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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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Currently playing a video game and a NPC called me this. It’s a pre-boomer term as I’ve always known. So, I thought it’d be fun to see who gets close to the definition.

Based entirely on trust-

Without googling it, wtf is a rap scallion?

EDIT: For clarification, I know it means onery and rambunctious youth, but what is it derived from. Like the origin of the term.

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gastroglizzy piefed.social gastroglizzy@piefed.social
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A rake, a knave, a cur, a lout, a scoundrel.

As far as etymology, it's derived from "rascallion", the long form of "rascal", which itself is derived from the French term "rascaille", which refers to a mob.

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DomeGuy lemmy.world DomeGuy@lemmy.world
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Well, I'm pretty sure it's just one word for starters.

I've always read 'rapscallion' as a sort of youthful miscreant: an almost gender-neutral mildly negative label applied to a person lacking the wisdom of age who is engaged with some slightly rebellious activity.

The word died about the time of ww2, when most of those erstwhile rapscallions became war veterans or casualties.

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DagwoodIII piefed.social DagwoodIII@piefed.social
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One word. Rapscallion.

It's a general insult, like 'low life' or creep' or 'sleazoid.'

An untrustworthy knave.

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ShellMonkey piefed.socdojo.com ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com
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A scallion, skilled in freestyle hip-hop

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whotookkarl lemmy.dbzer0.com whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#6 · (edited) Quote Reply

A rake, a knave, a cur, a lout, a scoundrel. As far as etymology, it's derived from "rascallion", the long form of "rascal", which itself is derived from the French term "rascaille", which refers to a mob.

A rogue, a ne'er do well, a persona non grata

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MajorMajormajormajor lemmy.ca MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca
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#7 · (edited) Quote Reply

A scallion, skilled in freestyle hip-hop

The notorious Sca.lli.on.

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toomanypancakes crazypeople.online toomanypancakes@crazypeople.online
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That's a green onion with hella flow, put them on the record.

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one_old_coder piefed.social one_old_coder@piefed.social
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#9 · Quote Reply

Rap Scallion is a cook in Monkey Island.

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MajorMajormajormajor lemmy.ca MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca
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#10 · Quote Reply

A ne'er-do-well scalliwag of the utmost miscreant order.

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TryingToBeGood reddthat.com TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com
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Usually applied to a rambunctious and disobedient child.

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recentSlinky lemmy.ca recentSlinky@lemmy.ca
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#12 · Quote Reply

Is it something like a bothersome/mischievous person?

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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#13 · Quote Reply

Is it something like a bothersome/mischievous person?

Yeah. But what is it?

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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Usually applied to a rambunctious and disobedient child.

I know that much. But what is it derived from is what I meant.

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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A ne'er-do-well scalliwag of the utmost miscreant order.

I mis-asked the question. I mean, the origin of the term. Like where did it come from?

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TryingToBeGood reddthat.com TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com
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I know that much. But what is it derived from is what I meant.

Ah, got me there.

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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#17 · (edited) Quote Reply

That's a green onion with hella flow, put them on the record.

I do not know what this means, but it sounds like you have a lot of conviction in it.

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Rhynoplaz lemmy.world Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
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#18 · Quote Reply

A rascal. Someone who causes mischief, but in a mostly harmless way. It's not evil and greed, that motivates them, it's more like trolling.

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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One word. Rapscallion. It's a general insult, like 'low life' or creep' or 'sleazoid.' An untrustworthy knave.

Right, but… origin. How didn’t come to mean that? What does it mean outside of the derogatory?

A scallion is an ocean fairing creature. So… what’s a rapscallion? And why is it bad?

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AbouBenAdhem lemmy.world AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world
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I know that much. But what is it derived from is what I meant.

If you’re looking for guesses about the etymology, I’m guessing it shares an origin with “rascal”.

