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Cat-Shaped Vessel from Peru, c.200-700
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negativenull piefed.world negativenull@piefed.world
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https://search.smb.museum/object/obj-4826

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Catoblepas lemmy.blahaj.zone Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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I fucking love this. It’s so cute but also so menacing with its teeth and red eyes. I wonder what animal it represents. Puma? Some small wild cat? If it was a jaguar I feel like the spots would have survived if it ever had any. Why does it have a bird on its head? Is it related to mythology and folktales or pure whimsy? They must have had people making whimsical nonsense back then, too.

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negativenull piefed.world negativenull@piefed.world
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I fucking love this. It’s so cute but also so menacing with its teeth and red eyes. I wonder what animal it represents. Puma? Some small wild cat? If it was a jaguar I feel like the spots would have survived if it ever had any. Why does it have a bird on its head? Is it related to mythology and folktales or pure whimsy? They must have had people making whimsical nonsense back then, too.

I was unable to find any details beyond the images I posted. I wish I knew more as well. I freakin' love the fangs and the little tail wrapping around the back.

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Diplomjodler lemmy.world Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world
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I fucking love this. It’s so cute but also so menacing with its teeth and red eyes. I wonder what animal it represents. Puma? Some small wild cat? If it was a jaguar I feel like the spots would have survived if it ever had any. Why does it have a bird on its head? Is it related to mythology and folktales or pure whimsy? They must have had people making whimsical nonsense back then, too.

It's the Cheshire Cat, obviously.

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saltnotsugar lemmy.world saltnotsugar@lemmy.world
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The client needs a vessel that is largely practical but mostly to give his kids cat based nightmares.

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CapuccinoCoretto lemmy.world CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world
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#6 · (edited) Quote Reply

It's the Cheshire Cat, obviously.

This is the third recent post that reminds me of famous characters. I'm convinced artists are stealing ancient art for inspiration.

There was some caveman painting on the cave's wall thinking "all art is derivative. How can Grog create, when nothing new under sun."

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Diplomjodler lemmy.world Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world
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This is the third recent post that reminds me of famous characters. I'm convinced artists are stealing ancient art for inspiration. There was some caveman painting on the cave's wall thinking "all art is derivative. How can Grog create, when nothing new under sun."

A lot of modern art is based on art from indigenous cultures. In fact all cultural development is taking what is already there, doing a little remix and maybe adding a few new aspects.

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Catoblepas lemmy.blahaj.zone Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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I was unable to find any details beyond the images I posted. I wish I knew more as well. I freakin' love the fangs and the little tail wrapping around the back.

I did a brief search of Artstor and the best I can do is ‘probably Moche or Wari/Huari culture’ since both have similar looking cat ceramics, with an open mouth and bared fangs. Based on the reported location Wari is probably the safer bet. I’ll see if I can dig up anything more later.

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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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Recuay culture! Other examples:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Recuay+culture+artifacts%2C+Peru&udm=2

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Drusas fedia.io Drusas@fedia.io
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I would like two of these, tyvm. Please gift wrap one.

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negativenull piefed.world negativenull@piefed.world
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#11 · (edited) Quote Reply

I did a brief search of Artstor and the best I can do is ‘probably Moche or Wari/Huari culture’ since both have similar looking cat ceramics, with an open mouth and bared fangs. Based on the reported location Wari is probably the safer bet. I’ll see if I can dig up anything more later.

Paracas Culture is another option I found (though it several hundred years earlier):
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/313340

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search?artist=Paracas+artist(s)

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negativenull piefed.world negativenull@piefed.world
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Recuay culture! Other examples: https://www.google.com/search?q=Recuay+culture+artifacts%2C+Peru&udm=2

That might be it!
https://www.metmuseum.org/essays/the-art-of-the-recuay

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Catoblepas lemmy.blahaj.zone Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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Paracas Culture is another option I found (though it several hundred years earlier): https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/313340 https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search?artist=Paracas+artist(s)

Ooh, it does have a similar design. Maybe this was an old, widespread motif at the time? Because looking at the geographic range for Paracas culture it looks like it doesn’t overlap with the area it was found (hard to tell on the wiki maps). But people move around, it could be someone from the Paracas culture moved a little further inland and passed down that style of pottery.

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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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That might be it! https://www.metmuseum.org/essays/the-art-of-the-recuay

Thank you so much for posting this. I've been trying to maintain some of these "history" sub-pies since the founder retired, so it's brilliant to see someone else contributing and helpful.

As the Americans say: *fist bump*!

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negativenull piefed.world negativenull@piefed.world
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Thank you so much for posting this. I've been trying to maintain some of these "history" sub-pies since the founder retired, so it's brilliant to see someone else contributing and helpful. As the Americans say: *fist bump*!

I used to post a fair amount here when Pug kept the community filled up, but after their departure, I slowed down. I should pick that back up, because it is such a neat topic.

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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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I used to post a fair amount here when Pug kept the community filled up, but after their departure, I slowed down. I should pick that back up, because it is such a neat topic.

Nice.

Me, I've turned on notifications for these, which are also the major three I try to keep afloat: (at least one post per week, anyway)

!historyart@piefed.social
!historyartifacts@piefed.social
!historyphotos@piefed.social

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GraniteM lemmy.world GraniteM@lemmy.world
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#17 · Quote Reply

Hear me out:

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Duamerthrax lemmy.world Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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Did pre-Columbian Peruvians have cats? I didn't think they had domesticated cats until after, so maybe it's based on a wild cat?

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LaLuzDelSol lemmy.world LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world
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Its well done but also goofy, I like it. Id love to be able to interview the artist and ask what vibe they were going for. Just normal artistic expression? Scary? Deliberately silly?

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ToastedRavioli midwest.social ToastedRavioli@midwest.social
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Did pre-Columbian Peruvians have cats? I didn't think they had domesticated cats until after, so maybe it's based on a wild cat?

Definitely based on a wild cat. There are lots of cats native to South America. Maybe an Andean Mountain Cat

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Slashme lemmy.world Slashme@lemmy.world
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#21 · (edited) Quote Reply

NSFW: They had some pretty wild stuff:

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https://www.precolumbianart4sale.com/type/Ceramic/work/89

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ArcaneGadget nord.pub ArcaneGadget@nord.pub
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#22 · Quote Reply

That one is clearly not from Peru. It's obviously from Cheshire...

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
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#23 · Quote Reply

Not a dog?

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Bieren lemmy.today Bieren@lemmy.today
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#24 · Quote Reply

Must have the same plastic surgeon as Dell.

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