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#52 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

He also whinged about the evil of the military industrial complex that he oversaw the permanent creation of. I don't like Ike

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stepan
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#53 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Was it the 60's when there was the parties flipped? I always thought it was the 20's/30's with Hoover and FDR?

Many, 1968 main

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GolfFoxtrotLima
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#54 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Financial obesity is neurotoxic, an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal. Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but trillionaires should be forced to transition into billionaires, and billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

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Sarah Valentine
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#55 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

You win here if you take the L. Accepting corrections shows that you are a serious person who is interested in the truth, not in scoring meaningless victory points. To put it another way, you are acting like Trump. Inability to back down is incredibly weak.

Thanks for telling me to lay down and take revisionist history, .ml user. It's very on brand. Also blocked.

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BeatTakeshi
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#56 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Throwback to this gem in Davos... https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTsWEPTjXXF/

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explodicle
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#57 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Ho ho! There's at least 5 millionaires here, judging by the downvotes!

If we keep electing Republicans, then all of us will become millionaires.

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grue
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#58 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

They weren't an American political party referred to as Conservatives though. Thanks for the supplementary history but maybe try not being so combative with presenting it in the future.

They weren’t an American political party referred to as Conservatives though.

And there still isn't such a thing, so what's your point? Political party name isn't the same as ideology. Are you going to argue that the Nazis were "socialists" next, just because that's what their name claimed?

maybe try not being so combative with presenting it in the future.

Maybe try to debate honestly instead of relying on fallacious semantic arguments and tone-policing.

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Sarah Valentine
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#59 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

They weren’t an American political party referred to as Conservatives though. And there still isn't such a thing, so what's your point? Political party name isn't the same as ideology. Are you going to argue that the Nazis were "socialists" next, just because that's what their name claimed? maybe try not being so combative with presenting it in the future. Maybe try to debate honestly instead o...

And there still isn’t such a thing, so what’s your point?

Republicans. The official party name is Republicans, and they are known very well as "the Conservative party". Sometimes a capital C is actually used.

Get blocked for revisionist history nonsense, as well as misinformation and being a massive hypocrite.

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GalacticSushi
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#60 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Financial obesity is neurotoxic, an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal. Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but trillionaires should be forced to transition into billionaires, and billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

trillionaires should be forced to transition

You want a trillion dollars so that you and all of your descendants can live in the lap of luxury for the rest of time.

I want a trillion dollars so the government will forcefem me.

We are not the same.

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AppleTea
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#61 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

He also whinged about the evil of the military industrial complex that he oversaw the permanent creation of. I don't like Ike

His administration also used the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 to purposefully run highways through black neighborhoods, seizing people's homes and apartments through Eminent Domain.

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AppleTea
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#62 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Many "conservatives" of today shouldn't be called that imho, it's more like they are progressive but in a different direction

That's where the term "reactionary" comes from. It means they want to re-enact the past... or, more usually, a rose-tinted second-hand narrative of a past that never really was.

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KeenFlame
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#63 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Financial obesity is neurotoxic, an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal. Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but trillionaires should be forced to transition into billionaires, and billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

I feel like you have misunderstood what capital punishment means

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grue
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#64 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

And there still isn’t such a thing, so what’s your point? Republicans. The official party name is Republicans, and they are known very well as "the Conservative party". Sometimes a capital C is actually used. Get blocked for revisionist history nonsense, as well as misinformation and being a massive hypocrite.

If you keep blocking everybody who calls out your BS soon you won't have anyone to talk to at all.

The bottom line is that the modern Republican party is truly conservative, in the official Burke and DeMaistre monarchist sense (although they euphemize it as "unitary executive" now), no matter how much you try to pretend they mean the word differently.

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Blue_Morpho
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#65 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

That was when republicans were the progressives and democrats were the conservatives, though. Before the party flip, it makes little sense to refer to ‘republicans’ and ‘democrats’. Those labels changed, not only in their values, but what the ‘conservative’ and ‘progressive’ platforms even were at that time, since there were different crossover issues than in today’s society.

That was when republicans were the progressives.

While there was a party flip on social issues in the 1960's, Republicans from 1910's to today were the party of big business.

Republican's opposed Unions, Labor laws, and the New Deal that created Social Safety nets and helped Labor over Capital.

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daniskarma
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#66 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Does anyone actually know how taxes work in the US? Eisenhower didn't tax millionaires at 90% only the top portion of their income got taxed that high. The US has a progressive tax bracket system, look it up if you want to know more about us taxes than 99.9 percent of US citizens.

I don't know what were the brakets. But a lot of the time, for billionaires, the vast majority of their income gets taxed at the highest bracket. Because the other brackets are too small to even register in their income.

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#67 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Republican party was an idea about affordable housing.

It's the broke ass lazy racist white bros who don't want to do more than mediocre effort and get handed a job over everyone else that thought this idea affordable housing in particular meant only for them. Yet They were easily brainwashed to think it was every other party that caused the lazy white billionaire bros yoinking out affordable housing and not giving them a job.

They still don't see the connection.

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kurwa
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#68 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

A little misleading but the general point is accurate. It was 91% on income >$200k. Adjusted for inflation would be ~$1.7M, according to Politifact. Still not at all a crazy amount of money. I mean that's well into the 1% earners.

If we taxed wealth correctly, billionaires would reach that threshold in a about day, if not faster.

