Revisionism. Releasing questionable quality because the moneypeople were pushing for it has always happened in the past. People who remember are just less likely to scream online about it.

There's also a healthy dose of survivorship bias. The truly terrible games have faded into obscurity back when I got my first Amiga I played "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" for a few weeks, because that was one of the two pack in games. Guess how many times I have revisited that steaming pile of Tiertex shit since then?

It's just like old music. People have been making music since the dawn of time, and the ratio of good to shit music was relatively constant. The only thing is, shit music tends to be forgotten over time, whereas the greats still survive.

People that are into old music, regardless of the period, are almost by definition listening to a curated bunch of greatest hits. Ditto for retro gaming: the by-the-numbers, derivative or unplayable crap is long forgotten.

I recently bought an N64 and started browsing the Internet with Links via an Apple IIe. Strongly recommend ditching the modern World.

This is the way.

Yes. Crappy games also stayed crappy forever because there were no patches.

Yeah, long before those days.

I have to disagree. The amount of high quality games has never been higher, and there is something for every kind of player available. And i can remember a ton of absolutely awful games from the 90s and 00s.

AAA studios having enshittified doesn't mean that you have to go retro to find a great game.

N64 is an interesting choice for this topic. I love N64 games for the nostalgia, but I think the early 3D generation has aged worse than most video game generations.

I stick mostly to retro games and indie games, these days. The AAA space doesn't hold a lot of appeal to me these days, but I have played so many great recent indie games, and games from smaller development studios.

I stick to indie games because my computer can't handle anything else. On average they're more fun and have a lot more novelty to the compared to the lowest common denominator AAA games.

N64 era 3-D is super nauseating and rough. I genuinely can’t play those games.

I've been playing dk64 on the switch emulator recently, and partially agree. The gameplay has been really fun, but the camera controls are a bit rage inducing. There was 1 mini game I had to do like 20 times to beat, due to the horrible semi fixed camera.

If AAA gaming collapses for a couple years and investment money goes to smaller devs making games with less focus on obscenely detailed graphics and more focus on engaging gameplay and stories, I would be sooooo happy.

The one silver lining from the RAM “crisis” is that more games will be made to use lower resources.

There are a lot of good new games out there too, they're all indie games though. Some of them are built for retro consoles too haha. The NES dev scene is really active

I'm glad someone mentioned survivorship bias. I used to do a fun little "True Random" roulette with some rom packs I had (basically every game ever made prior to PS2) and a vast majority were pretty awful. The challenge we had was to play at least 30 minutes, but that was so rough sometimes.

It's a very good collectathon but I had more fun doing it alongside RetroAchevements. One advantage was the comments on the specific mini games helped because there was sometimes a trick to it (one was literally unplayable on my version, you had to abuse pause to win).

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Finally vindicated.

Yeah. I can deal with graphics of any fidelity but the camera and controls of the early 3D era were rough.

It's tough though, I have played a few games I used to love back in the day over the last few years that are not what I remember at all. Can't help but feel like my struggle is with going back to a gameplay style that's evolved far past the games that are locked in time. I beat Dune 2 with all 3 factions as a teenager, struggled to play it for an hour last year. It's hard to go back to one of the grand daddies of the RTS genre when you have gotten used to modern interfaces, controls, and features.

You got me wondering what happened to Tiertex and I was surprised to find that they were still trading as recently as 2021!

The real cuck energy is never actually playing the games and just watching streamers

I guess the pivot out of gaming meant they continued to trade for 20 years after their last video game project. Good on them.

I think of those things as additional challenges, but it kind of depends on the game. RTS, Dune 2 definitely hasn't aged well compared to Starcraft, for instance. To be fair, Dune 2 is like the first major RTS, though. Lol

But that's partly what I meant by my post, True Random time with my friends is more of a "suffering is content" moment, haha. Playing an FPS with tank controls is infuriating!

I'm personally looking forward to RetroAchevements adding support for MSDOS sometime in the next year, though, because I like the challenge of jank ass games. I'll probably play Dune 2, after I finish all Heroes of Might and Magic 1 and 2, haha.

