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undefined lemmy.hogru.ch undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch
Joined: 2024-11-07
#52 · Quote Reply

The horror!

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Imgonnatrythis sh.itjust.works Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-09-23
#53 · (edited) Quote Reply

Good god no. That sound worse than being thrown into a a pit of oily tiddies.

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bertlewirth lemy.lol bertlewirth@lemy.lol
Joined: 2026-09-16
#54 · Quote Reply

what!? no! what about the poor insurance companies who charge more than a fucking mortgage?!

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halcyoncmdr piefed.social halcyoncmdr@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-01-15
#55 · Quote Reply

One day?! The entire point of health insurance is that millions of other people are paying to help you pay for your healthcare

And then a random dude in the middle takes a cut while providing no actual service.

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BigMacHole thelemmy.club BigMacHole@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2026-03-16
#56 · Quote Reply

As a MAGA with Treatable Cancer I would rather DIE a HORRIBLE PAINFUL and PREVENTABLE Death then to see ONE Minority Child Healthy!

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° 。Juniper 。° piefed.zip Juniper@piefed.zip
Joined: 2026-09-17
#57 · (edited) Quote Reply

A while back, I was listening to a podcast that apparently had a fairly sizable conservative Christian audience, because there were a good number of ads for Christian "Health Care Sharing Ministries," into which subscribers pay a voluntary "share," and from which they draw when they need it. I don't remember the specific language the ad used, but I do remember it saying something that sounded a...

There's a Fundamental Christian influencer named Aria Lewis who has that "insurance". She's been dealing with dental problems and basically made a post one day asking her followers if that insurance was a scam because she wasn't able to get the care she really needed

It's crazy what problems people fall into when they choose something has "Christian" in the name over what everyone else is using

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halcyoncmdr piefed.social halcyoncmdr@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-01-15
#58 · Quote Reply

I sometimes wonder if my MAGA Dad has had a change of heart. He used to be against universal healthcare because he "doesn't want to pay for some homeless addicts healthcare". But now he's been laid off and 6 months unemployed as a tech worker. I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate it being pointed out that he's living the stereotype he stigmatized for so many years. Or how slippery the slope is to ho...

These people NEED this pointed out to them. It's the only way they ever change their perspectives. It must affect them, otherwise they never change.

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CaptDust sh.itjust.works CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-05
#59 · Quote Reply

this is a real thing he said, but it was in 2024

OP is a new second time, just to be clear.

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Colloidal programming.dev Colloidal@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-02-26
#60 · Quote Reply

OP is a new second time, just to be clear.

What?

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lividweasel lemmy.world lividweasel@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-05
#61 · Quote Reply

The Democrats are just as fascist: Biden/Harris had the entire Epstein file suite and did absolutely nothing with it Obama/Biden built the policy power to do the mass deportations and city-deployments of ICE that Trump is now using Biden knew this and changed literally nothing about it when he was president Obama/Biden deported more people than Trump has Obama/Biden appointed Tom Homan as depor...

Geez, they really do come out of the woodwork just prior to elections.

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freagle lemmy.ml frisbird@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-11-24
#62 · Quote Reply

Geez, they really do come out of the woodwork just prior to elections.

No, we don't. We are always here. But you fucking dilletantes show up a few months before every election thinking that you can both rustle up some blue no matter who votes while spreading your blue MAGA bullshit and then accuse everyone else of being Russian bots and Republican trolls and you smug schmucks think it's working without any sense of how propaganda actually works and how you are creating every opportunity for people to see how completely bankrupt you all are.

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ChonkyOwlbear lemmy.world ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-24
#63 · Quote Reply

"Why should I pay for someone else's healthcare?" Because one day, someone will pay your healthcare you absolutely rotten piece of shit.

Hell, we all pay for other people's healthcare now! When people go to the emergency room and can't afford to pay, the hospitals crank up the cost of everyone else's healthcare to make up for it. We have literally the least cost effective system possible.

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lobut lemmy.ca lobut@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-13
#64 · Quote Reply

"Why should I pay for someone else's healthcare?" Because one day, someone will pay your healthcare you absolutely rotten piece of shit.

I know no one on Lemmy likes Jubilee and I don't either, but I still watch it every now and again.

Last month there was a Gen Z politician vs Boomers and one of the old guys was talking about how student loan forgiveness shouldn't be done. The politician says you won't feel it. The Boomer said, they would because of the numbers of the ledger, politician says you'll feel it due to the all the people being able to contribute to the economy properly and giving it a huge boost. Boomer says him or his wife had their loans forgiven and it was a huge help, but that not everyone should get it.

Man, these fucking people.

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Arthur Besse lemmy.ml cypherpunks@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2022-01-17
#65 · (edited) Quote Reply

OP is a new second time, just to be clear.

OP is a new second time, just to be clear.

you sound very confident but you are mistaken. just to be clear: the screenshot in the post shows a still from the same video as the 2024 tweet i linked.

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neuracnu lemmy.blahaj.zone neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-06-14
#66 · Quote Reply

Sorry, I expect consequences for every motherfucker spending the last 2 years blatantly flaunting the law before healthcare.

