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The Picard Maneuver lemmy.world The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world
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DaGeek247 fedia.io DaGeek247@fedia.io
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Fwiw, the ring had an aura of evil, not just a touch-based curse of evil. Boromir was by all accounts a cool guy until being around the ring made him go temporarily fucky in the head.

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Vince lemmy.world Vince@lemmy.world
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Fwiw, the ring had an aura of evil, not just a touch-based curse of evil. Boromir was by all accounts a cool guy until being around the ring made him go temporarily fucky in the head.

So they'd need to figure out the range and adjust the rope?

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DaGeek247 fedia.io DaGeek247@fedia.io
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So they'd need to figure out the range and adjust the rope?

You know, I guess? Worth a shot at least.

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MightyLordJason lemmy.world MightyLordJason@lemmy.world
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I am not a Tolkien scholar, but my understanding is that the would do its evil-ring best to get away from something as weak as a chicken and onto the finger of a more powerful thrall.

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expatriado lemmy.world expatriado@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#6 · Quote Reply

So they'd need to figure out the range and adjust the rope?

"The ring has Bluetooth" - Tolkien

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Klear piefed.world Klear@piefed.world
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I am not a Tolkien scholar, but my understanding is that the would do its evil-ring best to get away from something as weak as a chicken and onto the finger of a more powerful thrall.

A goose, maybe.

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MightyLordJason lemmy.world MightyLordJason@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-02
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A goose, maybe.

Let's not go crazy here. A lion with a gun would probably be up before that much evil.

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lauha lemmy.world lauha@lemmy.world
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So they'd need to figure out the range and adjust the rope?

What if evil is like electricity and 1000 evilvolts of potential gets induced on the rope regardless.

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Jax sh.itjust.works Jax@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-22
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I am not a Tolkien scholar, but my understanding is that the would do its evil-ring best to get away from something as weak as a chicken and onto the finger of a more powerful thrall.

The ring would attract all types to it. Not to mention, Gollum will have a much easier time robbing a chicken than a Hobbit and it isn't like this hyopthetical somehow solves the Gollum problem.

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Remember_the_tooth lemmy.world Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world
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Let's not go crazy here. A lion with a gun would probably be up before that much evil.

A chimpanzee with a machine gun would probably be less dangerous than a goose with the ring. Hell, a goose with the ring might be more dangerous than Sauron with the ring.

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southsamurai (he/him/pronoun agnostic) sh.itjust.works southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-19
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This is obviously cooked up by someone that's never been around chickens

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MightyLordJason lemmy.world MightyLordJason@lemmy.world
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A chimpanzee with a machine gun would probably be less dangerous than a goose with the ring. Hell, a goose with the ring might be more dangerous than Sauron with the ring.

I agree. I think it was trying for a goose when it abandoned Sauron.

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thenextguy sh.itjust.works thenextguy@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-07-01
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This is obviously cooked up by someone that's never been around chickens

Or played Heretic or a few other games.

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SnarkoPolo lemmy.world SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world
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With the power of the One Ring, I shall throw down Colonel Sanders BUCK-BUCK-BUCK!

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BigBoyShuanzee aussie.zone BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone
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Fwiw, the ring had an aura of evil, not just a touch-based curse of evil. Boromir was by all accounts a cool guy until being around the ring made him go temporarily fucky in the head.

It also affects Sam when he's carrying Frodo in his back but Sam is so humble and modest that what the ring offers him he has no interest in.

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_stranger_ lemmy.world _stranger_@lemmy.world
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Well, in the Sillmarillion, Lluvatar tells Melkor "Nice try fucking up my song, but I thought of that, watch:" and then middle earth was made.

It's my theory that hobbits were Lluvatar's answer to Melkors machinations.

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Chee_Koala lemmy.world Chee_Koala@lemmy.world
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What if evil is like electricity and 1000 evilvolts of potential gets induced on the rope regardless.

use the elf anti (evil)static rope.

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Remember_the_tooth lemmy.world Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world
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I agree. I think it was trying for a goose when it abandoned Sauron.

I love that interpretation. Sauron created a weapon too powerful for even him to control. It betrayed him and made it's way to the shire, looking for a goose.

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Chee_Koala lemmy.world Chee_Koala@lemmy.world
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Yeah, I've seen this version. It doesn't end well for the chicken

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TootSweet lemmy.world TootSweet@lemmy.world
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The moment you put the ring around the chicken's ankle, there's a "poof" sound and cloud of smoke. When the smoke clears, there stands Sauron with the ring on his finger screaming "you thought I was just a chicken but it was me all along!"

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dohpaz42 lemmy.world dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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What if evil is like electricity and 1000 evilvolts of potential gets induced on the rope regardless.

Resistors and capacitors exist for a reason. 😊

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dohpaz42 lemmy.world dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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The ring would attract all types to it. Not to mention, Gollum will have a much easier time robbing a chicken than a Hobbit and it isn't like this hyopthetical somehow solves the Gollum problem.

Now I’m imagining a scene where Gollum is robbing a chicken, and then attacked by a hoard of chickens from off-screen (LoZ style).