Same with movies.

It's annoying when you ask someone if they've seen a film you loved. Only for when you start talking about it, they reveal they just watched a Youtube summary and ruined the whole thing for themselves...

I just watch summaries for two reasons

1. I don't have the time to sit down for two or more hours to watch a story that's riddled with plot holes
2. Due to poor sound and visual editing from the last decade, I don't have the patience to squint to see and read everything on subtitles

if I'm going to read anything it's going to be a book or a foreign film that's at least original and edited well.

Gameboy too. There are so many new old games on itch.io.

Yeah, that that GBStudio thing really made gameboy dev super accessible. There's the NESmaker for NES stuff - it's not the best, but it's the easiest thing out there like it lol.

I often scrape itch for new NES stuff. There's an SNES game jam going right now that I'm hoping will bring some fresh stuff to check out.

Yea really it's more a distinction between indie games and AAA games. The indie scene has never been better honestly.

people who have no access to/ really shitty computers:

Why not both?

Why? Then the devs you love would be controlled by investors and shareholders. You won't be likely to get the games you love anymore.

AAA studios already have the ability to fix the problem, they just don't want to:

• Fire more people to reduce studio size, there is no reason to have more than like 150 people, realistically
• Focus on smaller projects that can be developed faster
• Put all the game content in the game at launch
• Smaller game means less dev time and more and better bug fixing
• Make a fun game first, then decide the details

For some reason they think that retaining every single employee and developing impossibly huge games is more important though.

Unaffordable games like Terraria, Celeste, Binding of Isaac, which i got for 5 euro each, or like btd6 which i got for only 1, or like vivid/stasis, unless, catgirl, or dracomaton which i got for free

All of these games are amazing that i have spent over 100 hours playing each(excluding binding of isaac since i got it recently and only have half that, catgirl and unless since they are short games, and dracomaton since it caused by motherboard to melt and am too afraid to open it again

Buddy, Terraria and Binding of Isaac came out in 2011, they are closer to the 90s than they are to the present.

They're retro games.

The real real cuck energy is buying the game on Steam without waiting for a sale, and then watching the let’s play of it

I have a Miyoo Mini Plus, and these homebrew/Game Jam Games are really perfect for it.

I've been playing a pokemon Rom hack called Lazarus, and it feels like a fully featured, modern pokemon game, in a GBA style, without just aping Gen 3 assets. It's a delight to play!

Same with Pico8 games. Getting pico8 to run natively on the Miyoo mini is pretty easy, and there are a ton of really cool, bite-sized little games available for free. A lot of them remind me of old flash games, in their simplicity.

The real real real cuck energy is buying the game on Steam without waiting for a sale, and then watching the let’s play of it while somebody fucks your wife

Those are 7th gen games, and 7th gen is pretty much where modern gaming began.

Saving for being a soyjack meme where "me" is girl :3

The binding of isaac: rebirth is from 2014, repentance+, the latest dlc, has been released in 2024

Terraria is still getting free updates to this day, the last "big" update being released less than 2 months ago

You probably meant to type 2024 as the release for Repentance+

Yes, thanks!

Due to poor sound and visual editing from the last decade

I ain't gonna disagree on this point.

But I will say not knowing about whatever popular franchise isn't a crime. And I'm tired of people pretending like they have to "keep up" with everything even if they have no real interest in it.

Those are two (perfectly valid) reasons for not watching full-length films, but they're not reasons to watch summaries. Watching the summary is worth it if you enjoy that experience, but even as another soul who barely watches any movies I am kind of curious myself to understand the appeal.

There are many movies I don't intend to watch, but then if they are culturally significant I read the plot on Wikipedia.

They could probably retain those employees and just do more games in the same time with advice taken from the rest of your points.

So Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 is a retro game? Skyrim? Battlefield 3? Gears of War 3?

Pull the other one!

You scare me.

Don't forget that the indie game scene exists, even if a sizable portion are just Hollow Knight ripoff for those who couldn't wait until Silksong comes out, and even if it is being flooded by AI slop because of reasons.