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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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#2 · Quote Reply

"Wait, wait... stop... STOP!"

"Now, who's carrying the DUCK banner, and who's carrying t'other?"

(insert Monty Python, please)

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schipelblorp sh.itjust.works schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-16
#3 · Quote Reply

Fun fact: Allah means God.

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NeatNit discuss.tchncs.de NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2024-01-05
#4 · Quote Reply

Fun fact: Allah means God.

More than that: Judaism, Christianity and Islam all believe in the same god and the same creation story (more or less). Not to mention, different denominations within each religion (e.g. Catholic, Protestant for Christianity). It seems these shared beliefs don't really contribute to any kind of peace.

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username_1 discuss.tchncs.de username_1@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2026-06-01
#5 · Quote Reply

It took me ~10 seconds to figure out how those banners work. Nice.

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schipelblorp sh.itjust.works schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-16
#6 · (edited) Quote Reply

More than that: Judaism, Christianity and Islam all believe in the same god and the same creation story (more or less). Not to mention, different denominations within each religion (e.g. Catholic, Protestant for Christianity). It seems these shared beliefs don't really contribute to any kind of peace.

I'm trying to get away from my radical atheist days, but monotheism specifically seems to definitively not play well with others.

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cattywampas lemmy.world cattywampas@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-30
#7 · Quote Reply

More than that: Judaism, Christianity and Islam all believe in the same god and the same creation story (more or less). Not to mention, different denominations within each religion (e.g. Catholic, Protestant for Christianity). It seems these shared beliefs don't really contribute to any kind of peace.

What does it mean to believe in the "same god" if god isn't real?

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Gorilladrums lemmy.world Gorilladrums@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-19
#8 · Quote Reply

This is unironically the case in the muslim world today. Different groups killing each other in the bloodiest ways over the most miniscule differences.

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NoneOfUrBusiness fedia.io NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-06-13
#9 · Quote Reply

More than that: Judaism, Christianity and Islam all believe in the same god and the same creation story (more or less). Not to mention, different denominations within each religion (e.g. Catholic, Protestant for Christianity). It seems these shared beliefs don't really contribute to any kind of peace.

It seems these shared beliefs don't really contribute to any kind of peace.

I mean, that's because very few conflicts are fought over religion on its own. It's usually part of a larger fight, at which point the larger fight will need to be resolved even if both sides believe in similar religions. Besides, since peace is the absence of conflict, it's always going to be impossible to tell if it contributing to some kind of peace because you can't know which conflicts aren't being fought. You can always have more race religion wars.

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Diplomjodler lemmy.world Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-08
#10 · Quote Reply

This is unironically the case in the muslim world today. Different groups killing each other in the bloodiest ways over the most miniscule differences.

The Thirty Year War was quite a while ago but until fairly recently there was real animosity between Catholics and Protestants in Germany.

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Ephera lemmy.ml Ephera@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-05-31
#11 · Quote Reply

What does it mean to believe in the "same god" if god isn't real?

Well, they all accept the book Old Testament as canon, they just disagree on which fan theory correctly continues that story.

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schipelblorp sh.itjust.works schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-16
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It seems these shared beliefs don't really contribute to any kind of peace. I mean, that's because very few conflicts are fought over religion on its own. It's usually part of a larger fight, at which point the larger fight will need to be resolved even if both sides believe in similar religions. Besides, since peace is the absence of conflict, it's always going to be impossible to tell if it c...

I think you're ignoring the importance of religious identity as the definitive motivating factor in a lot conflict, but I agree that sometimes it plays a more minor role.

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Catoblepas lemmy.blahaj.zone Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-06-13
#13 · Quote Reply

Fun fact: Allah means God.

Christians and Jewish people that pray in Arabic also pray to Allah. Western Christians really don’t like that.

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NoneOfUrBusiness fedia.io NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-06-13
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I think you're ignoring the importance of religious identity as the definitive motivating factor in a lot conflict, but I agree that sometimes it plays a more minor role.

I mean, examples? Pretty much every ostensibly religious example I can think of off the top of my head is fundamentally driven by something else. Now that doesn't make religion unimportant in these conflicts, but it's not definitive and it's entirely possible and/or likely other fault lines would've been found instead.

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Sundray lemmus.org sundray@lemmus.org
Joined: 2023-12-19
#15 · Quote Reply

Pfft, losers. Old Woman God is better than both of these!

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Tempus Fugit lemmy.world Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-18
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This is unironically the case in the muslim world today. Different groups killing each other in the bloodiest ways over the most miniscule differences.

Yup, which is extremely similar to Christians and their "European wars of religion" that had them slaughtering each other for hundreds of years, and more recently "the Troubles" until 1998.

Jews aren't above it either, though their examples are more biblical and not nearly the same body count. The Samaritans and the schism that turned into Christianity come to mind.

