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Poll: Approval of Socialism at Record High as Capitalist Principles Hit New Lows
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DickHertz lemmy.world DickHertz@lemmy.world
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I mean it’s become obvious that capitalism isn’t benefiting anyone but the rich at this point so it’s natural for people to look for something else. 🤷

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orioler25 lemmy.world orioler25@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-10-19
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Kind of a misleading headline and article. Literally, the survey they're citing just asked randos "What do you think of [political ideology/topic]?" and reported the rates of responses. It doesn't account for how "socialism" is a nebulous term colloquially, or that welfare liberals have readily appropriated many socialist talking points and rhetoric. This is more accurately read as, "Americans don't like big business, take 'socialism' as an alternative; oh also it went down among the purportedly more 'leftist' Dem voters."

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_haha_oh_wow_ sh.itjust.works _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-12
#4 · (edited) Quote Reply

Step 1: Make healthcare unaffordable so companies can make lots of extra money.

Step 2: Call people who want to provide basic things like adequate healthcare socialists or communists.

Step 3: ?????

Step 4: Lose the election Profit!!!

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TheTechnician27 lemmy.world TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-25
#5 · (edited) Quote Reply

Kind of a misleading headline and article. Literally, the survey they're citing just asked randos "What do you think of [political ideology/topic]?" and reported the rates of responses. It doesn't account for how "socialism" is a nebulous term colloquially, or that welfare liberals have readily appropriated many socialist talking points and rhetoric. This is more accurately read as, "Americans ...

Literally, the survey they're citing just asked randos "What do you think of [political ideology/topic]?" and reported the rates of responses.

"This article is so misleading! All they did was survey people to ask if they approve of the thing and then directly report how many of them approve of the thing. How dare they obtain a representative sample "ask randos". I mean for crying out loud, they didn't even lead the respondents based on assumptions I've made about their knowledge! And the fact it went very marginally down among Democrats somehow negates that it shot up among independents, making it even misleadingerer!!"

This is more accurately read as, "Americans don't like big business, take 'socialism' as an alternative

Ah, yes, and your brilliant insight explains why, uh:

  • Support for big business absolutely plummeted among Democrats over the last half-decade while support for socialism stayed functionally the same.
  • Support for big business and socialism among Republicans is roughly positively correlated.
  • Independents' support for big business and socialism is a historical mix of positive and negative correlation.

Those two trend lines intersected, which has to mean they're being substituted.

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zabadoh ani.social zabadoh@ani.social
Joined: 2023-11-19
#6 · Quote Reply

Step 1: Make healthcare unaffordable so companies can make lots of extra money. Step 2: Call people who want to provide basic things like adequate healthcare socialists or communists. Step 3: ????? Step 4: Lose the election Profit!!!

The capitalists can't lose the election since both parties are bought and paid for.

We need strong 3rd parties.

And many more representatives so that they can be more representative of the population.

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boatswain infosec.pub boatswain@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-06-18
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The poll results are pretty interesting:

Over the longer term, Americans have become less positive about most of the market-oriented concepts Gallup tracks. Since 2010, positive views of big business have fallen by 14 percentage points, free enterprise by nine points and capitalism by six points. Small business is the exception, with views of it unchanged. Meanwhile, positive impressions of socialism have risen by seven points.

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DjangoFett lemmy.zip DjangoFett@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-07-05
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The capitalists can't lose the election since both parties are bought and paid for. We need strong 3rd parties. And many more representatives so that they can be more representative of the population.

Third parties are immediately quashed by the machine.

Like them or not, DSA candidates have the right of it; infiltrate the parties and effect changes from within. You cannot simply erase one of the two parties without a vast majority responding to the blatant power grab violently.

Unless you want a full blow violent revolution. In which case do you boo boo, but I would much rather a more peaceful solution for my children to witness.

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_haha_oh_wow_ sh.itjust.works _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-12
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The capitalists can't lose the election since both parties are bought and paid for. We need strong 3rd parties. And many more representatives so that they can be more representative of the population.

Let's bring back the Bull Moose party!

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wyldrstallyns lemmy.dbzer0.com wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-05-16
#10 · Quote Reply

Can't hit zero if you're already nonexistent. 🤌🏼

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wyldrstallyns lemmy.dbzer0.com wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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The capitalists can't lose the election since both parties are bought and paid for. We need strong 3rd parties. And many more representatives so that they can be more representative of the population.

If by "third-party", you assume the dismantling of the initial two, maybe.

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wyldrstallyns lemmy.dbzer0.com wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-05-16
#12 · Quote Reply

Third parties are immediately quashed by the machine. Like them or not, DSA candidates have the right of it; infiltrate the parties and effect changes from within. You cannot simply erase one of the two parties without a vast majority responding to the blatant power grab violently. Unless you want a full blow violent revolution. In which case do you boo boo, but I would much rather a more peace...

I, for one, would return to protesting if it were a full blow revolution. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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AngryCommieKender lemmy.world AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-02
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The capitalists can't lose the election since both parties are bought and paid for. We need strong 3rd parties. And many more representatives so that they can be more representative of the population.

We need to get rid of FPTP. You mathematically can't have third parties in a FPTP system, but that wasn't proven until over 70 years after The Union was formed.

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AngryCommieKender lemmy.world AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-02
#14 · (edited) Quote Reply

I, for one, would return to protesting if it were a full blow revolution. 🤷🏼‍♂️

You for one, would continue doing nothing if a revolution happened.

You don't show on the front lines today, so you will continue to do effectively nothing to support the front lines in the future.

I show up to the ICE OUT protests daily, knowing my face has been recorded, and my identity is in a Palantir database.

If they want to come get me, they better be prepared to lose a minimum of 3 agents and a maximum of 16 before I stop using the training they, the military and boy scouts, gave me against them

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CrimeIsLegalNow ani.social CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social
Joined: 2026-09-09
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It's a great first step, now to to teach the libs that socialism isn't the government doing stuff.

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