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pelespirit sh.itjust.works pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-14
#102 · (edited) Quote Reply

The student picked up a stun grenade that had been thrown and it exploded in their hand.

He was 15.

However, regional newspaper La Voix Du Nord quoted a girl, who was reportedly standing near the teenager, as saying he did not pick up the grenade.

"He didn't pick it up. I was there, I saw it. He didn't pick it up, he didn't catch it," she was quoted as saying.

And

Last week, Eden, 14, was badly hurt in Saint-Ouen-l'AumĂ´ne after reportedly being struck in the head by a tear gas grenade.

The student suffered "a double jaw fracture" and had to undergo "extremely major surgery", according to his lawyer. Interior Minister Laurent Nuñez has announced an investigation.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9zrdmxp4vy6o

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Valmond lemmy.dbzer0.com Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-11-13
#103 · Quote Reply

These cops, no. But these aren't riot cops. Riot copsin France are legit monsters. Absolutely horrible.

Here in Bordeaux they just started gassing the legal movement super heavily, it was 100% peaceful (no shooting stuff or burning or even firecrackers) was moving for only 5 minutes (this is regular stuff, happens often). Old people, handicapped people, parents with strollers. My friend went to them (the riot police) and asked why they started to gas everyone and could they please let them (him) help people out (you get respiratory problems when you're gassed, and people get disoriented, scared etc, people was on the floor, panicked), he got gassed.

So this seems to be a biig "blunder", I mean if they don't just not give a fuck, which they don't. They don't listen? Well then it's french riot time I guess.

✊🏼

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FundMECFS piefed.zip FundMECFS@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-08-03
#104 · Quote Reply

Vive la Révolution

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BaraCoded literature.cafe BaraCoded@literature.cafe
Joined: 2025-12-13
#105 · Quote Reply

"And that, kids, is how I voted the far right fascists into power at the next election." It's a beautiful, heartwarming tale.

🤣🤣🤣 yeah, sure, bro, sure. Bismillah c'est les ténèbres.

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Hawk lemmy.dbzer0.com Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-18
#106 · Quote Reply

Scum.

They are, downvoters here seem to have no idea what's going on.

This isn't "fighting back", is people seem to be believe. These are violent thugs using the protests to destroy and loot whatever they can.

The actual protesters are barely being covered by the media, only these violent "protestors". It's detrimental to the cause and will only end up helping the right.

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berno lemmy.world berno@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#107 · Quote Reply

Lock all these fucking criminals up

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berno lemmy.world berno@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#108 · Quote Reply

In the US they would open fire and kill hundreds of protestors.

Good

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TootTootComingThru lemmy.world TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-08-29
#109 · Quote Reply

1 - the French protests will not end well. 2 - US protests would end even worse 3 - no kings is mostly old boomers reliving their youth. The majority of you get people there are dragged by their parents or grandparents. It is also a very small percentage of people who support no kings 4 - I do have to congratulate the No Kings people, there aren't currently any in the US. So good job.

I'm a do-nothin' lil bitch and I'm smug about it

We get it, Vlad.

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Sculptor9157 sh.itjust.works Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-10-15
#110 · Quote Reply

Lock all these fucking criminals up

I think they tried, but they failed to disable the criminal's vehicles with what they had on hand.

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TootTootComingThru lemmy.world TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-08-29
#111 · Quote Reply

I have to agree. The people I've organized with are also waiting to see how mid terms shake out.

Same. Go out and vote and get ready for violence from the fascist dipshits.

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TootTootComingThru lemmy.world TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-08-29
#112 · Quote Reply

In the US they would open fire and kill hundreds of protestors.

Perhaps that's exactly what it would take for some people to snap out of it.

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FlyingCircus lemmy.world FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-08
#113 · Quote Reply

No, not really, and I mean that genuinely. There are too many people on here that say shit like "You should firebomb a Walmart" and mean it with their whole heart. We already had that with the Kimberly-Clarke warehouse and we got diaper shortages. Firebombing a Walmart only hurts the locals in the area who won't get food. Even with bombing a police station, pray that locals actually care about ...

Americans prioritize the flow of treats over any action that might hurt the oligarchy. Even if a warehouse was burned down by an organized revolutionary militia that was actively trying to bring about change, y’all would complain that you can’t get your 10-ply toilet paper.

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Cheebus lemmy.world Cheebus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-26
#114 · Quote Reply

I'm a do-nothin' lil bitch and I'm smug about it We get it, Vlad.

Ukraine needs to cloud burst a few more yandex data centers

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Zoot reddthat.com Zoot@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-07-01
#115 · Quote Reply

Oh please. I'm not defending anyone. I'm just pointing out the absurdity of your statement. This kind of hyperbole might impress 16 year olds but in political discourse you just seem like an idiot.

