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ThunderclapSasquatch startrek.website ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website
Joined: 2023-08-14
#52 · Quote Reply

Authorization Cyril Figgis

Cyril would end up on a Cerritos grade ship or a garbage scow. And Pam would be head of security

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
#53 · Quote Reply

I like to think technology is so advanced that security features are impossible to implement because penetrating them is trivial.

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tachikoma lemmy.today tachikoma@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-03-28
#54 · (edited) Quote Reply

After WWIII, the writings of Richard Stallman became the guiding principles of computing.

I am your worst nightmare... RevolutionOS! ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

I will say I think the way this movie talks about communism is... a product of it's time. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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tachikoma lemmy.today tachikoma@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-03-28
#55 · Quote Reply

These episodes came out in the late 80s and early 90s, when cybersecurity wasnโ€™t really even a โ€œthingโ€. Yet, even then, when I was seven or eight or nine, I knew enough about computer programming to implement, at the very least, passwords before executing certain commands. It was hard, sometimes, not to think of these people as fucking idiots

I am your worst nightmare... RevolutionOS! ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

I will say I think the way this movie talks about communism is... a product of it's time. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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Zacryon feddit.org Zacryon@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-10
#56 · Quote Reply

You may be surprised how many companies fuck up implementing basic IT security measures.

So in this regard it is very realistic.

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aesthelete lemmy.world aesthelete@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-03
#57 · Quote Reply

Maybe all of their computers were compromised by the government on purpose like ours.

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MacN'Cheezus lemmy.today MacNCheezus@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-11-29
#58 · Quote Reply

Maybe all of their computers were compromised by the government on purpose like ours.

It's a federation spaceship. They work for the government.

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MacN'Cheezus lemmy.today MacNCheezus@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-11-29
#59 · Quote Reply

I like to think technology is so advanced that security features are impossible to implement because penetrating them is trivial.

No, it's really so writers didn't have to work too hard to come up with storylines that a late 20th century TV audience would be able to understand.

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Honytawk discuss.tchncs.de Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2026-02-20
#60 · Quote Reply

I like to think technology is so advanced that security features are impossible to implement because penetrating them is trivial.

In the 24th century, all computers use prompts anyway.

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
#61 · Quote Reply

No, it's really so writers didn't have to work too hard to come up with storylines that a late 20th century TV audience would be able to understand.

No, I dont like to think that because really something about writers?

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aesthelete lemmy.world aesthelete@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-03
#62 · Quote Reply

It's a federation spaceship. They work for the government.

They thought NOBUS (no one but us) rules applied just like our government does now.

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HobbitFoot thelemmy.club HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2023-06-16
#63 · Quote Reply

And threw the majority of ship's resources at the task, taking the energy currency away from all other systems in order to achieve the goal. "You are so right to push back against my over-utilization of resources..."

But he needs engine mommy to help him restart the warp core.

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thevoidzero lemmy.world thevoidzero@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-25
#64 · Quote Reply

That's how you end up using password 001 thru password365 every year

You don't get to choose it though, that's why there's no way in hell I'll remember. Unless it happened to be easy that day and I used it multiple times

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jbrjake lemmy.world jbrjake@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#65 · Quote Reply

Honestly been thinking about this. Everytime someone talks about "programming the holodeck" and they do it in like... 20 minutes, I have to assume that the "programming" was "Make me a Sherlock Holmes larp. Make no mistakes"

Geordiโ€™s literal prompt that one-shotted Moriarty: โ€œComputer, in the Holmesian style, create a mystery to confound Data with an opponent who has the ability to defeat him.โ€

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Echo Dot feddit.uk echodot@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-07-26
#66 · Quote Reply

The most unrealistic thing about Star Trek is that the engineering team are in charge of the computer. That's why nothing never works, those guys hate the concept of passwords.

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fyzzlefry retrolemmy.com fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com
Joined: 2025-03-16
#67 · Quote Reply

No, I dont like to think that because really something about writers?

They don't think it be like it is but it do.

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fyzzlefry retrolemmy.com fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com
Joined: 2025-03-16
#68 · Quote Reply

You may be surprised how many companies fuck up implementing basic IT security measures. So in this regard it is very realistic.

Turns out the FBI as well.

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#69 · (edited) Quote Reply

They do, tho. It's just we usually see events through the lens of characters that have admin access. Or are badass enough to hack them when they don't. Or both, like that episode where Data goes rogue and sets the longest lockout password ever.

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OpenStars discuss.online OpenStars@discuss.online
Joined: 2023-12-31
#70 · Quote Reply

"listen here you little shit"?

But then he has to say sudo prior to that! ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ˜œ

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SpaceCowboy lemmy.ca SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-17
#71 · Quote Reply

The enterprise is a story vessel. Nothing makes sense in a practical sense but everything can be used as a setup for an interesting story. Every device is a plot device. The transporter can beam down just the combination of characters needed for a story to a planet that's ideal for the story and then it will fail to beam them up because of some weird radiation. The engineering department will n...

Yup. Star Trek is the Odyssey set in space. Everyone wants to pretend it's science fiction, but it's actually more fantasy than science.

