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nipawomset
lemmy.world
nipawomset@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-15 |
I thought I might share a small phonetic game/challenge with you. All 3 individuals in the attached clips were born and raised in the same country and speak the same native language. Can you tell, based on the peculiarities of their English pronunciation, what language it is? |
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Lumidaub
feddit.org
Lumidaub@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-11-21 |
Listening to 1 and 2 I was wondering whether there was some clever twist I wasn't seeing because they both seemed fairly easy to identify. Then 3 hit me with surprise rhoticity and now I'm confused. |
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Arcanepotato
crazypeople.online
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineJoined: 2025-05-24 |
Absolute wild guess that it's Wales. Mostly based on how there is an expectation it's not well known as a country and vibes on physical appearance. My favorite whelsh pronunciation:
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nipawomset
lemmy.world
nipawomset@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-15 |
Absolute wild guess that it's Wales. Mostly based on how there is an expectation it's not well known as a country and vibes on physical appearance. My favorite whelsh pronunciation:
That’s an interesting and unexpected guess. It would seem to me that no. 3 in particular doesn’t sound even remotely Welsh, but perhaps absolutely wild guesses (to use your phrase) dispense with such stereotypical assumptions🙂 |
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nipawomset
lemmy.world
nipawomset@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-15 |
Listening to 1 and 2 I was wondering whether there was some clever twist I wasn't seeing because they both seemed fairly easy to identify. Then 3 hit me with surprise rhoticity and now I'm confused.
„Then 3 hit me with surprise rhoticity and now I’m confused.” Hopefully at that point the challenge became entertaining 🙂 |
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Apepollo11
lemmy.world
Apepollo11@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-19 |
Halfway between posh English and Irish... I'm guessing Manx. |
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Rhynoplaz
lemmy.world
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
The first two are British. I know regional dialects vary, but I can't identify one from the other. The third one sounds like an American, but has a very "professional" dialect. Some people will talk like this for recordings, but since you said she's from the same country as the other ones, I'm guessing she learned her American accent from media, and not from regular conversations. |
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Rhynoplaz
lemmy.world
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
I didn't catch this before I posted my answer. Are you telling me that English is not their native language? Now I'm surprised and curious. |
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Mantzy81
aussie.zone
Mantzy81@aussie.zone Joined: 2025-03-09 |
It's not initially obvious but there are hints. Especially with the last and first one (2nd is teaching English peculiarities in slang so is an overly forced accent), but they all appear Slavic-ish too. 20 years ago... immigration from only one country into England comes to mind and that's Poland so their first language is Polish. Note that it wasn't the accent that made me choose there. It was to say they weren't native English speakers |
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bryndos
fedia.io
bryndos@fedia.io Joined: 2025-07-28 |
The first two are British. I know regional dialects vary, but I can't identify one from the other. The third one sounds like an American, but has a very "professional" dialect. Some people will talk like this for recordings, but since you said she's from the same country as the other ones, I'm guessing she learned her American accent from media, and not from regular conversations.
No way are they English. The first two may have spent several years in south east England or spent a long time there - but they're not native speakers. I wonder at what age they stopped being "raised" though as I'd think at least a few formative years spent there to pick up that much of an accent. |
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neidu4
piefed.social
neidu4@piefed.social Joined: 2026-09-10 |
1 sounds slightly NZ to me So my answer is one of these:
Just for the record, English is not my native language. |
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nipawomset
lemmy.world
nipawomset@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-15 |
what language it is? I didn't catch this before I posted my answer. Are you telling me that English is not their native language? Now I'm surprised and curious.
That's right, none of them is a native speaker of English - their English is learned via the standard combination of school, extracurricular courses, media exposure, and other typical means available in largely monolingual countries, and subsequently polished up abroad (at least two of them moved to Anglophone countries for university). Thus, I figured that the undercurrent of their native pronunciation should be sufficiently conspicuous to allow for making some educated guesses about their origin 🙂 |
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davidgro
lemmy.world
davidgro@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
The answer to your question is no, I cannot. The accent I hear appears to be based on where they learned English instead of where they are from. |
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nipawomset
lemmy.world
nipawomset@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-15 |
No way are they English. The first two may have spent several years in south east England or spent a long time there - but they're not native speakers. I wonder at what age they stopped being "raised" though as I'd think at least a few formative years spent there to pick up that much of an accent.
