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Morticia and Gomez Addams (Carolyn Jones and John Astin) may have had the most passionate and healthiest relationship of any couple in the history of TV! (~1964)
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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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This still-shot comes from the inspired, short, legendary TV series:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Addams_Family_(1964_TV_series)

Now, if I tried to talk about The Addams Family here, then we'd be here all day, and much of that time would frankly be down to me bumbling around for words and specific episodes I half-remembered.

But actually, the whole franchise started with Charles Addams' deliciously, lovingly-morbid Addams Family comic art & strip series. You're in LUCK though if you were looking for that kind of thing, because one of our comics-sharing historians here has you covered!

That would be my mate @nocturne@slrpnk.net, who's taking the time to scan and upload his books / material to help create a comprehensive, major picture of the classic Addams cartoons.

That goodness is shared at this sub (altho there are maybe other places I don't know about):
!comics@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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The Addams family is just one of the many great things invented in NJ

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Eh, sorry... my dog "Vladimir" is always doing this stuff... sorry!

My favorite "Volodymyr" is the nicest doggie you'll ever meet, fortunately for us all. 🙂

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The Addams family is just one of the many great things invented in NJ

New Jersey? Really?

Oh baby, the floor is YOURS, not-Rick!

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New Jersey? Really? Oh baby, the floor is YOURS, not-Rick!

Charles Addams was born in Westfield, New Jersey, on Sunday, January 7, 1912. He was the son of Grace M. (née Spear; 1879–1943) and Charles Huey Addams (1873–1932), a piano company executive who had studied to be an architect. Known as "something of a rascal around the neighborhood," as childhood friends recalled.

A house on Elm Street and another on Dudley Avenue – into which police once caught him breaking and entering – are said to be [some of] the inspiration for the Addams Family mansion in his cartoons.

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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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Charles Addams was born in Westfield, New Jersey, on Sunday, January 7, 1912. He was the son of Grace M. (née Spear; 1879–1943) and Charles Huey Addams (1873–1932), a piano company executive who had studied to be an architect. Known as "something of a rascal around the neighborhood," as childhood friends recalled. A house on Elm Street and another on Dudley Avenue – into which police once caugh...

Huh!
His bad-boy arc sounds kind of fascinating, honestly.

Oh, btw... please let me know if anything needs correcting in the post. I feel like I did reasonably-well, but that maybe I forgot something important. :S

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nocturne slrpnk.net nocturne@slrpnk.net
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and specific episodes I half-remembered

Join me in my series rewatch! Sadly I have not had time to post in two weeks now.

The Addams Family (1964) Rewatch

Season 1 Episode 1

Season 1 Episode 2

Season 1 Episode 3

But actually, the whole franchise started with Charles Addams' deliciously, lovingly-morbid Addams Family comic art & strip series. You're in LUCK though if you were looking for that kind of thing, because one of our comics-sharing historians here has you covered!

If you have not been seeing my Addams Family posts, catch up and join us on Wednesdays.

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prole lemmy.blahaj.zone prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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New Jersey? Really? Oh baby, the floor is YOURS, not-Rick!

For real? NJ is the most densely populated state in the country, is the really that surprising that good shit can come from there?

By the way, have you ever eaten pizza in NJ? You can't swing a cat in that state without hitting like six restaurants that will all make the best pizza you've ever had before entering the state.

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nocturne slrpnk.net nocturne@slrpnk.net
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Huh! His bad-boy arc sounds kind of fascinating, honestly. Oh, btw... please let me know if anything needs correcting in the post. I feel like I did reasonably-well, but that maybe I forgot something important. :S

It is a great post with I think just the right amount of info without going too deep. If people want deeper there is a great info in my comic posts, and some of the comments get even deeper into the history.

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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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For real? NJ is the most densely populated state in the country, is the really that surprising that good shit can come from there? By the way, have you ever eaten pizza in NJ? You can't swing a cat in that state without hitting like six restaurants that will all make the best pizza you've ever had before entering the state.

Uh... wow, I meant no shade on NJ, specifically.
Sorry if it seemed like I was throwing shade.

Some of my favorite life memories are hanging out on Jersey Shores. (my relatives had a long-time beach house there)

Sorry for any rudeness on my part.
(and btw, I learned to make pizza by hand when I was 17yo, sucker)

😙

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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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and specific episodes I half-remembered Join me in my series rewatch! Sadly I have not had time to post in two weeks now. ::: spoiler The Addams Family (1964) Rewatch Season 1 Episode 1 Season 1 Episode 2 Season 1 Episode 3 ::: But actually, the whole franchise started with Charles Addams' deliciously, lovingly-morbid Addams Family comic art & strip series. You're in LUCK though if you were...

Oh shit... I DID NOT KNOW. oO

Oh wow, that would be fun to do a rewatch... and of course, it's probably over by now, right?