If instead the person had jumped on the stun grenade to protect others, would you still have a problem with people saying "a cop blew out a students stomach" not be accurate enough for you?

Theyre functionally the same thing. The cop is the reason why the student is now maimed. Saying that's inaccurate only makes you look like you're defending their actions, and are instead blaming the victim.

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alexquiniou lemmy.zip alexquiniou@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-12-26
#116 · Quote Reply

Most protests was people walking, being happy, singing and talking.
What everyone is talking i that 10% shit happening.

Please, be aware that most of the time people are peaceful. That what everyone have to stick in their brain.

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itsjustachairmary lemmy.world itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-06
#117 · Quote Reply

Here in Bordeaux they just started gassing the legal movement super heavily, it was 100% peaceful (no shooting stuff or burning or even firecrackers) was moving for only 5 minutes (this is regular stuff, happens often). Old people, handicapped people, parents with strollers. My friend went to them (the riot police) and asked why they started to gas everyone and could they please let them (him) ...

Protest has always been the peaceful option. And governments somehow think it ends at the peaceful option.

Welp.

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richardwallass sh.itjust.works richardwallass@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-07-02
#118 · Quote Reply

Lock all these fucking criminals up

Pinochet like it

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#119 · Quote Reply

Without seeing the post they're referencing: Someone probably said they let their cats outside tbh, and then someone chimed in with how they're "personally Holocausting every small bird and lizard within a 600mi radius and for this crime they should be thrown to a tiger and see how they like it." Yes I was being a little hyperbolic for comedic effect but it's absolutely a thing in the cat comms...

people hate outside cats (more to the point, their owners) on lemmy.

i mean i get it, but if everyone kept their cats inside my bike rides would be so boring. i meet new cats every day. it's one of the better parts.

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ohulancutash feddit.uk ohulancutash@feddit.uk
Joined: 2025-02-16
#120 · Quote Reply

In the US they would open fire and kill hundreds of protestors.

Thats how change is made

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im_fine_sandy nord.pub im_fine_sandy@nord.pub
Joined: 2026-08-05
#121 · Quote Reply

If instead the person had jumped on the stun grenade to protect others, would you still have a problem with people saying "a cop blew out a students stomach" not be accurate enough for you? Theyre functionally the same thing. The cop is the reason why the student is now maimed. Saying that's inaccurate only makes you look like you're defending their actions, and are instead blaming the victim.

Suppose a cop tripped over a students water bottle, hit his head on the ground and died. Did the student murder that cop?

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im_fine_sandy nord.pub im_fine_sandy@nord.pub
Joined: 2026-08-05
#122 · Quote Reply

Hyperbole? It's our lived reality. Policy choices literally kill us, my friends and family are struggling to put food on the table after working hard their entire lives. What kind of elitist "political discourse" bs is this? You have no response, you can't refute it, and instead try to insultand call it absurd. I'd say the rise of the far right is absurd. It doesn't mean it's not happening all ...

Describing the occurrence as a cop blowing a students hand off is absolutely hyperbole. Are you really going to pretend that's an objective description of what happened?

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Zoot reddthat.com Zoot@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-07-01
#123 · (edited) Quote Reply

Suppose a cop tripped over a students water bottle, hit his head on the ground and died. Did the student murder that cop?

Sure, if the student intended to harm the cop, and slipped it directly under his foot when he went to step. That would be a fair equivalent, and I would say yeah, the student is in the wrong.

You can't throw something intended to harm others, and then cry fowl. The cop is the reason that students hand is gone. No clue why you would say otherwise, except tovictim blame.

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Arachnidbrilliant lemmy.dbzer0.com Arachnidbrilliant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-03-08
#124 · Quote Reply

I used to look up to France for their ability to come together and rebel again against the unjust.

Can someone tell me what they’re doing over there?

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Arachnidbrilliant lemmy.dbzer0.com Arachnidbrilliant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-03-08
#125 · Quote Reply

I used to look up to France for their ability to come together and rebel against the unjust. Can someone tell me what they’re doing over there?

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Jax sh.itjust.works Jax@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-22
#126 · Quote Reply

Good

Go fuck yourself, those would be good people dying

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mursejoy lemmy.zip mursejoy@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-05-23
#127 · Quote Reply

I used to look up to France for their ability to come together and rebel again against the unjust. Can someone tell me what they’re doing over there?

Not putting up with bullshit, that’s what they’re doing.

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mursejoy lemmy.zip mursejoy@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-05-23
#128 · Quote Reply

Go fuck yourself, those would be good people dying

Good people dying for a good cause. The US is catatonicly lumbering towards self destruction. One death won’t snap anyone out of it. Alex Pretti proved that. It’ll take hundreds of people slaughtered for the people to wake up. If the government doesn’t bury it like China does with Tiananmen Square.

