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zarkanian
sh.itjust.works
zarkanian@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-01-11 |
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lemmy.world
Witchfire@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-10-07 |
Hell yeah it is, and it's one of the easiest features to implement! |
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YurkshireLad
lemmy.ca
YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Hell yeah it is, and it's one of the easiest features to implement!
No change required! |
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MousePotatoDoesStuff
piefed.social
MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social Joined: 2026-04-22 |
Common FOSS W |
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hperrin
lemmy.ca
hperrin@lemmy.ca Joined: 2024-12-13 |
Itās one of the awesome features of my email service, https://port87.com/ Iāve yet to prominently display it on the home page, but itās on the home page of the help site. |
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LostWanderer
fedia.io
LostWanderer@fedia.ioJoined: 2025-07-01 |
I love that for LibreOffice, just keeping it real and human! |
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Sailor Anarres
lemmy.dbzer0.com
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-08-22 |
Sad that this is no longer the default for all applications. |
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Rhaedas
fedia.io
Rhaedas@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-03-03 |
I love that for LibreOffice, just keeping it real and human!
It's also a decent suite too. Been using both Writer and Calc a lot in the last few years. |
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LostWanderer
fedia.io
LostWanderer@fedia.ioJoined: 2025-07-01 |
It's also a decent suite too. Been using both Writer and Calc a lot in the last few years.
Yeah, I do find Writer and Draw to be very competent at what it does, haven't used the other aspects of the software suite though. Have them around in case of needing them! |
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FriendOfDeSoto
startrek.website
FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.websiteJoined: 2023-06-12 |
I appreciate their thinking to the point that it means there is an office suite of software available that doesn't currently contain any "American Intelligence" features.
As soon as there is a version of it that can be run entirely locally, they are not averse to adding it though. They're not on team never-AI. |
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Eat_Your_Paisley
lemmy.world
Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-13 |
"at this time" The document foundation continues to disappoint |
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BLU3TATO!
lemmy.eco.br
BLU3TATO012@lemmy.eco.brJoined: 2026-10-07 |
"at this time" The document foundation continues to disappoint
what do you mean? |
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Eat_Your_Paisley
lemmy.world
Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-13 |
what do you mean?
The document foundation compatibilty has been a disappointment for many years yet no work was done to fix it, now that AI can do part of their job they don't like it but when it can do more history says they'll adopt it in a hot minute |
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0x0
infosec.pub
0x0@infosec.pub Joined: 2024-05-20 |
I appreciate their thinking to the point that it means there is an office suite of software available that doesn't currently contain any "American Intelligence" features. LibreOffice said that there is currently āno integrationā that meets all of its requirements, such as ensuring that the usersā data stays on their device and that there is no reliance on a single AI provider, among other consi...
And why should they be? Only zealots would argue that's a good thing. |
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JoeBigelow
lemmy.ca
JoeBigelow@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-07-06 |
The document foundation compatibilty has been a disappointment for many years yet no work was done to fix it, now that AI can do part of their job they don't like it but when it can do more history says they'll adopt it in a hot minute
Seems like open source no? Be the change you want to see! |
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Eat_Your_Paisley
lemmy.world
Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-13 |
Seems like open source no? Be the change you want to see!
I default to open source but when push comes to shove I just need it to read, edit, and save to whatever format it was created in. |
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FriendOfDeSoto
startrek.website
FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.websiteJoined: 2023-06-12 |
They're not on team never-AI. And why should they be? Only zealots would argue that's a good thing.
I just wanted to point that out because a lot of praise heaped upon them comes from the more zealoty side. |
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BottleBoardBakon
lemmy.ml
BottleBoardBakon@lemmy.mlJoined: 2026-05-17 |
Itās one of the awesome features of my email service, https://port87.com/ Iāve yet to prominently display it on the home page, but itās on the home page of the help site.
Legitimately the first random comment ad I'm considering. I'm trying to figure out if I could use this in combination with my alias service. |
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hperrin
lemmy.ca
hperrin@lemmy.ca Joined: 2024-12-13 |
Legitimately the first random comment ad I'm considering. I'm trying to figure out if I could use this in combination with my alias service.
You can. I encourage you to. The only reason it isnāt anonymized is that places tend to block anonymous email services, but it works really well with anonymous alias services. |
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moldy_rice
piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.comJoined: 2026-08-07 |
I wish more companies did this. In their features section, they should list "no AI" and I'd list it as a plus when comparing to competitors before buying |
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moldy_rice
piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.comJoined: 2026-08-07 |
I default to open source but when push comes to shove I just need it to read, edit, and save to whatever format it was created in.
Someone sends me a docx, I send it back as a odt. |
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moldy_rice
piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.comJoined: 2026-08-07 |
Itās one of the awesome features of my email service, https://port87.com/ Iāve yet to prominently display it on the home page, but itās on the home page of the help site.
Can the customers send emails using these aliases too? |
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moldy_rice
piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.comJoined: 2026-08-07 |
Itās one of the awesome features of my email service, https://port87.com/ Iāve yet to prominently display it on the home page, but itās on the home page of the help site.
The top left menu doesn't open without JavaScript. You might want to fix that. |
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moldy_rice
piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.comJoined: 2026-08-07 |
No change required!
