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Chess should end with king being taken, and king should be allowed to be placed into check.
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Potato Lover ๐Ÿ’พ No brain found lemmy.sdf.org user224@lemmy.sdf.org
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It's already both happened to me that I didn't notice I couldn't move a piece without exposing the king or that I won by accident. Had the game not announced this, I wouldn't have known.

And perhaps the opponent might not notice my mistake either. Or it could just be a strategic high-risk scenario, rather than a mistake.

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gastroglizzy piefed.social gastroglizzy@piefed.social
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Technically, chess ends one turn before the king is taken. "Checkmate" basically means, "I can capture your king next turn of I want to and there's no way you can avoid it."

You're not allowed to put your own king in check because, if this were allowed, stalemate wouldn't be possible; the game would always end with the loser moving their king into check and the winner taking it. The rule allows the player of a losing game to still play for a draw, as opposed to simply resigning.

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7uWqKj lemmy.world 7uWqKj@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-27
#3 · Quote Reply

Why, besides supporting your inability to properly apply the rules of chess?

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A_A lemmy.world A_A@lemmy.world
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#4 · Quote Reply

You and your friends can set any rules for any games you play, as long as you agree to the rules together. Sometimes it's fun to try and change the rules.

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deegeese sopuli.xyz deegeese@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-09
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Technically, chess ends one turn before the king is taken. "Checkmate" basically means, "I can capture your king next turn of I want to and there's no way you can avoid it." You're not allowed to put your own king in check because, if this were allowed, stalemate wouldn't be possible; the game would always end with the loser moving their king into check and the winner taking it. The rule allows...

Can you explain how stalemates would be impossible if you could self-check? Functionally I donโ€™t see how thatโ€™s any different from resigning.

You could still stalemate by avoiding check and causing threefold repetition.

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yesman lemmy.world yesman@lemmy.world
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Chess has been extensively play tested and the balance is peak.

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๐Ÿ‡ฐ ๐ŸŒ€ ๐Ÿ‡ฑ ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ฐ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ pawb.social Kolanaki@pawb.social
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Chess has been extensively play tested and the balance is peak.

They still haven't fixed the board flip glitch or the "look over there" exploit that allows you to rearrange the board if your opponent actually looks.

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Akasazh lemmy.world Akasazh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-24
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Can you explain how stalemates would be impossible if you could self-check? Functionally I donโ€™t see how thatโ€™s any different from resigning. You could still stalemate by avoiding check and causing threefold repetition.

If you self-check, your opponents next move is always to take the king and win. Check means 'if it's my turn I can capture your king'.

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Onomatopoeia lemmy.cafe Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
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Why, besides supporting your inability to properly apply the rules of chess?

I mean I absolutely suck at chess (lack of working memory), and it's clear to me that you are correct.

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nocturne slrpnk.net nocturne@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-06-13
#10 · Quote Reply

Had the game not announced this, I wouldn't have known.

Sounds like maybe you need to practice more.

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nocturne slrpnk.net nocturne@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-06-13
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You and your friends can set any rules for any games you play, as long as you agree to the rules together. Sometimes it's fun to try and change the rules.

https://www.sjgames.com/knightmare/

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agamemnonymous sh.itjust.works agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-15
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They still haven't fixed the board flip glitch or the "look over there" exploit that allows you to rearrange the board if your opponent actually looks.

Not to mention that there's nothing in the rules to prevent you from putting a mirror behind your opponent so you can see the location of their pieces

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deegeese sopuli.xyz deegeese@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-09
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If you self-check, your opponents next move is always to take the king and win. Check means 'if it's my turn I can capture your king'.

How is that different from resigning?

The player can still draw by refusing to self check, right?

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thr0w4w4y2 sh.itjust.works thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-03-02
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Chess has been extensively play tested and the balance is peak.

knights are OP and need to be nerfed tbh

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Player2 sopuli.xyz Player2@sopuli.xyz
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#15 · Quote Reply

How is that different from resigning? The player can still draw by refusing to self check, right?

If you refuse to make a move, you resign, you lose.

If you are unable to make a move, it's a stalemate, you do not lose.

It just gives you an extra chance to avoid a total loss by having your opponent make a mistake.

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deegeese sopuli.xyz deegeese@sopuli.xyz
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#16 · Quote Reply

If you refuse to make a move, you resign, you lose. If you are unable to make a move, it's a stalemate, you do not lose. It just gives you an extra chance to avoid a total loss by having your opponent make a mistake.

Got it.

A game that would normally stalemate because the only move is self check becomes a loss because you have a self check available.

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nibbler discuss.tchncs.de nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de
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knights are OP and need to be nerfed tbh

If you think the knights are OP, wait till you find out about the knook!

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KombatWombat lemmy.world KombatWombat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#18 · Quote Reply

Chess has been extensively play tested and the balance is peak.

It's worth mentioning that white has a small but notable advantage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-move_advantage_in_chess

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