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im_fine_sandy nord.pub im_fine_sandy@nord.pub
Joined: 2026-08-05
#129 · Quote Reply

Sure, if the student intended to harm the cop, and slipped it directly under his foot when he went to step. That would be a fair equivalent, and I would say yeah, the student is in the wrong. You can't throw something intended to harm others, and then cry fowl. The cop is the reason that students hand is gone. No clue why you would say otherwise, except tovictim blame.

if the student intended

Its interesting you consider the students intention.

What do you suppose was the cop's intention?

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Un trop vert timide lemmy.blahaj.zone untropvertimide@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-08-02
#130 · Quote Reply

It's a kid. Do you really expect a kid to know what to do when having grenades thrown at them? They are already fucking smarter than most of the population that just sits on their assss waiting for the world to collapse, but on top of that you expect them to have a proper rational immediate reaction when faced with military equipment? Also, I repeat: the idea that the kid grabbed the grenade is...

Yup, agreed, same French cops that:

  • Count their self-inflicted injuries as injuries inflicted by their "suspect" (target).
  • Don't follow most laws and rules about weapon usage, about arrest procedure, about state neutrality, about non-discrimination, rape, etc
  • Cover their violent colleagues up.
  • Threaten a young driver (of color, of course) with "I will blow your head off", while pointing their gun directly to the target's head. Then, when the target drives away to flee, the cop successfully shoots to kill. The whole police institution defend the murderer citing a recent law that in effect extend the legitimate cases for the use of (lethal) force by police to "suspect" that would "probably" harm others while fleeing. (preventive defensive violence... reminds me of something). Some people even donated moreqthan a million euros to said cop to pay for his legal proceedings. The murder was filmed, and the video shared day one, disproving the police lies about the murder from the start.
  • Confiscate protests signs that don't please them enough.
  • Consider police violence and abuses as insignificant, always justified and proportionnate, then treat graffitis and stickers from protesters as violent crimes.
  • Sometimes beat up random people carrying palestinian flags in protests.
  • Throw projectiles (I guess grenades, from the impact sound) from behind the protester lines, probably to trigger their colleagues charge. (And deny doing so when they're caught red-handed by an elected official.)
  • Are fully armored in protests, get collectively knocked down with some serious injuries by their weapon mishandling, but still use these weapons on civilians in plain clothes, directly aiming at them.
  • etc

Our (french) police intitutions are authoritarian, lethally violent, lying. Our ministers too, since they publicly defend and encourage these intitutions crimes.

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Un trop vert timide lemmy.blahaj.zone untropvertimide@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-08-02
#131 · (edited) Quote Reply

If this was an american no kings protest, those cop cars would have been swerving to hit the protesters. The cops would later say that the protesters stepped in front of their car, and would get no punishment.

Multiple attempts were filmed. At least one attempt by the "anti felony brigade" ("Brigade Anti Criminelle", or "BAC")

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FurryMemesAccount lemmy.blahaj.zone FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-03-06
#132 · Quote Reply

I used to look up to France for their ability to come together and rebel again against the unjust. Can someone tell me what they’re doing over there?

Coming together and rebelling against the unjust.

To boil it down, billionaires stealing all the money.

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Un trop vert timide lemmy.blahaj.zone untropvertimide@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-08-02
#133 · Quote Reply

"And that, kids, is how I voted the far right fascists into power at the next election." It's a beautiful, heartwarming tale.

The irony: a contributing factor to both E. Macron elections was his stated posture as a shield against far-right. (M. Le Pen was his second round opponent in both elections.)

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Kokesh lemmy.world kokesh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#134 · Quote Reply

Not putting up with bullshit, that’s what they’re doing.

By looting?

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timochka lemmy.zip timochka@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-05-22
#135 · Quote Reply

The irony: a contributing factor to both E. Macron elections was his stated posture as a shield against far-right. (M. Le Pen was his second round opponent in both elections.)

Indeed. Unfortunately if the keyboard revolutionaries of Lemmy think that the lumpenproletariat looting Fnac is going to bring about the Glorious Revolution and not instead usher Le Pen into power, they are as deluded as they are biddable, lapdogs of Putin that they are.

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CultLeader4Hire lemmy.world CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-03-28
#136 · Quote Reply

Thats how change is made

Despite everyone saying they want to die on the internet they don’t actually want to die, hope this helps

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Prior_Industry lemmy.world Prior_Industry@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#137 · Quote Reply

By looting?

Criminal gangs do tend to take advantage of these situations and use it as cover. Same thing happened during the London riots.

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CultLeader4Hire lemmy.world CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world
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#138 · Quote Reply

Perhaps that's exactly what it would take for some people to snap out of it.

I think in the US you would see this if people felt like they were choosing between dying and dying. If it was die in a riot or starve to death or die of exposure for example. Right now it’s suicide by cop or pretend everything is fine. I think if the US didn’t have insane violent thugs in surplus military gear driving armored vehicles as law enforcement you would see a lot more “action”. The math just doesn’t add up if you know acting this way will likely end up with you dying.