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Tomtits lemmy.dbzer0.com blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I always thought it was Rab Scalliron who was a famous Glaswegian prankster from the 1700's

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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Well, I'm pretty sure it's just one word for starters. I've always read 'rapscallion' as a sort of youthful miscreant: an almost gender-neutral mildly negative label applied to a person lacking the wisdom of age who is engaged with some slightly rebellious activity. The word died about the time of ww2, when most of those erstwhile rapscallions became war veterans or casualties.

Fair. But my wueseuj was to mean, why is it a bad thing? What is a rap scallion? Sort of one how “asshole” is a derogatory, and it’s… well, an asshole. No one wants to be one. So why is a rapscallion bad?

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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I always thought it was Rab Scalliron who was a famous Glaswegian prankster from the 1700's

Nah, you’re thinking of the guy that used to be funny in those Adam Sandler movies that is now a douchebag.

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schipelblorp sh.itjust.works schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
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#24 · (edited) Quote Reply

Well, I'm pretty sure it's just one word for starters. I've always read 'rapscallion' as a sort of youthful miscreant: an almost gender-neutral mildly negative label applied to a person lacking the wisdom of age who is engaged with some slightly rebellious activity. The word died about the time of ww2, when most of those erstwhile rapscallions became war veterans or casualties.

Those rapscallions veterans would go on to accuse the the next generation of rapscallions of being punks.

Edit: Just checked if YouTube had a supercut of WIlliam Shatner's TJ Hooker calling kids "punk"", but alas: nothing.

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Executive Chimp discuss.tchncs.de executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de
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A rogue, a ne'er do well, a persona non grata

A bounder, a cad

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aMockTie piefed.world aMockTie@piefed.world
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For the origin of the word, I'm guessing it either has something to do with bad breath, or is a repurposed term from another language, likely mispronounced or misunderstood by English speakers.

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boydster sh.itjust.works boydster@sh.itjust.works
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#27 · (edited) Quote Reply

Deleted... oh no... I'm sorry I clearly can't follow instructions and the word nerd in me took over I AM SO SORRY!!

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DomeGuy lemmy.world DomeGuy@lemmy.world
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#28 · Quote Reply

Fair. But my wueseuj was to mean, why is it a bad thing? What is a rap scallion? Sort of one how “asshole” is a derogatory, and it’s… well, an asshole. No one wants to be one. So why is a rapscallion bad?

Most societies historically had some form of negative pressure applied to post-adolescents who refuse to accept adult responsibilities.

Of course, you said not to search so I'm just spitballing here.

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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#29 · (edited) Quote Reply

Deleted... oh no... I'm sorry I clearly can't follow instructions and the word nerd in me took over I AM SO SORRY!!

Dude- The first sentence in the title man…..

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hakase lemmy.zip hakase@lemmy.zip
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#30 · (edited) Quote Reply

Right, but… origin. How didn’t come to mean that? What does it mean outside of the derogatory? A scallion is an ocean fairing creature. So… what’s a rapscallion? And why is it bad?

A scallion is a green onion. A scallop is an ocean-faring creature.

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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#31 · Quote Reply

For the origin of the word, I'm guessing it either has something to do with bad breath, or is a repurposed term from another language, likely mispronounced or misunderstood by English speakers.

Someone googled it. Thought would be fun, but I guess it’s over.

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jakemehoff11 sh.itjust.works jakemehoff11@sh.itjust.works
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I'm almost certain it's a fancification of the word rascal. Like some dude in 1750 said 'what's rascal short for?' and his quick witted friend said rapscallion and yada yada now it's a word.

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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#33 · Quote Reply

A scallion is a green onion. A scallop is an ocean-faring creature.

This is why one shouldn’t post on social media while on ADHD meds after not sleeping in almost 24.

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DomeGuy lemmy.world DomeGuy@lemmy.world
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Most societies historically had some form of negative pressure applied to post-adolescents who refuse to accept adult responsibilities. Of course, you said not to search so I'm just spitballing here.

And, in doing a search, it looks like I was wrong!