Goldaggit...

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Uh... wow, I meant no shade on NJ, specifically. Sorry if it seemed like I was throwing shade. Some of my favorite life memories are hanging out on Jersey Shores. (my relatives had a long-time beach house there) Sorry for any rudeness on my part. (and btw, I learned to make pizza by hand when I was 17yo, sucker) 😙

Pizza in NJ is just next level. If you know, you know.

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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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Pizza in NJ is just next level. If you know, you know.

Yes and no.

Ever been to Italy..?

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The Addams family is supposed to be the opposite of a normal family in everything. So they're the opposite of a "normal" disengaged husband and nagging wife who've long lost all traces of love for each other.

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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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The Addams family is supposed to be the opposite of a normal family in everything. So they're the opposite of a "normal" disengaged husband and nagging wife who've long lost all traces of love for each other.

Okay, I can see that interpretation, but no... there is obvious, serious love going on between these two, but here's the real point-- they've FREED themselves from the world of labels and subjectiveness, you see?

Yeah, I get your point in terms of a simple mathematical equation, i.e. "one plus negative-one equals zero," but honestly, that would constitute the most worthless take ever in trying to understand this lovely art / oeuvre / comic / series.

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I feel like the relationship between Morticia and Gomez was extremely lacking in the Wednesday reboot. Luiz Guzmán lacked much of the suave character traits of the original. Luiz was more comedic relief. The parents' relationship also felt less in the remake. It felt more one sided, like Morticia was just humoring Gomez.

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Um, Lucy and Ricardo?

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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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Um, Lucy and Ricardo?

Oooh... EXCELLENT counterpoint. oO

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The script for the Barry Sonnenfeld movies (with Raul Julia and Anjelica Huston) specified that Gomez and Morticia were "demonically horny" for one another. The same aside made clear that they constantly think about fucking, and do, and that if the movie did not reflect this then the writers would walk.

Unfortunately I can't find the exact full text because search engines are garbage now.

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Huh! His bad-boy arc sounds kind of fascinating, honestly. Oh, btw... please let me know if anything needs correcting in the post. I feel like I did reasonably-well, but that maybe I forgot something important. :S

Hell, I saved it immediately for rabbitholing later, so you got me curious, certainly!

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Yes and no. Ever been to Italy..?

NYC dollar slice pizza all day.

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The script for the Barry Sonnenfeld movies (with Raul Julia and Anjelica Huston) specified that Gomez and Morticia were "demonically horny" for one another. The same aside made clear that they constantly think about fucking, and do, and that if the movie did not reflect this then the writers would walk. Unfortunately I can't find the exact full text because search engines are garbage now.

https://x.com/caitiedelaney/status/1316854985888423936

Sorry for the Twitter link, but this is the original source of your quote

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JohnnyEnzyme piefed.social JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social
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NYC dollar slice pizza all day.

Truth!

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Oh shit... I DID NOT KNOW. oO Oh wow, that would be fun to do a rewatch... and of course, it's probably over by now, right? Goldaggit...

I have only posted the first 3 episodes.

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— Tish!
— What?
— You spoke French!
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Oh definitely. One of the best family values shows ever. They showed marriage at its very best. Original Adam's family movie did a great job with this as well.

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Um, Lucy and Ricardo?

I'd have to pick the Adams. They seem far more passionate to me and Morticia comes across as a much stronger and independent woman and the pair come across, to me at least, as equal partners in the relationship. It's them against the world.

Lucy and Ricky are generally at odds with her wanting to make her own money or be in his show, while he wants her to stay at home and be a housewife. Most of the plots in I Love Lucy is one against the other in some way rather than them against the world.

Bear in mind I haven't watched either in a long time so correct me if I'm wrong.

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Victor lemmy.world victorz@lemmy.world
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Bet you they did a little bit of choking in the sac.

(Sorry, reference to another discussion I had recently on Lemmy. 😅)

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https://x.com/caitiedelaney/status/1316854985888423936 Sorry for the Twitter link, but this is the original source of your quote

It also specifies that it is a joke created by the writer of the Tweet.

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I love the 90s film adaptations. There's a plot hole for me though, going by their relationship. How the hell do you only have 3 children?

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I love the 90s film adaptations. There's a plot hole for me though, going by their relationship. How the hell do you only have 3 children?

Contraception exists, so you can keep banging without children. Maybe they decided they didn't want more children.

Unless there's some "staunchly against jimmy caps" lore about the Addams I am unaware of.

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True that, all is nice and super supportive in that series.

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I grew up watching reruns of this show on the weekends, loved all of the adaptations to my core.