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DarkFuture
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#69 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Republicans aren't conservatives anymore and no one should be calling them that. Regressives is the proper term.

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Rivalarrival
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#70 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Businesses also plowed money back into their companies to make them bigger and thus employed more people.

True, but this is actually the core of the underlying problem. They expanded their ability to extract profit from their customers and workers, while retaining ownership of that ability.

With a 91% tax rate, the company would have a compelling reason to offer ownership shares rather than converting profits to capital. The kind of expansion you're talking about still occurred, but the workers owned it.

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#71 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Republicans aren't conservatives anymore and no one should be calling them that. Regressives is the proper term.

When this MAGA version started 10 years ago, they were called the "alt right". To me, GOP stands for "Gas and Oil Party".

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some_kind_of_guy
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#72 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Republican party was an idea about affordable housing. It's the broke ass lazy racist white bros who don't want to do more than mediocre effort and get handed a job over everyone else that thought this idea affordable housing in particular meant only for them. Yet They were easily brainwashed to think it was every other party that caused the lazy white billionaire bros yoinking out affordable h...

Raised and incentivized for life to ignore the evidence of their eyes and ears.

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Lushed_Lungfish
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#73 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

When this MAGA version started 10 years ago, they were called the "alt right". To me, GOP stands for "Gas and Oil Party".

Nah mate "Group Of Pedophiles".

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#74 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

I feel like you have misunderstood what capital punishment means

Different form of "capital". It probably wasn't a pun, but I'm taking it that way.

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dreamkeeper
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#75 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Looks pretty comprehensive to me. Appreciate it! Though the "Other possible political realignments" section feels a little liberal in its definition of "realignments", what with approximately every other election since 1964 being labeled as a realignment.

Other than Nixon it was a much more gradual change. Even in the 90s you still had deep red states voting for Democrats every now and then, look at all the states Bill Clinton won.

It's only in the 21st century where the realignment finally settled and you can really see where the lines were drawn.

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#76 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Nah mate "Group Of Pedophiles".

Gaslight, Obstruct, Project

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Damage
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#77 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Does anyone actually know how taxes work in the US? Eisenhower didn't tax millionaires at 90% only the top portion of their income got taxed that high. The US has a progressive tax bracket system, look it up if you want to know more about us taxes than 99.9 percent of US citizens.

Your post is useless if you don't mention what the highest tax bracket is.

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DarkCloud
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#78 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Republicans aren't conservatives anymore and no one should be calling them that. Regressives is the proper term.

They're mostly economic libertarians, wealthy Capitalists seeking tax breaks and lobbying, cultists, and fascists.

Quite often they're all of the above.

This is very different to people who genuinely want to improve the conditions of their neighborhoods/families/towns/community/spirituality/nation.

Conservatives let their values be hijacked. They did so willingly to "win"... And now I don't think they exist anymore. They fucked around, found out, now they don't have a party.

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#79 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

The John Birch society accused Eisenhower of being a communist agent, which shows how hilariously paranoid they are.

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#80 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Republicans aren't conservatives anymore and no one should be calling them that. Regressives is the proper term.

This is where conservatism always leads. There's only one genuine ideal held by conservatives, and that's that society should be hierarchical. While most general populace conservatives don't realize it, it's an inherently dishonest ideology because the real driving force is the wealthy who want to become an aristocratic class but realize nobody will just give them that, so they instead direct your attention toward attempts to put someone under you while they quietly elevate themselves. Everything else is just window dressing and distractions. Conservative leaders don't give a shit about abortion or trans rights, but they do care about riling up their base to garner support over stupid shit and distract them from all the pillaging.

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Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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#81 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

2026 Progressives and DSAs are to the right of Eisenhower.

The United States of America has long lost the plot, but then I've been reading up on it's shitty history. It may never have had the plot.

This time, I hope the survivors throw the fucking Ring into the fucking volcano.

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kreskin
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#82 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

2026 Progressives and DSAs are to the right of Eisenhower. The United States of America has long lost the plot, but then I've been reading up on it's shitty history. It may never have had the plot. This time, I hope the survivors throw the fucking Ring into the fucking volcano.

We use plastic Epsteins cock-ring as the ring of power (ROP) now. The real ROP got pawned and the money sent to Israel years ago. We could throw it into a volcano but I hear theres thousands and thousands of those new epstein ROP rings, held by both parties. So another one will just appear. Some say Mossad are still making new pedo ROP cock-rings even now. Why would they stop such a successful scheme, it has changed the world.

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kreskin
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#83 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Throwback to this gem in Davos... https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTsWEPTjXXF/

wow, that was brilliant. never seen that one.

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Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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#84 Posted:   Subject: Re: Yeah it was Eisenhower Quote Reply

Republicans aren't conservatives anymore and no one should be calling them that. Regressives is the proper term.

The argument I hold against conservatism, even classic conservatism is that there are too many people who are miserable, too many people in crisis. And to disregard them, to fail to acknowledge and respond to their state is wrongdoing against humanity.

Of course, post-Nixon conservatism endorsed dehumanizing and disenfranchising the lower strata on the social hierarchy.

MAGA, who disregards everyone not MAGA is the natural progression.

And they don't realize the plutocratic class even unperson them, and will cut even into themselves as they can.

The face-eating leopards come for everyone.

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