Oh boy, no. I guess you don't maintain any foss projects. There are tons of slop PRs and issues that you have to fend off. It requires updating a lot of processes and contribution guidelines. |
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hperrin
lemmy.ca
hperrin@lemmy.ca Joined: 2024-12-13 |
Sharing a different address with every app or service keeps them from tracking you. If a company leaks your email, you can easily change a labelās address and block the address that was leaked, preventing spammers from reaching you. Can the customers send emails using these aliases too?
Yes. :) |
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hperrin
lemmy.ca
hperrin@lemmy.ca Joined: 2024-12-13 |
The top left menu doesn't open without JavaScript. You might want to fix that.
The entire website doesnāt work without JavaScript. It is super duper duper reliant on JavaScript and I donāt plan on changing that. The reason is that JavaScript lets you prevent cross site request forgery. Without it, I wouldnāt be able to tell if you actually made a request to send an email, delete an email, create an alias, etc, or if that request came from some website tricking you into clicking some malicious link/button. (To be more accurate, it is possible, but would be much harder and require managing a lot more state objects in the DB.) Also, without JS, you couldnāt have push notifications, and youād have to refresh the page to see new email. If youāre worried about trackers, there are none. The only things that are loaded from external domains are Google Fonts, Cloudflare Turnstile, and the Stripe payments script. The site would still work if you blocked all of those, except for the specific things theyāre used for. |
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moldy_rice
piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.comJoined: 2026-08-07 |
The entire website doesnāt work without JavaScript. It is super duper duper reliant on JavaScript and I donāt plan on changing that. The reason is that JavaScript lets you prevent cross site request forgery. Without it, I wouldnāt be able to tell if you actually made a request to send an email, delete an email, create an alias, etc, or if that request came from some website tricking you into cl...
That sucks. Squirrel Mail works fine for other providers. |
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hperrin
lemmy.ca
hperrin@lemmy.ca Joined: 2024-12-13 |
That sucks. Squirrel Mail works fine for other providers.
SquirrelMail is a completely different kind of product⦠Port87 is a hosted email service. SquirrelMail is a self-hostable webmail client. SquirrelMail also predates AJAX and nearly predates JavaScript itself. It came out 24 years before Port87. The latest official release of SquirrelMail is also 13 years old at this point. You should be using Roundcube if you want self hosted webmail (which also requires JavaScript). |
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moldy_rice
piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.comJoined: 2026-08-07 |
SquirrelMail is a completely different kind of product⦠Port87 is a hosted email service. SquirrelMail is a self-hostable webmail client. SquirrelMail also predates AJAX and nearly predates JavaScript itself. It came out 24 years before Port87. The latest official release of SquirrelMail is also 13 years old at this point. You should be using Roundcube if you want self hosted webmail (which als...
Well, definitely won't be using your service |
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hperrin
lemmy.ca
hperrin@lemmy.ca Joined: 2024-12-13 |
Well, definitely won't be using your service
Thatās ok. It sounds like it would not be a good fit for you. |
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paraproto
szmer.info
paraproto@szmer.info Joined: 2026-09-10 |
Itās one of the awesome features of my email service, https://port87.com/ Iāve yet to prominently display it on the home page, but itās on the home page of the help site.
For some years I am thinking about making a similar service, but as a receive only box with a twist. I wanted aliases to be done on domain level and tunnel encrypted traffic straight to user's device as the TLS certificate for e-mail server would reside on user's device. Thanks to that I wouldn't need to store anything and I wouldn't be able to snoop anything (at least without being seen). That way user's phone would be their e-mail server. When an address would get compromised it could be filtered on the DNS level before it even would reach the user's device. There are lots of challenges that way that I have ideas to overcome somewhat, but yeah I would trade one kind of complexity for the other. My worry for addresses in style user-alias@example.com is that alias is not random by default meaning someone can imply what addresses you have based on a single address. At the same time this keeps things simpler for users, because otherwise it gets janky and you of course need a mapping between a random address and what it means as well as a wanting for password manager integration or a browser extension at least. I guess it is a balance, but by not allowing the perfect become an enemy of the good your service works right now. I acknowledge that you might have struck the perfect balance so please don't take it as a jab at you. I see that you have this "Patented Spam Filtering", so cheers! :) |
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hperrin
lemmy.ca
hperrin@lemmy.ca Joined: 2024-12-13 |
For some years I am thinking about making a similar service, but as a receive only box with a twist. I wanted aliases to be done on domain level and tunnel encrypted traffic straight to user's device as the TLS certificate for e-mail server would reside on user's device. Thanks to that I wouldn't need to store anything and I wouldn't be able to snoop anything (at least without being seen). That...
When an SMTP connection comes in, you donāt know who itās for (RCPT TO) until after the STARTTLS handshake, so you wouldnāt know whose phone to forward that traffic to. The only reliable way to do that would be a dedicated IP address for every user. Since SMTP is pretty much exclusively IPv4, that would be expensive. Not impossible, but expensive. If youāre doing it for only a handful of users, it could definitely work. Let me know if you do build it, because it sounds cool. Also, thank you for the compliments. :) |
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