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Okay, I can see that interpretation, but no... there is obvious, serious love going on between these two, but here's the real point-- they've FREED themselves from the world of labels and subjectiveness, you see? Yeah, I get your point in terms of a simple mathematical equation, i.e. "one plus negative-one equals zero," but honestly, that would constitute the most worthless take ever in trying ...

I think you misunderstood the comment you are replying to

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They stood out because they were designed to be doing the opposite of most TV families. That's the whole premise, right?

I find Bob and Linda from Bob's Burgers a more realistic couple though. Dan and Roseanne from Roseanne were also realistic. Couples who find romance in giving up a little, in trying what little they can with each other. Showing realistic effort, and showing up.

Let's face it the Addams family owned a mansion, didn't appear to have jobs and their kids were invulnerable. Easy to be healthy and stress free partners in that situation.

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It also specifies that it is a joke created by the writer of the Tweet.

Yeah, that's why I chose the Twitter link. Sorry, should have clarified that in my comment.

I found the script image alone elsewhere, but having worked on some stage productions I thought it must have been a joke or something

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The Addams family is supposed to be the opposite of a normal family in everything. So they're the opposite of a "normal" disengaged husband and nagging wife who've long lost all traces of love for each other.

Yes, I love that the whole point was to go against the usual tropes and what came out of that was a happy loving and healthy family.

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and specific episodes I half-remembered Join me in my series rewatch! Sadly I have not had time to post in two weeks now. ::: spoiler The Addams Family (1964) Rewatch Season 1 Episode 1 Season 1 Episode 2 Season 1 Episode 3 ::: But actually, the whole franchise started with Charles Addams' deliciously, lovingly-morbid Addams Family comic art & strip series. You're in LUCK though if you were...

This is awesome! Thanks for sharing.

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I love the 90s film adaptations. There's a plot hole for me though, going by their relationship. How the hell do you only have 3 children?

Given their idea of sexytimes, an accident involves a hospital stay and nineteen stitches.

Anyway, Grandmama is a witch who's old enough to have invented the loophole. It's simply not an issue.

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The Addams family is just one of the many great things invented in NJ

Hoboken style, baby!

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John Astin and Carolyn Jones took it upon themselves to make their relationship more fiery than 1960s television censors would allow. They came up with the routine where everything she says in French drives him wild. Intense kissing on the mouth wouldn't have been allowed, but by starting with her hand and worked his way up her clothed arm he could be as passionate as he wished. They also did a lot with body language, facial expressions, and fiery delivery of mundane dialog.

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They stood out because they were designed to be doing the opposite of most TV families. That's the whole premise, right? I find Bob and Linda from Bob's Burgers a more realistic couple though. Dan and Roseanne from Roseanne were also realistic. Couples who find romance in giving up a little, in trying what little they can with each other. Showing realistic effort, and showing up. Let's face it ...

We're not talking about real people with real lives, it's about actors doing a great job making the audience feel passion between sitcom characters, in an era when television portrayed sex and romance very puritanically. In the mid-60s it was still most common for married couples on TV to sleep in separate beds.

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I love the 90s film adaptations. There's a plot hole for me though, going by their relationship. How the hell do you only have 3 children?

I think it was due to Gomez's narrow urethra.

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It also specifies that it is a joke created by the writer of the Tweet.

Glad to hear it was only a joke, as what is described in the original comment is nothing like Morticia and Gomez.

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They stood out because they were designed to be doing the opposite of most TV families. That's the whole premise, right? I find Bob and Linda from Bob's Burgers a more realistic couple though. Dan and Roseanne from Roseanne were also realistic. Couples who find romance in giving up a little, in trying what little they can with each other. Showing realistic effort, and showing up. Let's face it ...

I know a ton of Peter and Lois's unfortunately.

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I know a ton of Peter and Lois's unfortunately.

When the wife acts as the mother to the children AND the husband, that's truly the most embarrassing and pitiful.

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John Astin and Carolyn Jones took it upon themselves to make their relationship more fiery than 1960s television censors would allow. They came up with the routine where everything she says in French drives him wild. Intense kissing on the mouth wouldn't have been allowed, but by starting with her hand and worked his way up her clothed arm he could be as passionate as he wished. They also did a...

You know I hadn't thought of such things before in the analytical sense, but... yeah, their message came through. Thanks for adding on, old chum! (based on your username, hehe)

(er... your comment also reminded me to include the damn actors' names in the title 😅)

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— Tish! — What? — You spoke French!

Mais non, c'était toi !

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‘Pugsley, your present escaped.’

Always loved that series. They love each other, care for their kids, take good care of their house and pets… they really were role models for a young me.

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Contraception exists, so you can keep banging without children. Maybe they decided they didn't want more children. Unless there's some "staunchly against jimmy caps" lore about the Addams I am unaware of.

Contraception usually is advertised with like 99% to 99.9% success rate. So still a bit of a plot hole.

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