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notSys lemmy.cafe notSys@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2026-08-28 |
(I'm talking about countries where VAT applies to everything) Most taxes are mandatory. VAT is not. When you buy a car, you know that, say, 10% of the price will go to the state. By paying the full price, you agree to pay that tax. |
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brunogron feddit.nu brunogron@feddit.nu Joined: 2023-07-03 |
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hendrik palaver.p3x.de hendrik@palaver.p3x.de Joined: 2021-08-21 |
Hmm. What's with income tax? I think I could just become unemployed and save on income tax as well? Not own any land, property, businesses, cars, money etc and those kinds of taxes wouldn't apply to me either? Is there even any mandatory tax by that definition? |
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notSys lemmy.cafe notSys@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2026-08-28 |
Exactly what you read. VAT is voluntary |
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Zwuzelmaus feddit.org Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org Joined: 2024-12-14 |
Has something hacked your lemmy account? |
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notSys lemmy.cafe notSys@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2026-08-28 |
Has something hacked your lemmy account?
No |
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smaximov lemmy.world smaximov@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-31 |
No
Exactly what a hacker would say. |
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Communist lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ![]() communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz Joined: 2024-07-06 |
How do you buy the stuff to start farming? The land? |
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notSys lemmy.cafe notSys@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2026-08-28 |
How do you buy the stuff to start farming? The land?
Creat it yourself. Find a piece of land without tax. |
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remon ani.social remon@ani.social Joined: 2024-09-25 |
The business has to report how much items they sold and pay $10 tax per item. Sure they can lower their price, but it will come out of their earnings ... so they won't. At the end of the day the VAT get's paid. So it's not optional. |
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notSys lemmy.cafe notSys@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2026-08-28 |
If the business thinks nobody will pay $110, it can lower its price. The same principle still applies. So taxes that people agree to pay are possible. The business has to report how much items they sold and pay $10 tax per item. Sure they can lower their price, but it will come out of their earnings ... so they won't. At the end of the day the VAT get's paid. So it's not optional.
You don't need to buy items with VAT |
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remon ani.social remon@ani.social Joined: 2024-09-25 |
You don't need to buy items with VAT
Sure, you can just not buy an item. Or you could steal it. But if I want to eat and not be a criminal, I have to buy items with VAT. |
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notSys lemmy.cafe notSys@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2026-08-28 |
Sure, you can just not buy an item. Or you could steal it. But if I want to eat and not be a criminal, I have to buy items with VAT.
You can farm your own. |
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remon ani.social remon@ani.social Joined: 2024-09-25 |
You can farm your own.
You still need buy seeds, farm equipment, fuel, etc. Also of which have VAT on them. Or are you suggestion I should also build my own equipment and drill for my own oil? |
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notSys lemmy.cafe notSys@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2026-08-28 |
You still need buy seeds, farm equipment, fuel, etc. Also of which have VAT on them. Or are you suggestion I should also build my own equipment and drill for my own oil?
Yes, build your own |
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remon ani.social remon@ani.social Joined: 2024-09-25 |
Yes, build your own
So your genius plan for avoid VAT is to basically abandon modern society. I'll take the VAT, you do you. |
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notSys lemmy.cafe notSys@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2026-08-28 |
So your genius plan for avoid VAT is to basically abandon modern society. I'll take the VAT, you do you.
Yes. You can take VAT and I'll choose it too, but you can't say it is mandatory |
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remon ani.social remon@ani.social Joined: 2024-09-25 |
Yes. You can take VAT and I'll choose it too, but you can't say it is mandatory
Sure. Breathing isn't mandatary either, you only really need it if you want to stay alive. |
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notSys lemmy.cafe notSys@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2026-08-28 |
Sure. Breathing isn't mandatary either, you only really need it if you want to stay alive.
You don't need to buy anything to live |
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remon ani.social remon@ani.social Joined: 2024-09-25 |
You don't need to buy anything to live
Unless you want to live like a cavemen, you kind of do. |
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Communist lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ![]() communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz Joined: 2024-07-06 |
Creat it yourself. Find a piece of land without tax.
You have to pay for the land even if it's untaxed, which will generate income which means you'll be taxed? |
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