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Gavin Newsom backs measure to kill the billionaire tax and ban future wealth taxes
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ThePowerOfGeek lemmy.world ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
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#2 · Quote Reply

Of course he does. Because he's a fucking asshole.

The one thing that unites conservatives and leftists right now is their hatred of Newsom.

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warm kbin.earth warm@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-03-03
#3 · Quote Reply

Just wait until proposition 43 that cancels out 42 adds a yearly wealth tax for billionaires!

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Fredselfish sh.itjust.works Fredselfish@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-08-07
#4 · (edited) Quote Reply

Of course he does. Because he's a fucking asshole. The one thing that unites conservatives and leftists right now is their hatred of Newsom.

He also wants to be the DNC pick for president and can't do that unless you are back by the rich.
Also it's that racket effect in action. Newsome literally right of fucking Regan. Didn't he honor him recently? He even allows Maga and nazis on his podcast and sides with them. By time he runs only difference between him and Trump will be age and maybe Newsome isn't pedophile. But who knows might have those skeletons in his closet as well.

In case anyone wants to know what the racket effect is:

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humanamerican lemmy.zip humanamerican@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-04
#5 · Quote Reply

Of course he does. Because he's a fucking asshole. The one thing that unites conservatives and leftists right now is their hatred of Newsom.

Except conservatives hate him because they think he's a leftist and leftists hate him because he is obviously a conservative.

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-06-16
#6 · Quote Reply

He also wants to be the DNC pick for president and can't do that unless you are back by the rich. Also it's that racket effect in action. Newsome literally right of fucking Regan. Didn't he honor him recently? He even allows Maga and nazis on his podcast and sides with them. By time he runs only difference between him and Trump will be age and maybe Newsome isn't pedophile. But who knows might ...

I think autocorrect got you: racket effect

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Wataba sh.itjust.works Wataba@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-02-09
#7 · Quote Reply

He also wants to be the DNC pick for president and can't do that unless you are back by the rich. Also it's that racket effect in action. Newsome literally right of fucking Regan. Didn't he honor him recently? He even allows Maga and nazis on his podcast and sides with them. By time he runs only difference between him and Trump will be age and maybe Newsome isn't pedophile. But who knows might ...

Ratchet effect is shit, non-voters enable the corruption.

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4am lemmy.zip 4am@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-23
#8 · Quote Reply

Yeah well you can’t ban unbanning your ban! Lloyd! Lloyd! You can’t triple stamp a double stamp!

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Unruffled [they/them] lemmy.dbzer0.com Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-20
#9 · Quote Reply

I think autocorrect got you: racket effect

To be honest either option describes the effect pretty well.

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-06-16
#10 · Quote Reply

To be honest either option describes the effect pretty well.

I agree.

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Microtonal_Banana lemmy.zip Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-09-30
#11 · Quote Reply

I cant wait to see him lose in the Presidential primary.

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dondelelcaro lemmy.world dondelelcaro@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#12 · Quote Reply

Of course he does. Because he's a fucking asshole. The one thing that unites conservatives and leftists right now is their hatred of Newsom.

I still have yet to talk to someone who is actually excited about Newsom's inevitable presidential run. I gather the only people who like him any more are billionaires.

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Corvidae lemmy.world Corvidae@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-06-28
#13 · (edited) Quote Reply

He also wants to be the DNC pick for president and can't do that unless you are back by the rich. Also it's that racket effect in action. Newsome literally right of fucking Regan. Didn't he honor him recently? He even allows Maga and nazis on his podcast and sides with them. By time he runs only difference between him and Trump will be age and maybe Newsome isn't pedophile. But who knows might ...

It's been a long time since I've seen someone online mention the Ratchet Effect. This indeed seems an example of it in action. :(

Edited to add link.

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db_null lemmy.dbzer0.com db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-02-16
#14 · Quote Reply

I cant wait to see him lose in the Presidential primary.

It'll be in the presidential election against vance and you will be blamed if you didn't vote for him.

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edible_funk lemmy.world edible_funk@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-05-14
#15 · Quote Reply

Ratchet effect is shit, non-voters enable the corruption.

How dare you tell these idiots they're responsible for their representatives...

