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return2ozma lemmy.world return2ozma@lemmy.world
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MaxLemminist lemmy.ml MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml
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pulsewidth lemmy.world pulsewidth@lemmy.world
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This is just a taste of foreshadowing for when the government comes in with wads of cash to bail out the more loyal owners of AI datacenters when the bubble pops.

It'll all pivot to running the surveillance nightmare they're already building.

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eldavi lemmy.ml eldavi@lemmy.ml
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This is just a taste of foreshadowing for when the government comes in with wads of cash to bail out the more loyal owners of AI datacenters when the bubble pops. It'll all pivot to running the surveillance nightmare they're already building.

It’ll all pivot to running the surveillance nightmare they’re already building.

it's not a pivot, it's the primary goal -- everything else is just the excuse for building it since they've learned that people are going to be demanding more as the capitalism further erodes into fascism.

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ZeroHora lemmy.ml ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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Good waste money with domestic bullshit and less money into foreign bloodshed.

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CapuccinoCoretto lemmy.world CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world
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Good waste money with domestic bullshit and less money into foreign bloodshed.

Are you or anyone else is the world using any American tech? Then it impact you directly.

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
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Are you or anyone else is the world using any American tech? Then it impact you directly.

I'm not sure how deploying intelligence contractors to cities across the US will impact anyone outside the US.

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CapuccinoCoretto lemmy.world CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world
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I'm not sure how deploying intelligence contractors to cities across the US will impact anyone outside the US.

Rough. I just explained it. Are you using any US tech? If so, you are in the surveilance apparatus regardless.

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ZeroHora lemmy.ml ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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Are you or anyone else is the world using any American tech? Then it impact you directly.

American tech spying is nothing new, the elections in my country are already been impacted with american social media, wasting money to target usians for a change is still positive to me.

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
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Rough. I just explained it. Are you using any US tech? If so, you are in the surveilance apparatus regardless.

But how does deploying intelligence contractors to cities specifically impact people outside the US? People outside the US are being surveilled, for sure, but I don't think there's any difference before or after deploying a contractor to Portland or whatever.

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CapuccinoCoretto lemmy.world CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world
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But how does deploying intelligence contractors to cities specifically impact people outside the US? People outside the US are being surveilled, for sure, but I don't think there's any difference before or after deploying a contractor to Portland or whatever.

Because once they have complete control domestically, they will turn outward in a way not seen before.

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CapuccinoCoretto lemmy.world CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world
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American tech spying is nothing new, the elections in my country are already been impacted with american social media, wasting money to target usians for a change is still positive to me.

Sorry you can't see the bigger picture.

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
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Because once they have complete control domestically, they will turn outward in a way not seen before.

You have it entirely backwards. They were already facing outward, fascism is imperialist repression turned inward.

Amerika's chickens are coming home to roost.

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CapuccinoCoretto lemmy.world CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world
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You have it entirely backwards. They were already facing outward, fascism is imperialist repression turned inward. Amerika's chickens are coming home to roost.

Outwardly, they were restrained. You'll see something new. Enjoy your shadenfreude, I hope it isn't too short lived.

Your opinion makes as much sense in the context of 1934 Germany, as it does in today's USA.

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ZeroHora lemmy.ml ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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Sorry you can't see the bigger picture.

classic

Fucking gringo.

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挂路灯人 lemmy.ml gualudengren@lemmy.ml
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Outwardly, they were restrained. You'll see something new. Enjoy your shadenfreude, I hope it isn't too short lived. Your opinion makes as much sense in the context of 1934 Germany, as it does in today's USA.

Outwardly, they were restrained

Amerika was so restrained in destroying multiple countries, funding multiple genocides, running decades long kidnapping and torture operations, funding neocolonialism, etc. Only privileged EuroAmerikans could be this disconnected from reality.

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CapuccinoCoretto lemmy.world CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world
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Outwardly, they were restrained Amerika was so restrained in destroying multiple countries, funding multiple genocides, running decades long kidnapping and torture operations, funding neocolonialism, etc. Only privileged EuroAmerikans could be this disconnected from reality.

Can you really not see them getting worse?

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挂路灯人 lemmy.ml gualudengren@lemmy.ml
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Can you really not see them getting worse?

It is getting worse...

for Amerikans (and US imperial lapdogs).

But I hate to be the one to break it to you that is simply the consequences of the systems they have in place. Fascism is just the teeth of imperialism coming home to make up for the tendency for rate of profit to fall and the liberation of the periphery.

For most of the world Amerika(and it's lapdogs although making the distinction between a king and it's vassals is slightly meaningless) has been the most evil empire on earth for decades (if not longer) and currently things are infact improving as multipolarity becomes more and more real.

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
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Outwardly, they were restrained. You'll see something new. Enjoy your shadenfreude, I hope it isn't too short lived. Your opinion makes as much sense in the context of 1934 Germany, as it does in today's USA.

Yeah, we will see something new.

We'll see the US lose, and then continue to turn imperialist repression inward. Iran is going to win, Russia is going to win, China is going to win, and there's nothing the US can do about it. Fewer and fewer people around the world will use US tech, so the repression will crank up on the people who keep using it. Eventually that's just going to be the US and its closest allies.

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CapuccinoCoretto lemmy.world CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world
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Yeah, we will see something new. We'll see the US lose, and then continue to turn imperialist repression inward. Iran is going to win, Russia is going to win, China is going to win, and there's nothing the US can do about it. Fewer and fewer people around the world will use US tech, so the repression will crank up on the people who keep using it. Eventually that's just going to be the US and it...

I get the hate for the US. I just find it strange how you think a hegemon going from bad to worse is good for anyone.

I'm also calling on bad faith arguments for denouncing American imperialism yet cheering for Russian imperialism. Hypocrisy isn't a strong argument.

Also, it's closest "allies" is a very loaded term today. No one trusts a rogue hegemon.

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
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I get the hate for the US. I just find it strange how you think a hegemon going from bad to worse is good for anyone. I'm also calling on bad faith arguments for denouncing American imperialism yet cheering for Russian imperialism. Hypocrisy isn't a strong argument. Also, it's closest "allies" is a very loaded term today. No one trusts a rogue hegemon.

I never made any value claims about anything being "good" or "bad" actually. I'm merely telling you the trajectory of history.

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MaxLemminist lemmy.ml MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml
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Sorry you can't see the bigger picture.

The bigger picture is the world benefiting from that cancerous shithole destroying itself.

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CapuccinoCoretto lemmy.world CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world
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The bigger picture is the world benefiting from that cancerous shithole destroying itself.

We'll see.

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MaxLemminist lemmy.ml MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml
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We'll see.

I am seeing it and enjoying it to the fullest

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gecko lemmy.ml Fancy_Gecko@lemmy.ml
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Because once they have complete control domestically, they will turn outward in a way not seen before.

i think you have it backwards

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SnarkoPolo lemmy.world SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world
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At least we're not socialist.

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