It sounds like you have let your negative experiences taint your worldview.

It's not uncommon. My wife was cheated on a bunch, so it's very hard for her to accept that I have no interest in other women.

If you've experienced a bunch of rejection by men over your looks, it would also very hard to not assume that every man thinks this way.

Both are mostly just confirmation bias, though.

Try being a woman for a change and maybe you’ll understand it bud.

Not going to lie. I would be SO attracted to that. I am so very into people that can be their genuine self without pretending to be what society expects.

Yep I'll get right on that. Sex change operation might have to wait until Monday though.

I agree with ya. Wanna get a 'lil fancy with it? Eye shadow, eyeliner, lipstick, and you're good to go. I love my black women ✨***𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓪𝓵𝓮.***✨

Yeah but PJs are sexy. If she is comfortable wearing pyjamas around me that's great in my opinion. I'm unclear about how exactly this is supposed to be something I would be turned off by, and why that is therefore "a filter".

They may or may not be doing permanent damage but women do a lot of horrific things to their faces with makeup, eyebrows, makeup tattoos, and surgery.

There is a pretty big echo chamber with fashion and it can send things off the rails fast. Same thing happens with body builders, plastic surgery aficionados, and looksmaxers and basically any group you can think of.

Couldn't have me if you wanted. Been off the market for 17 years

Maybe she likes to wear makeup for herself?

i told her she was only going to ruin her face with that

Gross

I wouldn't put makeup in the same category as tattoos and surgery.

Oh my god, you think women bending at the waist is a deliberate invitation to look at their ass?

That's not really what I meant; just that passed-down wisdom often leads women to caution each other it's a common (albeit undeserved) consequence.

I wrote "Not anticipating his objectification" rather than "Not looking" because it's often difficult to specifically make sure someone is fully outside your field of vision the moment they reach for something on the ground.

Women should be able to pick things off the floor without having to think of how many different ways they can do so that isn't an open invitation for men to ogle their ass.

Just because a woman bends at the waist instead of squatting doesn't mean she's inviting wandering eyes.

Sure. But plenty of women enjoy doing makeup to please themselves, and there's nothing inherently damaging in most of it, some is even made to help your skin.

My husband likes the no makeup too, but he sure would not try to tell me it would "ruin my face". I mean - at this point he knows it doesn't as I'm holding up a lot better than he is. But regardless, it's just not really his call.

Those eyelashes, yeah - I think they are dangerous. Also filler, Botox, not gonna do any of that, they don't look good long term and would not object to an "intervention" if I did because it's at least ruinously expensive if nothing else.

Holy shit maniacs. My wifes first time meeting my family we went to meet them at a state park campsite and the cabin didnt have room for us. We slept cuddled up freezing on two camp chairs facing each other. She was a trooper and we've been married 16 years tomorrow...

good looking people look good no matter what they wear.

Like a hot guy with a trilby hat and a Naruto tshirt can still pull game. While a ugly neckbeard in an expensive suit would still have a difficult time getting a single date.

Were people generally accepting of your ambulatory wheelchair status? In my experience people assume that if I have a wheelchair I must be super-glued to it at all times, and make weird comments if I ever stand up

I have a nicer sort of clothes in my whole garderobe but only like one or two dress shirts or not too casual looking shirts and polo tshirts. That's it.

Yeah, people have been super cool about it at furry stuff and kink stuff. But both of those scenes attract people who are able to understand that you can't fit everybody in a box.

Hell yeah.
It's again like most Lemmy (and the bad R users) can only exist in black and in white. Absolutely no shade inbetween >_>.

Congrats you would pass her test.

She's gorgeous, university educated, funny, but I can't believe she'd wear those shoes to 2 consecutive social gatherings! No way I'm touching that pussy now.

Technically true since I wasn't gunna get to touch the pussy before, either.

yOu LooK sO mUcH beTTeR wItHoUt MakEuP type performative nonsense

It isn't as permanent but it can still send someone into the uncanny valley, especially the current drawn on eyebrows thing.

I agree that isn't the best way to phrase it and that how a person feels about how they look matters way more then someone else's opinion but we are basically saying that what women tell each other what men like and what most men actually like can be very different things.

yOu LooK sO mUcH beTTeR wItHoUt MakEuP type performative nonsense

Don't you DARE pretend to know me and then get offended by the things you made up.

You need to seriously take a look at yourself in the mirror and figure out why you're acting like an ass right now.

Nothing about that comment mentioned makeup.

Damn straight. It's the Grinch PJ's that are doing it for me.

Do you have advice for meeting people? My cousin is having to use a wheelchair now, and she says as soon as guys find out, they're gone.

I'd still go after that dork

They stay during sex.

Incel?

Has the "neckbeard" considered personal hygiene, and more clean shaven before thinking about expensive suit?

I hope it has a booty hatch lol

As do the Grinch Crocs.

So what would happen if a hot guy got a neckbeard 🤔

You're allowed to have preferences, but I don't understand how you're having difficulty understanding that other people can have preferences different from your own.

I like when people dress up differently for different contexts. Pajamas can be sexy in some settings, but look sloppy in other settings. I'm not asking people to follow my preferences, but I am asking that you be open to the idea that these other preferences exist.

Well, it's sometimes exciting to be let into that level of intimacy, but it kinda presupposes a woman who normally has a fairly complex hair/makeup routine letting you see her without it. If going without makeup is the norm, then it's not that intimate to be able to see the norm.

It's a matching function. There are things that some people are allowed to prioritize as important that I don't care about at all. I don't care about talent/skill in music, dance, art, but I know people who do. I prefer tall women and know a bunch of people who prefer small/petite women. Some people like firm butts and some like big boobs. Some prefer women who have advanced degrees, and others don't care for it. Some can find accents sexy, while others don't. There are a million little personality quirks that can be a turn off to some and turn on for others.

Defining "perfection" isn't productive. Try to find someone who likes your strengths and doesn't mind your weaknesses, and vice versa. But that doesn't necessarily mean compromising on your important priorities just because people aren't perfect. You're still allowed to define standards.

Footie pajamas sound like a nightmare. I need my toes to be free.

Whatever you say buddy pickme.

Jeez if only there was a word in there to clue in even the dumbest moron on the planet that it's a comparison.

impress em with a wheelie

No, because they're footie pajamas. No crocs. (This time.)

Make one ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Jeez, if only you just accepted that different people have different tastes instead of calling it performative.

You wanna live like common people do?

While I get your point, beauty standards are still a thing, and can't be fixed with personal hygiene.