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Natanael infosec.pub Natanael@infosec.pub
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I love that interpretation. Sauron created a weapon too powerful for even him to control. It betrayed him and made it's way to the shire, looking for a goose.

This is what lead to to Untitled Goose Game.

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Natanael infosec.pub Natanael@infosec.pub
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Now I’m imagining a scene where Gollum is robbing a chicken, and then attacked by a hoard of chickens from off-screen (LoZ style).

Link of the Zelda style?

Link attacked by chickens

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arctanthrope lemmy.world arctanthrope@lemmy.world
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It also affects Sam when he's carrying Frodo in his back but Sam is so humble and modest that what the ring offers him he has no interest in.

it's not mentioned having any effect while he carries Frodo up the mountain, the part where he's tempted is when he's carrying it directly, while Frodo is captured by the orcs in the Tower of Cirith Ungol.

He had feared that he would have barely the strength to lift his master alone, and beyond that he had expected to share in the dreadful dragging weight of the accursed Ring. But it was not so. Whether because Frodo was so worn by his long pains... or because some gift of final strength was given to him, Sam lifted Frodo with no more difficulty than if he was carrying a hobbit-child pig-a-back in some romp on the lawns or hayfields of the Shire.

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ParlimentOfDoom piefed.zip ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip
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The ring isn't just inert. It's constantly trying to return to Sauron. It would be trying to get that chicken to leave, or drop it somewhere. How many times did the group get caught in some chaotic battle or had to run from something.

Or hide... You can bet that ring is gonna make the chicken start making noise if there's an army of orcs sniffing around

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ParlimentOfDoom piefed.zip ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip
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Well, in the Sillmarillion, Lluvatar tells Melkor "Nice try fucking up my song, but I thought of that, watch:" and then middle earth was made. It's my theory that hobbits were Lluvatar's answer to Melkors machinations.

An answer that took 3 entire epochs, and major world wars to come into play?

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MimicJar lemmy.world MimicJar@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
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I am not a Tolkien scholar, but my understanding is that the would do its evil-ring best to get away from something as weak as a chicken and onto the finger of a more powerful thrall.

I mean The Ring chilled with Gollum for a long time. To The Ring I'm sure a chicken and Gollum were about an equal level of weakness. It's also said that The Ring abandoned Gollum, as in it made a choice.

Although it didn't seem to be in much of a hurry, since The Ring stayed with Bilbo for a while.

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_stranger_ lemmy.world _stranger_@lemmy.world
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An answer that took 3 entire epochs, and major world wars to come into play?

Yep. The song is basically the "script" all of reality follows, and only Lluvatar knows the whole story.

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ByteJunk lemmy.world ByteJunk@lemmy.world
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The reply is damn spot on, the whole of middle earth was terrified of it falling into the hands of almost anyone - if they were powerful enough, they'd become a new Sauron, if weak enough they'd be virtually enslaved by the ring and made to return it to the dark lord.

A hobbit was literally around the threat level of a chicken, with the added bonus of being thick skulled enough for the ring to have a hard time influencing them...

Granted, Frodo was much more seriously affected than Bilbo, but Sauron had regained much power by then, they were much closer having travelled into Mordor itself, Frodo was physically and emotionally debilitated during a big part of the trip, and he was fully aware of the burden he was carrying. Finally, the ring actively fought back as they approached Mount Doom, becoming heavier and aggressively trying to corrupt Frodo.

The boys did good there.

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Dagnet lemmy.world Dagnet@lemmy.world
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#32 · Quote Reply

Or played Heretic or a few other games.

Like Zelda

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Funkt4st1c lemmy.world Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world
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Well, in the Sillmarillion, Lluvatar tells Melkor "Nice try fucking up my song, but I thought of that, watch:" and then middle earth was made. It's my theory that hobbits were Lluvatar's answer to Melkors machinations.

Im imagining melkor hitting the ol "Oh, Eru!" (Badum ba, dum) sitcom special

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VindictiveJudge lemmy.world VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world
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#34 · Quote Reply

The ring isn't just inert. It's constantly trying to return to Sauron. It would be trying to get that chicken to leave, or drop it somewhere. How many times did the group get caught in some chaotic battle or had to run from something. Or hide... You can bet that ring is gonna make the chicken start making noise if there's an army of orcs sniffing around

It would also have been tempting everyone around it, like it did Boromir.

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ByteJunk lemmy.world ByteJunk@lemmy.world
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Fwiw, the ring had an aura of evil, not just a touch-based curse of evil. Boromir was by all accounts a cool guy until being around the ring made him go temporarily fucky in the head.

I don't see it as an "aura", more as an almost sentient being, that is capable of subtly pulling at people's desires - Tolkien writes that Sauron transferred his will to dominate and his malice into the ring, along with most of his power, so it makes sense to me that it would be capable of playing an active role in corrupting people, not just as some "blanket AoE curse".

For Boromir the ring acted as a psychological amplification of his own noble but desperate intentions. The Ring didnt create evil feelings out of nothing; instead, it acted as a corrupting mirror for his existing burdens.