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SpaceCowboy lemmy.ca SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-17
#72 · Quote Reply

You don't get to choose it though, that's why there's no way in hell I'll remember. Unless it happened to be easy that day and I used it multiple times

If you aren't setting the password, how are they sending the password to you?

Seems like they may not have a very good concept of the point of a password.

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SpaceCowboy lemmy.ca SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-17
#73 · Quote Reply

They do, tho. It's just we usually see events through the lens of characters that have admin access. Or are badass enough to hack them when they don't. Or both, like that episode where Data goes rogue and sets the longest lockout password ever.

And they use biometrics on everything, Data did have to speak in Picard's voice as I recall.

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thevoidzero lemmy.world thevoidzero@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-25
#74 · (edited) Quote Reply

If you aren't setting the password, how are they sending the password to you? Seems like they may not have a very good concept of the point of a password.

There're multiple layers, I don't wanna give too much details lol. But basically things like, assigned computer, office network, phone or physical multifactor keys, etc.

I'm ok with everything except the generated password because it's a hassle.

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DJKJuicy sh.itjust.works DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-03
#75 · Quote Reply

There's also the episode where they find the guy who needs to check his stocks, and Picard explains that in the future people behave like adults.

I was looking for this.

It's a post-scarcity society. The acquisition of wealth and the resulting theft are not a thing anymore.

The Ferengi computers probably have 2FA.

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#76 · Quote Reply

There're multiple layers, I don't wanna give too much details lol. But basically things like, assigned computer, office network, phone or physical multifactor keys, etc. I'm ok with everything except the generated password because it's a hassle.

your description sounds like those authenticators that change every minute, but for every day instead.

don't tell them about the authenticators that change every minute some idiot is going to get an idea

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#77 · Quote Reply

But then he has to say sudo prior to that! ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ˜œ

i just decided when i programming language i'm renaming sudo to fucking.

>do [program]
invalid command or syntax
>fucking [program]
[appropriate output]

just feels more fun

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Lovable Sidekick lemmy.world LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-10-19
#78 · (edited) Quote Reply

IIRC at least one ship-threatening holodeck malfunction was the result of enhancements made by the Binars during a system overhaul, which is like Google having unsuperviised contractors work on their live site. Apparently the Federation has no concept of dev/test/prod environments.

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Lovable Sidekick lemmy.world LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-10-19
#79 · Quote Reply

No, it's really so writers didn't have to work too hard to come up with storylines that a late 20th century TV audience would be able to understand.

You mean like, cars with small engines have trouble on steep hills, so the writers had to make smaller hills - I get it now!

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purple_drank lemmy.world purple_drank@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-14
#80 · Quote Reply

Jake gets pissed off at Nog because for some reason they don't have headphones anymore.

Very hard to get headphones that fit Ferengi on a station run by hew-mons.

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FrChazzz lemmus.org FrChazzz@lemmus.org
Joined: 2025-06-04
#81 · Quote Reply

Jake gets pissed off at Nog because for some reason they don't have headphones anymore.

To be fair, wasn't he attempting some kind of acoustic calibration that required the music to be played out loud?

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baines lemmy.cafe baines@lemmy.cafe
Joined: 2024-10-26
#82 · Quote Reply

There's also the episode where they find the guy who needs to check his stocks, and Picard explains that in the future people behave like adults.

until they donโ€™t?

like saying you dont need seatbelts

but i do like optimism in my trek, i just chalk it up to tv logic

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OpenStars discuss.online OpenStars@discuss.online
Joined: 2023-12-31
#83 · Quote Reply

i just decided when i programming language i'm renaming sudo to fucking. >do [program] invalid command or syntax >fucking [program] [appropriate output] just feels more fun

Let's fucking go!!!

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[object Object] lemmy.world SlurpingPus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-11-03
#84 · Quote Reply

i just decided when i programming language i'm renaming sudo to fucking. >do [program] invalid command or syntax >fucking [program] [appropriate output] just feels more fun

https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#85 · Quote Reply

the borg also has no security on thier ships, unless they start seeing them as assimilate or as a threat.

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thevoidzero lemmy.world thevoidzero@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-25
#86 · Quote Reply

your description sounds like those authenticators that change every minute, but for every day instead. don't tell them about the authenticators that change every minute some idiot is going to get an idea

There's that authenticator for mfa too, so they know lol

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zoltanshields lemmy.zip zoltanshields@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-09-18
#87 · Quote Reply

And they use biometrics on everything, Data did have to speak in Picard's voice as I recall.

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RampantParanoia2365 lemmy.world RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-02
#88 · Quote Reply

To be fair, wasn't he attempting some kind of acoustic calibration that required the music to be played out loud?

Yes, but I'm talking about after he lost his leg, not the baseball card. He kept listening to the Vic recording and eventually went down to the club. But if he did have cans, he never would have stayed with Vic nor learned his valuable life lesson.

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RampantParanoia2365 lemmy.world RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-02
#89 · Quote Reply

Very hard to get headphones that fit Ferengi on a station run by hew-mons.

Nor ear buds, I guess.

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