They both initially moved to England for university - him at 19 and her at 21. |
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bryndos
fedia.io
bryndos@fedia.io Joined: 2025-07-28 |
I'd pick Czech overall, for no real reason - they just remind me a bit of one Czech person i know who has spent a long time here. Not strong evidence. Otherwise I might have gone for Poland or Baltics somewhere, Swedish/Finnish/Estonian did cross my mind as possible. I just don't know enough people from enough countries - especially smaller ones to have confidence. |
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bryndos
fedia.io
bryndos@fedia.io Joined: 2025-07-28 |
They both initially moved to England for university - him at 19 and her at 21.
Wow, seems faster than I'd have though to pick up that much of an accent. |
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nipawomset
lemmy.world
nipawomset@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-15 |
I'd pick Czech overall, for no real reason - they just remind me a bit of one Czech person i know who has spent a long time here. Not strong evidence. Otherwise I might have gone for Poland or Baltics somewhere, Swedish/Finnish/Estonian did cross my mind as possible. I just don't know enough people from enough countries - especially smaller ones to have confidence. I think you'd have to be quit...
spoilerOne of your picks is correct |
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nipawomset
lemmy.world
nipawomset@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-15 |
The answer to your question is no, I cannot. The accent I hear appears to be based on where they learned English instead of where they are from.
I suppose that's a pretty solid indication that they learned it well 🙂 |
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LilB0kChoy
reddthat.com
LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com Joined: 2026-07-28 |
::: spoiler spoiler One of your picks is correct ::: 🙂
Swedish? |
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palordrolap
fedia.io
palordrolap@fedia.io Joined: 2024-08-13 |
The first speaker had a couple of vowels that gave away he isn't a native speaker, but he's walking the line between uncanny and mastery, so it was hard to pick out enough to guess what his native language might be. The second I'm not allowed to watch without a Vimeo account, probably because I'm in Britain. I won't be setting one up today. For the third there was a lot more unusual vowel articulation, especially 'a', that made me think Slavic, but I couldn't be any more specific than that. |
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nipawomset
lemmy.world
nipawomset@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-15 |
Swedish?
spoilerNo🙂 |
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sparky@lemmy.federate.cc
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Either Estonian or Finnish, would be my guess, based on the soft, shortened ‘s’ and the distinctive short o (‘so’). It doesn’t show the melodic signs of Germanic Scandinavian languages nor the v/w or v/f fusion I’d expect in Latvian etc. |
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nipawomset
lemmy.world
nipawomset@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-15 |
It's not initially obvious but there are hints. Especially with the last and first one (2nd is teaching English peculiarities in slang so is an overly forced accent), but they all appear Slavic-ish too. 20 years ago... immigration from only one country into England comes to mind and that's Poland so their first language is Polish. Note that it wasn't the accent that made me choose there. It was...
spoilerYour deduction is correct. They are Polish. |
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nipawomset
lemmy.world
nipawomset@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-15 |
The first speaker had a couple of vowels that gave away he isn't a native speaker, but he's walking the line between uncanny and mastery, so it was hard to pick out enough to guess what his native language might be. The second I'm not allowed to watch without a Vimeo account, probably because I'm in Britain. I won't be setting one up today. For the third there was a lot more unusual vowel artic...
spoilerSlavic is a good guess |
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Fleppensteyn
sh.itjust.works
Fleppensteijn@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-12-20 |
1 and 2 sound very British but something sounds a bit off. Number 3 has a stronger accent, but it's still hard to identify, maybe Latvian |
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nipawomset
lemmy.world
nipawomset@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-15 |
Either Estonian or Finnish, would be my guess, based on the soft, shortened ‘s’ and the distinctive short o (‘so’). It doesn’t show the melodic signs of Germanic Scandinavian languages nor the v/w or v/f fusion I’d expect in Latvian etc.
spoilerAn interesting and well-argued guess, but I’m afraid it’s nonetheless somewhat off the mark. |
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nipawomset
lemmy.world
nipawomset@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-15 |
Halfway between posh English and Irish... I'm guessing Manx.
spoilerA fair guess, but no :) |
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nipawomset
lemmy.world
nipawomset@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-15 |
The correct answer is: spoilerPolish. Thanks for your guesses and congratulations to all those who were close or even hit the nail on the head, even if somewhat hesitantingly. |
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nipawomset
lemmy.world
nipawomset@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-15 |
1 sounds slightly NZ to me 2 sounds like non-english, trying to come off as English 3 sounds slightly Scottish So my answer is one of these: South Africa, because the saffers I've met spoke wildly different dialects UK, because I don't know all of the UK dialects, and person 1 and 2 can just be from an area I'm not familiar with Just for the record, English is not my native language.
spoilerIt's neither South Africa nor the UK, though I'm surprised how often the native speakers of this particular language are mistaken for South Africans, given that I can think of hardly any salient connections between the two🙂 |
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