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tardigrade
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LocalAreaMan
lemmy.ml
LocalAreaMan@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-10-13 |
I'm so tired of this propaganda. "Shadow fleet" and "false flag" are the "oligarchs" we call "job creators". Every nation uses other flags.
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decolo
piefed.social
decolo@piefed.social Joined: 2026-06-29 |
I'm so tired of this propaganda. "Shadow fleet" and "false flag" are the "oligarchs" we call "job creators". Every nation uses other flags.
The shipping industry is killing the planet, and the ships transporting sanctioned Russian oil are some of the worst. Their crews are often effectively enslaved |
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LocalAreaMan
lemmy.ml
LocalAreaMan@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-10-13 |
The shipping industry is killing the planet, and the ships transporting sanctioned Russian oil are some of the worst. Their crews are often effectively enslaved
That sounds totally true and not something you just made up at all. No need to cite anything. I completely believe you. I feel smarter just reading this. |
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decolo
piefed.social
decolo@piefed.social Joined: 2026-06-29 |
That sounds totally true and not something you just made up at all. No need to cite anything. I completely believe you. I feel smarter just reading this.
It's well known to anyone who has been paying attention. Out of spite, and just for the benefit of anyone else who might be reading this, I'll cite some sources. I look forward to your comments on how these sources are biased. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_shadow_fleet One point in your favor:
The tankers are often old and unmaintained:
https://www.source-material.org/russia-oil-shadow-fleet-crew-sanctions/ This discusses the conditions for the crews.
There are many similar reports from other sources. Unfortunately for our discussion, none of them are neutral or pro-kremlin so I suspect they won't do much to change your mind. Have a nice day and иди на хуй |
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aldhissla
piefed.world
aldhissla@piefed.world Joined: 2025-08-26 |
It's well known to anyone who has been paying attention. Out of spite, and just for the benefit of anyone else who might be reading this, I'll cite some sources. I look forward to your comments on how these sources are biased. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_shadow_fleet One point in your favor: "the terms shadow fleet, dark fleet, and grey fleet do not have a consistent definition and ar...
I wholeheartedly agree with your post, especially the last sentence. With every new tankie post, not defederating from them is becoming more and more of a clear stance in favour of normalising advocating for murderers. |
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bedwyr
piefed.ca
bedwyr@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-03-23 |
The shipping industry is killing the planet, and the ships transporting sanctioned Russian oil are some of the worst. Their crews are often effectively enslaved
I hear slavery is not uncommon in the shipping industry. Especially in South Asia. |
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LocalAreaMan
lemmy.ml
LocalAreaMan@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-10-13 |
It's well known to anyone who has been paying attention. Out of spite, and just for the benefit of anyone else who might be reading this, I'll cite some sources. I look forward to your comments on how these sources are biased. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_shadow_fleet One point in your favor: "the terms shadow fleet, dark fleet, and grey fleet do not have a consistent definition and ar...
This sounds like you're simply describing capitalists in every single capitalist nation everywhere. |
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decolo
piefed.social
decolo@piefed.social Joined: 2026-06-29 |
This sounds like you're simply describing capitalists in every single capitalist nation everywhere.
I genuinely can't argue with that. valid point |
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LocalAreaMan
lemmy.ml
LocalAreaMan@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-10-13 |
I genuinely can't argue with that. valid point
Then I think we both want the same thing, a future.🤝 |
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Malica
lemmy.zip
Malica@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-08-27 |
It's well known to anyone who has been paying attention. Out of spite, and just for the benefit of anyone else who might be reading this, I'll cite some sources. I look forward to your comments on how these sources are biased. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_shadow_fleet One point in your favor: "the terms shadow fleet, dark fleet, and grey fleet do not have a consistent definition and ar...
Mamka ti ;) |
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Malica
lemmy.zip
Malica@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-08-27 |
Bulgaria is a member of NATO so they're actively attacking in NATO territory now. I'm glad Bulgaria isn't toeing the Russian stooge line as had been expected. |
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