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Midnight Wolf lemmy.world wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-23
#17 · Quote Reply

I'm trying to get away from my radical atheist days, but monotheism specifically seems to definitively not play well with others.

radical atheist

"hello, have you heard about our savior, 'just not being an asshole'?"

door slams

"obviously fucking not"

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marcos lemmy.world marcos@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#18 · Quote Reply

"Wait, wait... stop... STOP!" "Now, who's carrying the DUCK banner, and who's carrying t'other?" (insert Monty Python, please)

The guy in the lower side of the image is the one talking.

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Tattorack lemmy.world Tattorack@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-28
#19 · Quote Reply

Pfft, losers. Old Woman God is better than both of these!

Man!

And I'm 37!

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Tempus Fugit lemmy.world Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-18
#20 · Quote Reply

I mean, examples? Pretty much every ostensibly religious example I can think of off the top of my head is fundamentally driven by something else. Now that doesn't make religion unimportant in these conflicts, but it's not definitive and it's entirely possible and/or likely other fault lines would've been found instead.

The European wars of religion?

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NeatNit discuss.tchncs.de NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2024-01-05
#21 · Quote Reply

radical atheist "hello, have you heard about our savior, 'just not being an asshole'?" door slams "obviously fucking not"

If you don't think there is such a thing as radical atheism, you might be in a radically atheistic echo chamber. There absolutely is a way to take it too far. For example, thinking that all religions should be abolished forever.

Personally I am also an atheist bordering on radical :D

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aksdb lemmy.world aksdb@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-17
#22 · Quote Reply

It took me ~10 seconds to figure out how those banners work. Nice.

I still don’t get it. Look completely identical besides orientation. But both look like duck to me.

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dhork lemmy.world dhork@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#23 · Quote Reply

I still don’t get it. Look completely identical besides orientation. But both look like duck to me.

The duck's bill becomes the rabbit's ears and then the rabbit is looking the other way (and you can't see its mouth)

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aksdb lemmy.world aksdb@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-17
#24 · Quote Reply

The duck's bill becomes the rabbit's ears and then the rabbit is looking the other way (and you can't see its mouth)

🤦‍♂️now I see it. Thank you!

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dufkm lemmy.world dufkm@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-10
#25 · Quote Reply

Man! And I'm 37!

Well I can't just call you "man"

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OBJECTION! lemmy.ml Objection@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-04-30
#26 · (edited) Quote Reply

What does it mean to believe in the "same god" if god isn't real?

Batman isn't real either, and has had different interpretations over the years, but all Batman fans are fans of the same character regardless of which version of Batman they prefer.

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NaibofTabr infosec.pub NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-06-18
#27 · Quote Reply

"Wait, wait... stop... STOP!" "Now, who's carrying the DUCK banner, and who's carrying t'other?" (insert Monty Python, please)

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hakunawazo lemmy.world hakunawazo@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-02
#28 · (edited) Quote Reply

They need to update their banners.

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Soggy lemmy.world Soggy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#29 · Quote Reply

If you don't think there is such a thing as radical atheism, you might be in a radically atheistic echo chamber. There absolutely is a way to take it too far. For example, thinking that all religions should be abolished forever. Personally I am also an atheist bordering on radical :D

I'd rather educate religion away than oppress it, but I do think we'd be better off without any kind of supernatural belief. I know that's a radical, extreme position.

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errer lemmy.world errer@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#30 · Quote Reply

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morto piefed.social morto@piefed.social
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#31 · Quote Reply

They need to update their banners.

That one is creepy!

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Ayutsu lemmy.zip AyuTsukasa@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-09
#32 · Quote Reply

They need to update their banners.

What else am I supposed to see besides a lady with a hat?

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Noodle07 lemmy.world Noodle07@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-20
#33 · Quote Reply

What else am I supposed to see besides a lady with a hat?

An old lady with a hat

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villainy lemmy.world villainy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
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What else am I supposed to see besides a lady with a hat?

It's young lady with a hat facing away and an old lady with a hat facing to the side. Young lady's ear is old lady's eye, young lady's nose is a mole-like bump on old lady's nose, and so on. Never liked this one personally, the old lady is too much of a stretch for my brain to accept.

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BlueOysterCultist lemmy.zip BlueOysterCultist@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-06-12
#35 · Quote Reply

The duck's bill becomes the rabbit's ears and then the rabbit is looking the other way (and you can't see its mouth)

Did you just compare my Duck to the heathens Rabbit? BLASPHEMER!

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blackberry28 sh.itjust.works blackberry28@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-07-29
#36 · Quote Reply

This is unironically the case in the muslim world today. Different groups killing each other in the bloodiest ways over the most miniscule differences.

"Today"

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zeejoo thelemmy.club zeejoo@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2026-03-13
#37 · Quote Reply

Yup, which is extremely similar to Christians and their "European wars of religion" that had them slaughtering each other for hundreds of years, and more recently "the Troubles" until 1998. Jews aren't above it either, though their examples are more biblical and not nearly the same body count. The Samaritans and the schism that turned into Christianity come to mind.