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CultLeader4Hire lemmy.world CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world
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#139 · Quote Reply

So the police aren’t completely militarized yet, like here.

In France one of the only groups, maybe the only? not allowed to unionize is the police

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mursejoy lemmy.zip mursejoy@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-05-23
#140 · Quote Reply

By looting?

This is always a disingenuous argument against protesting. There will always be opportunistic criminals that take advantage of these situations. It’s doesn’t take away the fact that protest and a national strike are the only actual power people have against the ruling class.

I’m not worried about Walmart losing money on looted TVs when cooperations are part of the problem and are run by the ruling class. If it’s a small business, hope your shits insured.

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Arola sh.itjust.works Arola@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-08-05
#141 · Quote Reply

Like the Police, a few "bad apples" will show themselves but, this is people protesting that schools and education in France are underfunded, dilapidated and children do not have materials to learn while they are in cold, drafty classrooms with leaking roofs. I see an increase in funding for schools and education in France's very near future. There is a a good reason why the retirement age in France was not raised even after the government announced that the age of retirement / pension entitlement would be raised. Anyone calling this rioting is a class traitor or a shill.

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jumping redditor [they/them] sh.itjust.works jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-30
#142 · Quote Reply

Perhaps that's exactly what it would take for some people to snap out of it.

there aren't quite enough politically motivated suicidal people for that to happen yet

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jumping redditor [they/them] sh.itjust.works jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works
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#143 · Quote Reply

It doesn’t show correlation. They’re probably making a point about priorities, because it shows more people attend furry conventions over the course of a year than ICE protests.

One of those is proven to be safe and the other is not

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murvel feddit.nu murvel@feddit.nu
Joined: 2025-06-16
#144 · Quote Reply

Coming together and rebelling against the unjust. To boil it down, billionaires stealing all the money.

Lmao Nah, at this point they're just wrecking shit for the fun of it

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murvel feddit.nu murvel@feddit.nu
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#145 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Of course it is. And per usual they know about fuck all what's actually going on

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Un trop vert timide lemmy.blahaj.zone untropvertimide@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-08-02
#146 · Quote Reply

Indeed. Unfortunately if the keyboard revolutionaries of Lemmy think that the lumpenproletariat looting Fnac is going to bring about the Glorious Revolution and not instead usher Le Pen into power, they are as deluded as they are biddable, lapdogs of Putin that they are.

Please tone your condescendence down.

Those responsibles for MLP (and her kind) rise to power are not their opponents. The main responsible are themselves, their allies, and their goons/hench•wo•men.

The narrative about the protesters being responsible ignore the decades-long events chronology, the contribution of these big companies to our suffering, the proganda aganist the protesters even when unsupported by facts, etc. It is a blame shifting narrative.

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GeriatricGambino lemmy.world GeriatricGambino@lemmy.world
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#147 · Quote Reply

In France one of the only groups, maybe the only? not allowed to unionize is the police

Not the police, as it is one the most unionized group of public servant workers in France, the biggest police union is called alliance, which is considered to be affiliated with the far right, and their spokespersons go bitching on tv like little crybabies every chance they get.
The only group not allowed to unionized in France is historically military personnel, so maybe you're thinking of the gendarmerie who are military and not cops even if most of what they do is cop things.

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Evotech lemmy.world Evotech@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-11
#148 · Quote Reply

Most protests was people walking, being happy, singing and talking. What everyone is talking i that 10% shit happening. Please, be aware that most of the time people are peaceful. That what everyone have to stick in their brain.

That’s daytime protests

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davepleasebehave lemmy.world davepleasebehave@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-02
#149 · Quote Reply

Like the Police, a few "bad apples" will show themselves but, this is people protesting that schools and education in France are underfunded, dilapidated and children do not have materials to learn while they are in cold, drafty classrooms with leaking roofs. I see an increase in funding for schools and education in France's very near future. There is a a good reason why the retirement age in F...

look at the amazing no kings protests in the US where people danced and sang their way into a dictatorship.

Threaten capital.

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fenrasulfr lemmy.world fenrasulfr@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-17
#150 · Quote Reply

This is always a disingenuous argument against protesting. There will always be opportunistic criminals that take advantage of these situations. It’s doesn’t take away the fact that protest and a national strike are the only actual power people have against the ruling class. I’m not worried about Walmart losing money on looted TVs when cooperations are part of the problem and are run by the rul...

The only problem that most often it is the smaller stores that get looted because they can not afford the security measures of the large coorporations.

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myyass lemmy.world myyass@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-09-02
#151 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Yeah. It's not like people don't remember what happened in Kent State or the Coal mine protest. You can say all you want about the second amendment until you learn the concept of superior firepower.

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