;)

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rapscallion

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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#35 · Quote Reply

Most societies historically had some form of negative pressure applied to post-adolescents who refuse to accept adult responsibilities. Of course, you said not to search so I'm just spitballing here.

A good a guess as any. Though someone googled it… ☹️

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hakase lemmy.zip hakase@lemmy.zip
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#36 · Quote Reply

Someone googled it. Thought would be fun, but I guess it’s over.

People will have to scroll down to see their comment, so I think it will still be fun. :)

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aMockTie piefed.world aMockTie@piefed.world
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Deleted... oh no... I'm sorry I clearly can't follow instructions and the word nerd in me took over I AM SO SORRY!!

Spoiler warning! If you searched wiktionary directly (or used Bing, DDG, etc.), you technically followed the letter of the rules, but certainly didn't follow their spirit.

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PhilosoDOOM lemmy.world AnalogAllamma@lemmy.world
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#38 · Quote Reply

A step above a skallywag.

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aMockTie piefed.world aMockTie@piefed.world
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#39 · (edited) Quote Reply

Someone googled it. Thought would be fun, but I guess it’s over.

I thought it was fun. After looking it up myself I learned:

Spoiler

I was definitely wrong, but got one aspect partially right. Rascallian came from rascal, which was originally a French word (rascaile) for the "people of the lowest class, the general mass; rabble or foot-soldiers of an army"
source

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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#40 · Quote Reply

I thought it was fun. After looking it up myself I learned: ::: spoiler Spoiler I was definitely wrong, but got one aspect partially right. Rascallian came from rascal, which was originally a French word (rascaile) for the "people of the lowest class, the general mass; rabble or foot-soldiers of an army" source :::

Close! Awesome job! I don’t think I’d have gotten anywhere near that. I was already confusing it with scallops. LOL.

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aMockTie piefed.world aMockTie@piefed.world
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#41 · (edited) Quote Reply

I do not know what this means, but it sounds like you have a lot of conviction in it.

Hella flow = A rapper or orator who is very proficient and makes it seem effortless.

Put them on the Record = They should be included on our upcoming album.

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JustPlainDave lemmy.zip JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip
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#42 · Quote Reply

A bounder, a cad

A hoodlum

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kbal fedia.io kbal@fedia.io
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There was a travelling circus that had a lion, and during its performances they noticed it did much better if they played certain kinds of music. This lion was into rap and ska, so they called it rap-ska-lion and rapscallion describes its personality.

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Mantzy81 aussie.zone Mantzy81@aussie.zone
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#44 · Quote Reply

Someone who likes rapping but also ska and has a fursona of a lion.

Obviously.

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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Someone who likes rapping but also ska and has a fursona of a lion. Obviously.

A rapska’er if you will!

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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#46 · Quote Reply

There was a travelling circus that had a lion, and during its performances they noticed it did much better if they played certain kinds of music. This lion was into rap and ska, so they called it rap-ska-lion and rapscallion describes its personality.

LMAO! We have a winner! I don’t care that it’s probably untrue. 😂

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Unleaded8163 fedia.io Unleaded8163@fedia.io
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#47 · Quote Reply

He's the vegan in a trio with the Rhymenoceros and the Hiphopopotamus.

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OriginEnergySux lemmy.world OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world
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#48 · (edited) Quote Reply

I got called this by an old guy back when i was a kid in the 90s. Im assuming it means cunt or something like that

Edit: Im in australia, everything means cunt at some point

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aMockTie piefed.world aMockTie@piefed.world
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Close! Awesome job! I don’t think I’d have gotten anywhere near that. I was already confusing it with scallops. LOL.

You may have just invented a new villain for Aqua Man, Rapscallopian, the heavily armored terror with unstoppable freestyling flow.

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slazer2au lemmy.world slazer2au@lemmy.world
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A cheeky fucker

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yesman lemmy.world yesman@lemmy.world
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#51 · Quote Reply

it's a green onion, with flow.

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