The troubles definitely had religious overtones and justifications, but it was a war about colonial control and cultural repression. You'd be hard pressed to find a British soldier who was fighting to defend protestantism instead of "the empire" or the queen, and you'd be hard pressed to find an IRA member who cared more about Catholic dominance in Ireland than independence.

The wars of religion basically used religion as a cudgel in a fight to dominate Europe and over tensions between the power centers of the Vatican and European royal courts. Entirely political but with religious marketing and pageantry.

Even the Sunni/Shia conflict, most Sunnis and Shias around the world have no issue with each other. Most of the time there's violence assigned to sectarianism, it's just like Ireland and Europe, that sectarian divide is inflamed by bad actors instigating artificial tensions and then using them to justify political and economic conquest. ISIS wanted to get rich by snapping up all the oil fields in a largely lawless region. Iran wants regional political dominance and economic control over the straight of hormuz. Israel wants to control the entire Middle East apparently. All of them have religious overtones to the conflict but the religion isn't the reason for the conflict.

The last real religious wars were the crusades. Europe stood to gain nothing but "God's favor" by taking back the holy land, it was nothing but a burden to repeatedly invade and fund intermittently occupying. Going back further, Muhammad's early Muslim conquests are another example of a true "religious war".

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4am lemmy.zip 4am@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-23
#38 · Quote Reply

Little Ducky Spoon

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Gorilladrums lemmy.world Gorilladrums@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-19
#39 · Quote Reply

Yup, which is extremely similar to Christians and their "European wars of religion" that had them slaughtering each other for hundreds of years, and more recently "the Troubles" until 1998. Jews aren't above it either, though their examples are more biblical and not nearly the same body count. The Samaritans and the schism that turned into Christianity come to mind.

I mean Hindus are also like this. The amount hatred and violence over being born into different casts is disgusting, though I'm not as familiar with it or other religions. I come from an islamic background

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Zorque lemmy.world Zorque@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-13
#40 · Quote Reply

This is unironically the case in the muslim world today. Different groups killing each other in the bloodiest ways over the most miniscule differences.

Isn't it the crusades as well?

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tetris11 feddit.uk tetris11@feddit.uk
Joined: 2025-02-17
#41 · Quote Reply

What else am I supposed to see besides a lady with a hat?

Ear is eye, Chin is nose, Necklace is mouth

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Rachelhazideas lemmy.world Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-10
#42 · Quote Reply

It took me ~10 seconds to figure out how those banners work. Nice.

What do you mean how they work? It's obviously the banners of the duck god and rabbit god.

All hail the mighty duck god! Death to the rabbit god infidels.

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FlashMobOfOne lemmy.world FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#43 · Quote Reply

Classic.

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Aralakh lemmy.ca Aralakh@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-08
#44 · Quote Reply

It's young lady with a hat facing away and an old lady with a hat facing to the side. Young lady's ear is old lady's eye, young lady's nose is a mole-like bump on old lady's nose, and so on. Never liked this one personally, the old lady is too much of a stretch for my brain to accept.

Yeah... I'm having a hard time making out the old lady

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sparky@lemmy.federate.cc lemmy.federate.cc Joined: 2023-06-23
#45 · Quote Reply

What else am I supposed to see besides a lady with a hat?

Easier to show this way,

One view: young lady. We see her from the back, looking away from the “camera”, her left ear towards us, wearing a necklace

Other view: old lady. Instead of the left ear, the same point served as the eye, the necklace instead serving as the mouth

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PapaStevesy lemmy.world PapaStevesy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-06-18
#46 · Quote Reply

What does it mean to believe in the "same god" if god isn't real?

It means they all believe in the same god.

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Illogicalbit lemmy.world Illogicalbit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-10
#47 · Quote Reply

But what about the Great Green Arkleseizure

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SystemDisc feddit.org SystemDisc@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-05-20
#48 · Quote Reply

Too true

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/home/pineapplelover lemmy.dbzer0.com pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#49 · Quote Reply

I mean Hindus are also like this. The amount hatred and violence over being born into different casts is disgusting, though I'm not as familiar with it or other religions. I come from an islamic background

Caste isn't formally used in India anymore, was abolished a while ago. Could be a cultural thing but that will fade with time

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/home/pineapplelover lemmy.dbzer0.com pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#50 · Quote Reply

I've been going back and forth and can't find the rabbit symbolism

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DarkCloud lemmy.world DarkCloud@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-05-19
#51 · (edited) Quote Reply

Easier to show this way, One view: young lady. We see her from the back, looking away from the “camera”, her left ear towards us, wearing a necklace Other view: old lady. Instead of the left ear, the same point served as the eye, the necklace instead serving as the mouth

I know you're not responsible for this:

But what old lady wears a frill around their chin?

Conclusion: The young lady is real, the old lady is the illusion.

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