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Cherries lemmy.world Cherries@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-12
#16 · Quote Reply

This is so wildly unpopular that Dem leadership would have to be stupid to support Gavin's presidential run.

... they'd... have to be stupid...

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chaogomu lemmy.world chaogomu@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-04
#17 · Quote Reply

It'll be in the presidential election against vance and you will be blamed if you didn't vote for him.

Thanks to Plurality voting, once the primary is over, you have two choices.

Bad and so much worse.

There are other voting systems. Some claim to fix things without actually fixing anything, like Ranked Choice. (First invented and abandoned in 1785, reinvented in the 1820s)

And some actually fix things but are less known, like Approval or STAR. (Approval is ancient, but STAR was developed in 2014)

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MyOpinion lemmy.today MyOpinion@lemmy.today
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#18 · Quote Reply

I will not support him ever.

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FlyingCircus lemmy.world FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-08
#19 · Quote Reply

Thanks to Plurality voting, once the primary is over, you have two choices. Bad and so much worse. There are other voting systems. Some claim to fix things without actually fixing anything, like Ranked Choice. (First invented and abandoned in 1785, reinvented in the 1820s) And some actually fix things but are less known, like Approval or STAR. (Approval is ancient, but STAR was developed in 2014)

Unfortunately, due to Plurality voting, we will never get to try another system without a revolution.

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daq lemmy.dbzer0.com daq@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-10-20
#20 · Quote Reply

This is so wildly unpopular that Dem leadership would have to be stupid to support Gavin's presidential run. ... they'd... have to be stupid...

Unpopular according to what stats? All 3 Lemmy users?
I hope you're right, but I think this worthless piece of shit is going to be our next president.

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daq lemmy.dbzer0.com daq@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-10-20
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Thanks to Plurality voting, once the primary is over, you have two choices. Bad and so much worse. There are other voting systems. Some claim to fix things without actually fixing anything, like Ranked Choice. (First invented and abandoned in 1785, reinvented in the 1820s) And some actually fix things but are less known, like Approval or STAR. (Approval is ancient, but STAR was developed in 2014)

Why do you think ranked choice won't fix anything? I realize it's not prefect, but it immediately fixes the current situation that allowed Trump to win and forces us to vote for lesser evil instead of voting on issues that are actually important to us.

Works great in Australia.

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HulkSmashBurgers reddthat.com HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-07-03
#22 · Quote Reply

Whelp, he's not getting my vote in the primary (if he runs for president)

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TrackenDaKracken lemmy.world TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-09-29
#23 · Quote Reply

Wait! I got it! This asshole is the Democrat Republicans have been warning us about.

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MrSelfDestruct lemmy.dbzer0.com RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-11-20
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I wonder if it's a coincidence that him and fuckface Don Jr married the same degenerate woman?

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chaogomu lemmy.world chaogomu@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-04
#25 · Quote Reply

Why do you think ranked choice won't fix anything? I realize it's not prefect, but it immediately fixes the current situation that allowed Trump to win and forces us to vote for lesser evil instead of voting on issues that are actually important to us. Works great in Australia.

Ranked Choice or Instant Runnoff Voting has some serious foundational problems.

The first of which is that it's actually a series of Plurality elections run at the same time. You cannot fix the problems of Plurality by iterating Plurality.

Basically, because Plurality and RCV and such are Ordinal election systems built on the word "Or". You can support A or B, but not both. This is where the spoiler effect comes from, and it leads to extremism.

Cardinal voting systems like Approval and STAR are built around the word "And". You can support A and B at the exact same level, and this means there's no such thing as a spoiler effect.

I've voted in primaries. There are generally two or three solid candidates who I like, and one or two very bad candidates who have a narrow, but dedicated support base.

Under any ordinal voting system, the solid candidates lose, because there were too many of them. Even when most people would have preferred them.

Under a cardinal system, that's not needed. You can give each of the solid candidates full support, and then not care anymore because one of them will likely win.

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Cherries lemmy.world Cherries@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-12
#26 · Quote Reply

Unpopular according to what stats? All 3 Lemmy users? I hope you're right, but I think this worthless piece of shit is going to be our next president.

Billionaire tax supported by 54% of California voters.
Democrat voters support it by 76%. It sure seems like it would be stupid for the Democratic leadership to alienate 76% of their California voter base.

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