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Gavin Newsom backs measure to kill the billionaire tax and ban future wealth taxes
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return2ozma lemmy.world return2ozma@lemmy.world
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TargaryenTKE lemmy.world TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world
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Absolute scumbag

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radiofreebc lemmy.world radiofreebc@lemmy.world
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People like him, HRC and DWS are the reason Bernie wasn't the DNC candidate in 2016...and are why we're in the mess we're in right now.

Trump didn't win in 2016, HRC lost.

They were too scared Bernie would expose their crimes and corruption, and now we're living in the Turd Reich.

EDIT: DWC should have been DWS

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funkforager sh.itjust.works funkforager@sh.itjust.works
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People like him, HRC and DWS are the reason Bernie wasn't the DNC candidate in 2016...and are why we're in the mess we're in right now. Trump didn't win in 2016, HRC lost. They were too scared Bernie would expose their crimes and corruption, and now we're living in the Turd Reich. EDIT: DWC should have been DWS

Who is DWC?

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Bustedknuckles lemmy.world Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world
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Who is DWC?

I think they mean Debbie wasserman-schultz ?

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techmaster7d lemmy.world techmaster7d@lemmy.world
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People like him, HRC and DWS are the reason Bernie wasn't the DNC candidate in 2016...and are why we're in the mess we're in right now. Trump didn't win in 2016, HRC lost. They were too scared Bernie would expose their crimes and corruption, and now we're living in the Turd Reich. EDIT: DWC should have been DWS

LOL. Bernie wasn't the candidate because, brace yourself, he is/was unpopular with the general public. Hillary lost because most people are morons and cannot think for themselves.

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danc4498 lemmy.world danc4498@lemmy.world
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People like him, HRC and DWS are the reason Bernie wasn't the DNC candidate in 2016...and are why we're in the mess we're in right now. Trump didn't win in 2016, HRC lost. They were too scared Bernie would expose their crimes and corruption, and now we're living in the Turd Reich. EDIT: DWC should have been DWS

He reminds me a lot of HRC. We know he exists to run for president, but we know very little about what he actually stands for. We know what he's against.

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inari piefed.zip inari@piefed.zip
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The one good thing here is he's made it clear who's his boss (and it isn't the people)

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MehBlah lemmy.world MehBlah@lemmy.world
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Newsom is a fine example of the kind of democrat that needs to go.

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Cheese_man lemmy.world Cheese_man@lemmy.world
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LOL. Bernie wasn't the candidate because, brace yourself, he is/was unpopular with the general public. Hillary lost because most people are morons and cannot think for themselves.

There's a whole psychology lecture contained in this comment.

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NateNate60 lemmy.world NateNate60@lemmy.world
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People like him, HRC and DWS are the reason Bernie wasn't the DNC candidate in 2016...and are why we're in the mess we're in right now. Trump didn't win in 2016, HRC lost. They were too scared Bernie would expose their crimes and corruption, and now we're living in the Turd Reich. EDIT: DWC should have been DWS

Social democratic policies were also just not as popular in 2016 as they are now. In just a few weeks, a full decade will have passed since 2016.

In 2016, people more or less took American democracy for granted. The voters never knew about the danger that Trump's ideology posed to the republic. This was following eight years of Obama, so right-wingers were thought of as fundamentally just people with bad policy ideas and not people intent on destroying democracy.

Only since then have people really started coming around to social democracy, democratic socialism, and other left-wing ideas. Over time, people have begun to realise, Bernie was right.

It really is too bad that Bernie is so old. He deserves a good retirement, but given the current political climate, he's going to keep fighting for the working class until the bitter end.

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modestmeme lemmy.world modestmeme@lemmy.world
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Taxes need to be raised for the wealthy at the Federal level. Prop 40 is a one time, performative scheme that will spend years in court being struck down. But if it gets you guys to vote, fine.

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gh0stb4tz lemmy.world gh0stb4tz@lemmy.world
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LOL. Bernie wasn't the candidate because, brace yourself, he is/was unpopular with the general public. Hillary lost because most people are morons and cannot think for themselves.

The number of downvotes you received suggests to me that the general public disagrees with you.

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GonzoAtBarstow lemmy.world GonzoAtBarstow@lemmy.world
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Eskimo Bro to a Trump

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mr_rusty_shackleford lemmy.world mr_rusty_shackleford@lemmy.world
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Feel like an outlier here, but creating a billionaire tax at the state level seems ridiculous, and would actually harm the state. It is so easy to move the money outside the jurisdiction of that state to another when you are that wealthy, so the only effective way to implement would be at the federal level. Can someone help me understand why a state level billionaire tax makes sense?

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Eh-I lemmy.world Eh_I@lemmy.world
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LOL. Bernie wasn't the candidate because, brace yourself, he is/was unpopular with the general public. Hillary lost because most people are morons and cannot think for themselves.

