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AI’s “Existential Risk” is a Psy-Op
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dumnezero piefed.social dumnezero@piefed.social
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TootSweet Moderator TootSweet@lemmy.world
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Great interview. I need to watch more of Hodes' content.

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moldy_rice piefed.keyboardvagabond.com moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
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AI has already murdered hundreds of thousands of people via Lavendar and the US equivalent.

It's been an existential threat for years.

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SpicyPepper piefed.social SpicyPepper@piefed.social
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AI has already murdered hundreds of thousands of people via Lavendar and the US equivalent. It's been an existential threat for years.

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dumnezero piefed.social dumnezero@piefed.social
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vibebombing

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moldy_rice piefed.keyboardvagabond.com moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
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#6 · Quote Reply

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https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/

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moldy_rice piefed.keyboardvagabond.com moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
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vibebombing

That's a good name for what happened to the school in Minab that murdered hundreds of innocent girls

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boonhet sopuli.xyz boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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AI has already murdered hundreds of thousands of people via Lavendar and the US equivalent. It's been an existential threat for years.

You still need to tell it to find targets. The existential risk they keep trying to sell us is that AI starts acting of its own accord. It really can not, to a significant degree anyway. You can give an agent really vague directions and maybe it'll choose to do something dangerous or illegal, but you can just kill the process at any point and it's done.

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moldy_rice piefed.keyboardvagabond.com moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
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You still need to tell it to find targets. The existential risk they keep trying to sell us is that AI starts acting of its own accord. It really can not, to a significant degree anyway. You can give an agent really vague directions and maybe it'll choose to do something dangerous or illegal, but you can just kill the process at any point and it's done.

Wut? No.

You can absolutely give an AI access to all the phone records, including triangulated GPS positions of the phone, then have it calculate (hallucinations and all) which phones to target.

Then it can trigger an autonomous drone to fly near it and shoot a hellfire missile or a 2,000 lb bomb at the GPS coordinates.

This has already happened (killing children, whether hallucinations or intention) in Palestine and Iran.

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moldy_rice piefed.keyboardvagabond.com moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
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You still need to tell it to find targets. The existential risk they keep trying to sell us is that AI starts acting of its own accord. It really can not, to a significant degree anyway. You can give an agent really vague directions and maybe it'll choose to do something dangerous or illegal, but you can just kill the process at any point and it's done.

The definition of existential is that it's a threat to existence. It's already been used to murder innocent people.

That's the definition of an existential risk.

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SpicyPepper piefed.social SpicyPepper@piefed.social
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https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/

Fuck….

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it_wasnt_arson awful.systems it_wasnt_arson@awful.systems
Joined: 2025-06-13
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The definition of existential is that it's a threat to existence. It's already been used to murder innocent people. That's the definition of an existential risk.

The definition of "existential risk" in question is specifically cult jargon for "could singlehandedly end human civilization and/or the entire species." Autonomous weapon systems, though horrifying and unconscionable, are just fine by most "x-risk" types as long as they're only used against enemies of the state instead of enemies of Skynet.

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moldy_rice piefed.keyboardvagabond.com moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
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Fuck….

There's also a new movie about it, made by the same award winning journalist who wrote this article

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAZA_(film)

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moldy_rice piefed.keyboardvagabond.com moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
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The definition of "existential risk" in question is specifically cult jargon for "could singlehandedly end human civilization and/or the entire species." Autonomous weapon systems, though horrifying and unconscionable, are just fine by most "x-risk" types as long as they're only used against enemies of the state instead of enemies of Skynet.

No. Existential means it kills people. You're moving the goal posts.

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it_wasnt_arson awful.systems it_wasnt_arson@awful.systems
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No. Existential means it kills people. You're moving the goal posts.

I'm not the one moving them, go look at the actual kinds of statements the PR guys make about destroying humanity.

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