It briefly did the same to Gandalf and Galadriel, but thankfully both were able to resist its pull - maybe carrying a ring of power themselves helped them...

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Akasazh lemmy.world Akasazh@lemmy.world
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#36 · Quote Reply

A goose, maybe.

Or multiple eagles?

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Akasazh lemmy.world Akasazh@lemmy.world
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'Welcome to Mordor Fried Hobbits, can I take your order?'

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tamal3 lemmy.world tamal3@lemmy.world
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#38 · Quote Reply

The ring isn't just inert. It's constantly trying to return to Sauron. It would be trying to get that chicken to leave, or drop it somewhere. How many times did the group get caught in some chaotic battle or had to run from something. Or hide... You can bet that ring is gonna make the chicken start making noise if there's an army of orcs sniffing around

Having chased the chickens in Zelda OoT, I could imagine this quest going quite poorly.

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[object Object] lemmy.ca panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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it's not mentioned having any effect while he carries Frodo up the mountain, the part where he's tempted is when he's carrying it directly, while Frodo is captured by the orcs in the Tower of Cirith Ungol. He had feared that he would have barely the strength to lift his master alone, and beyond that he had expected to share in the dreadful dragging weight of the accursed Ring. But it was not so...

This feels like it calls back to the Hobbit in two ways:

When Gollum réalises he’s lost the ring he fears he can’t hunt anymore nor escape past the ever-guarded goblin gates, he succumbs to that fear and weeps.

When Bilbo wears it he is able to jump cleanly over Gollum’s head, finding a strength he never would have had, and so easily he never even questions it.

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troglodytis lemmy.world troglodytis@lemmy.world
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#40 · Quote Reply

You greatly underestimate the power of nature

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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It would also have been tempting everyone around it, like it did Boromir.

Who wants fried chicken?

-Colonel Gandalf

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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#42 · Quote Reply

use the elf anti (evil)static rope.

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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#43 · Quote Reply

It also affects Sam when he's carrying Frodo in his back but Sam is so humble and modest that what the ring offers him he has no interest in.

Should have tried potatoes

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Tja programming.dev Tja@programming.dev
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#44 · Quote Reply

The ring isn't just inert. It's constantly trying to return to Sauron. It would be trying to get that chicken to leave, or drop it somewhere. How many times did the group get caught in some chaotic battle or had to run from something. Or hide... You can bet that ring is gonna make the chicken start making noise if there's an army of orcs sniffing around

Ok, evil snail it is.

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FrChazzz lemmus.org FrChazzz@lemmus.org
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The reply is damn spot on, the whole of middle earth was terrified of it falling into the hands of almost anyone - if they were powerful enough, they'd become a new Sauron, if weak enough they'd be virtually enslaved by the ring and made to return it to the dark lord. A hobbit was literally around the threat level of a chicken, with the added bonus of being thick skulled enough for the ring to ...

He also got stabbed by the Witch King, which I’m sure had an effect bonus on the ring’s influence over him.

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brem sh.itjust.works brem@sh.itjust.works
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#46 · Quote Reply

Fwiw, the ring had an aura of evil, not just a touch-based curse of evil. Boromir was by all accounts a cool guy until being around the ring made him go temporarily fucky in the head.

fucky in the head.

Pipin..let's go, smokes

...btw, what's the radius of AOE for this ring? We talkin' maybe some of the faster fish in Golem's nook might've gotten away and become a giant squid monster in a pond outside of a magic door? Or just a radiated warmth for anti-Maiar such as Balrogs?

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brem sh.itjust.works brem@sh.itjust.works
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#47 · Quote Reply

So they'd need to figure out the range and adjust the rope?

Creates faraday cage made of pumice from Mt. Doom

Harnesses power of the one ring using a series of severed fingers connected to a palantir via two blue wizards tied up in my basement.

Uses surveillance footage to release "The Burning of The Shire"

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BigBoyShuanzee aussie.zone BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone
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#48 · Quote Reply

Should have tried potatoes

What's Taters?

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brem sh.itjust.works brem@sh.itjust.works
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It also affects Sam when he's carrying Frodo in his back but Sam is so humble and modest that what the ring offers him he has no interest in.

...and so the ring did see Sam's greed, rosebushes the size of trees....and the ring was so overcome by Sam's loyalty and pureness of heart; for a moment it too wanted a garden. Against the hatred and greed of Sauron, the impurities within the ring thought (if only for a second)...

....rosebud ;)

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bedwyr piefed.ca bedwyr@piefed.ca
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#50 · Quote Reply

The hobbits were not chickens though, they were amongst the bravest, just not as capable of violence.

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bedwyr piefed.ca bedwyr@piefed.ca
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#51 · Quote Reply

Well, in the Sillmarillion, Lluvatar tells Melkor "Nice try fucking up my song, but I thought of that, watch:" and then middle earth was made. It's my theory that hobbits were Lluvatar's answer to Melkors machinations.

Melkor was such a dick.

Parts of the story don't make sense though. They didn't have the sun for a long time. Melkor built them like a palace out of ice that later melted, shit like that.

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