"When YOUR thing loses its because it sucks, but when MY thing loses its because everything else sucks."

enlightened shit

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radiofreebc lemmy.world radiofreebc@lemmy.world
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The number of downvotes you received suggests to me that the general public disagrees with you.

Yeah +22 on Lemmy sucks. You got me.

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Hello_there fedia.io Hello_there@fedia.io
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Feel like an outlier here, but creating a billionaire tax at the state level seems ridiculous, and would actually harm the state. It is so easy to move the money outside the jurisdiction of that state to another when you are that wealthy, so the only effective way to implement would be at the federal level. Can someone help me understand why a state level billionaire tax makes sense?

Somebody has to do it, and waiting for the death of the filibuster to have anything get done is a terrible idea

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radiofreebc lemmy.world radiofreebc@lemmy.world
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"When YOUR thing loses its because it sucks, but when MY thing loses its because everything else sucks." enlightened shit
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pdxfed lemmy.world pdxfed@lemmy.world
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Absolute scumbag

Shocking, the guy who was caught at a 2020 dinner party at French Laundry during the pandemic when he had asked Californians to avoid group gatherings for the Thanksgiving holiday.

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AzuranAurora piefed.ca AzuranAurora@piefed.ca
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LOL. Bernie wasn't the candidate because, brace yourself, he is/was unpopular with the general public. Hillary lost because most people are morons and cannot think for themselves.

20 hour old account doing nothing but tossing insults at people? Nothing of value to see here, folks. Block and move on.

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Grimy lemmy.world Grimy@lemmy.world
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If that headline was only the first 8 words, he would have my vote

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
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Feel like an outlier here, but creating a billionaire tax at the state level seems ridiculous, and would actually harm the state. It is so easy to move the money outside the jurisdiction of that state to another when you are that wealthy, so the only effective way to implement would be at the federal level. Can someone help me understand why a state level billionaire tax makes sense?

If it's so easy to move, why are they fighting it?

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Boo! Haunted House! lemmy.world lemmyng@lemmy.world
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zikzak025 lemmy.world zikzak025@lemmy.world
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Gavin realizing he will never be president, so he is trying to secure his future as a Silicon Valley lobbyist.

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dehyzer piefed.social dehyzer@piefed.social
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He reminds me a lot of HRC. We know he exists to run for president, but we know very little about what he actually stands for. We know what he's against.

At first glance I thought "he" was referring to Bernie and my brain started to melt.

On second read, I think you're talking about Newsom. I hope you're taking about Newsom.

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Lodespawn aussie.zone Lodespawn@aussie.zone
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Feel like an outlier here, but creating a billionaire tax at the state level seems ridiculous, and would actually harm the state. It is so easy to move the money outside the jurisdiction of that state to another when you are that wealthy, so the only effective way to implement would be at the federal level. Can someone help me understand why a state level billionaire tax makes sense?

Didn't New York already do it and it proved that billionaires will stay put and not move to a hick backwater just to save a few bucks they wouldnt even notice losing?

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eestileib sh.itjust.works eestileib@sh.itjust.works
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At first glance I thought "he" was referring to Bernie and my brain started to melt. On second read, I think you're talking about Newsom. I hope you're taking about Newsom.

Sadly Bernie's brain has also started to melt. I'm a fan of the guy, but not a fan of him in the Senate any more.

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Reality_Suit lemmy.world Reality_Suit@lemmy.world
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As long as there are different socio-economic classes, it will always be class warfare. Everything will be done to veer the fight away from class warfare. Legitimate causes like feminism and equal rights will be used as distractions to veer away from class warfare. It will always be the mega rich vs everyone else.

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discocactus lemmy.world discocactus@lemmy.world
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Had me in the first half

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Seralth piefed.seralth.com Seralth@piefed.seralth.com
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Sadly Bernie's brain has also started to melt. I'm a fan of the guy, but not a fan of him in the Senate any more.

He's 20 years past his prime sadly.

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tigeruppercut lemmy.zip tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
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He married Kim guilfoil, really says all you need to know about him

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hazard_iguana lemmy.world hazard_iguana@lemmy.world
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Feel like an outlier here, but creating a billionaire tax at the state level seems ridiculous, and would actually harm the state. It is so easy to move the money outside the jurisdiction of that state to another when you are that wealthy, so the only effective way to implement would be at the federal level. Can someone help me understand why a state level billionaire tax makes sense?

You’re not an outlier, but it’s where the current political climate sits. State governments have to do something because the federal government, headed by a facist, has withheld funds from states it deems enemies.

The difference between trying to get rid of a leech on the government and just sitting there and taking it is pretty clear to me. If they leave… so be it, billionaires don’t create jobs, the companies full of employees do. At the point they become billionaires, they are likely trying their hardest to reduce jobs as well.

But also California is a very nice place to live and people want to live here. It’s not like you can just say “I don’t reside in California” and not pay the tax either. The FTB has the 5th largest economy in the world behind it, it will determine if you have residency in CA or not regardless if you say you don’t. And it’s in their best interest to put the time and effort into proving it for the billionaires that want to try.

