28
#129 · Quote Reply

He’s a skeleton on a stick.

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus lemmy.world Felis_Catus_Domesticus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-07
#130 · Quote Reply

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TankovayaDiviziya lemmy.world TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-22
#131 · Quote Reply

The Christian bible says exactly the same thing, Christians just ignore it. Thy shall not make graven images

I could be wrong but I think one of the dividing issues between Orthodox Christians and Catholic is the depictions of religious figures. The Orthodox is more strict about it.

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FluidBeef quokk.au FluidBeef@quokk.au
Joined: 2025-08-12
#132 · Quote Reply

In Christianity, the crucifixion is the moment of victory. Christ’s sinless death is what allows mankind to be redeemed, and that was the plan all along. So they see the crucifixion as holy, though it is also mourned. It is used as a reminder of the love God has for his people and as a sort of “try to be better” thing.

Jesus is the original version of The Dark Knight’s “getting captured was the plan all along” trope.

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Tattorack lemmy.world Tattorack@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-28
#133 · Quote Reply

Under Christianity idols are also forbidden. Something about idols being perversions rather than holy. It's just one of those things out of many Christians seems to ignore...

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Venator lemmy.nz Venator@lemmy.nz
Joined: 2023-12-28
#134 · Quote Reply

I'm pretty sure that's one of the reasons we have Protestants.

The other reason is King Henry VIII wanted a divorce and the pope said no.

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AppleMango lemmy.world AppleMango@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#135 · Quote Reply

Why is it a mental disorder? Can I have a source?

I guess lemmy is also becoming reddit now, shamed for asking a simple question

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