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mr_rusty_shackleford lemmy.world mr_rusty_shackleford@lemmy.world
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Didn't New York already do it and it proved that billionaires will stay put and not move to a hick backwater just to save a few bucks they wouldnt even notice losing?

What they did is very different. They taxed residential properties not used as primary residences valued over 5 million. The CA tax is a one time 5% tax on the worldwide net worth of billionaires.

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zbyte64 awful.systems zbyte64@awful.systems
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It doesn't. And pretending HRC or Newsom is popular won't save us from fascism either.

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bertlewirth lemmy.world bertlewirth@lemmy.world
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#36 · Quote Reply

I already had no respect for him, but, somehow, I have even less now. You fucking turd.

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Telodzrum lemmy.world Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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#37 · Quote Reply

People like him, HRC and DWS are the reason Bernie wasn't the DNC candidate in 2016...and are why we're in the mess we're in right now. Trump didn't win in 2016, HRC lost. They were too scared Bernie would expose their crimes and corruption, and now we're living in the Turd Reich. EDIT: DWC should have been DWS
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roofuskit lemmy.world roofuskit@lemmy.world
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Let's all be clear, this is him campaigning for president.

What, the, fuck. What goddamn idiots are advising Democratic candidates?

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obvs lemmy.world obvs@lemmy.world
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If you believe that, I've got a nice giant golden bridge to sell you.

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obvs lemmy.world obvs@lemmy.world
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What they did is very different. They taxed residential properties not used as primary residences valued over 5 million. The CA tax is a one time 5% tax on the worldwide net worth of billionaires.

Or, and hear me out, the states that they move to could follow suit and completely negate the ridiculous argument to begin with.

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nullspace lemmy.world nullspace@lemmy.world
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He married Kim guilfoil, really says all you need to know about him

The more I hear about that woman the more I think she is/was an escort.

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Wildmimic anarchist.nexus Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
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Sadly Bernie's brain has also started to melt. I'm a fan of the guy, but not a fan of him in the Senate any more.

He is simply too old. Even if he is the best example of someone who wants to bring people together, after a certain age you can't really understand what the young people are about.

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Wildmimic anarchist.nexus Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
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#43 · Quote Reply

Feel like an outlier here, but creating a billionaire tax at the state level seems ridiculous, and would actually harm the state. It is so easy to move the money outside the jurisdiction of that state to another when you are that wealthy, so the only effective way to implement would be at the federal level. Can someone help me understand why a state level billionaire tax makes sense?

It has been shown multiple times that a few will flee, but many just stay. Depends on how good life is for them in that area, and a highly developed state with a massive GDP will have no problem to stay attractive.

But i agree, making it harder to avoid on a federal level would be better.

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FE80 lemmy.world FE80@lemmy.world
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#44 · Quote Reply

This guy is auditioning for the 2028 Democratic presidential nomination.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#45 · (edited) Quote Reply

he was always there to serve the rich nothing more. even his own father was defending rich people as a lawyer. and thats why he had no influence out of moteray, when he was still in the state congress for a while.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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This guy is auditioning for the 2028 Democratic presidential nomination.

dont think he needs it, the DNC likely determined already. hes just giving himself more exposure so that people vote on him based on recognizability alone. thats also how trump won too, being in MEDIA alot helped him.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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He married Kim guilfoil, really says all you need to know about him

and making this statement around the time her former GF/WIFE is under investigation for accepting bribes. hes there to distract from kims investigation.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#48 · Quote Reply

Feel like an outlier here, but creating a billionaire tax at the state level seems ridiculous, and would actually harm the state. It is so easy to move the money outside the jurisdiction of that state to another when you are that wealthy, so the only effective way to implement would be at the federal level. Can someone help me understand why a state level billionaire tax makes sense?

billionaires arnt going to live in redstate hellholes like missouris/misssipi, unless its an wealthy community, but they wont do businesses there.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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Newsom is a fine example of the kind of democrat that needs to go.

id say hes further right than biden, he makes him look tame in comparison. newsom was willing to entertain right wingers like nick fuentes.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#50 · Quote Reply

Social democratic policies were also just not as popular in 2016 as they are now. In just a few weeks, a full decade will have passed since 2016. In 2016, people more or less took American democracy for granted. The voters never knew about the danger that Trump's ideology posed to the republic. This was following eight years of Obama, so right-wingers were thought of as fundamentally just peopl...

they were blinded by culture war issues, thats why.

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NoneOfUrBusiness fedia.io NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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#51 · (edited) Quote Reply

Let's all be clear, this is him campaigning for president. What, the, fuck. What goddamn idiots are advising Democratic candidates?

Not idiots, or well not just idiots. Representing the interests of the rich is his job with everything else being secondary. This is the default state of a neoliberal regardless of intelligence. The target of this message is American billionaires, not you.

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