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jaybone lemmy.zip jaybone@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-02-08
#67 · Quote Reply

what!? no! what about the poor insurance companies who charge more than a fucking mortgage?!

No worries. Since they own the democrats too, this will never happen.

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bertlewirth lemy.lol bertlewirth@lemy.lol
Joined: 2026-09-16
#68 · Quote Reply

No worries. Since they own the democrats too, this will never happen.

won't somebody PLEASE think of the billionaires!?

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naught101 lemmy.world naught101@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-05-08
#69 · Quote Reply

I'm assuming he thinks prisons have free healthcare.

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QueenHawlSera piefed.social QueenHawlSera@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-07-14
#70 · Quote Reply

He's threatening us with a good time.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#71 · (edited) Quote Reply

I have a friend whom I have this argument with frequently, not about health care specifically but other socialized benefits (e.g. SNAP). He's even a leftist, but still thinks he shouldn't have to pay for people who "take advantage of the system" (e.g. spend their SNAP benefits on things he doesn't believe should qualify, or receive SNAP benefits while spending their 'real' money on things he co...

are you sure hes a leftist, or one in NAME only. almost everyone that believes welfare should not be for POORs/POC is almost always a conservative. i know a couple people that are ON THE left in name only, but says alot of talking points of a republican and would rather vote R, if not for the pontential ostracization from thier immediately circles.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#72 · (edited) Quote Reply

There's a Fundamental Christian influencer named Aria Lewis who has that "insurance". She's been dealing with dental problems and basically made a post one day asking her followers if that insurance was a scam because she wasn't able to get the care she really needed It's crazy what problems people fall into when they choose something has "Christian" in the name over what everyone else is using

dental insurance is kinda of a scam, if you are not using an employer-sponsered one, they dont cover most things outside of cleanings. the ones i looked from the 3 well known dental insurance, have approximately the same kind of coverage for all 3 plans, the only difference some of them are more expensive. Employer- sponsored plans have very different coverage from the individual plans.

i like how they rail about dental/health insurance as a scam, while they use a more expensive version which is likely paying the full cost of dental care. i would imagine the fund would drain pretty fast if people are getting multiple cavities filled, and not even for other things like extractions, root canal and crowns, or periodontal care, or implants.

I ALSO notice some dental offices, offer thier own "insurance" in house, may or may not be expensive but that could be another avenue if people dont want to pay for better insurance.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#73 · Quote Reply

there's usually a 'process' and qualifications to get the bill covered by whatever 'community care' program the facility has. they will absolutely produce an invoice and expect payment or 'arrangements' upon discharge (which could include application for community care benefit). they will also absolutely send that billing to a collections agency as well. one of the hospitals near me sends a lot...

i like how the christian "health/dental" plans are exactly like actual insurance from like companies like cigna,aetna,delta-care,,,etc.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#74 · Quote Reply

I know no one on Lemmy likes Jubilee and I don't either, but I still watch it every now and again. Last month there was a Gen Z politician vs Boomers and one of the old guys was talking about how student loan forgiveness shouldn't be done. The politician says you won't feel it. The Boomer said, they would because of the numbers of the ledger, politician says you'll feel it due to the all the pe...

Jubilee is a conservative channel, that pretends to be on "both sides" they showed thier true colors when they host conservatives, magats , and even charlie kirk, to debate "woke" people, usually its 20 people vs the left all the time.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#75 · (edited) Quote Reply

I sometimes wonder if my MAGA Dad has had a change of heart. He used to be against universal healthcare because he "doesn't want to pay for some homeless addicts healthcare". But now he's been laid off and 6 months unemployed as a tech worker. I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate it being pointed out that he's living the stereotype he stigmatized for so many years. Or how slippery the slope is to ho...

hes going to do mental gymnasitcs,"im not one of those people, i worked 100k+/year job for decades, and i deserved it". if he was a diehard magat.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#76 · Quote Reply

It’s the Southern Strategy, but without Nixon’s charm or Reagan’s intelligence.

reagans intelligence is a stretch, he mostly had progressive symptoms of alzheimers around that that time, it is believed that nancy throat goat reagan and his cabinet was just pulling his strings 100% of the time.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#77 · Quote Reply

can you imagine trans people getting healthcare? atrocious. and the poor? how will their billionaire daddies feel special if everyone gets the same healthcare

usually welfare has been stereotyped for people of AA descent and poor.

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protist Member Joined: 2026-03-10
#78 · Quote Reply

And then a random dude in the middle takes a cut while providing no actual service.

The entire health insurance industry is built around taking a cut. Literally every single person who works for United Healthcare, BCBS, Aetna, and Humana is being paid by money the health insurance company took from you and is not using to provide healthcare. Not only that, but hospitals dedicate entire departments to battling health insurance companies for authorization for treatment. All that money could be redirected toward actually providing healthcare.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#79 · Quote Reply

As a MAGA with Treatable Cancer I would rather DIE a HORRIBLE PAINFUL and PREVENTABLE Death then to see ONE Minority Child Healthy!

funny thing is maga is more likely to believe in pseudoscience when faced with a chronic or deadly illness, they will do all sorts alternative medicines.

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KoboldCoterie pawb.social KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-06-05
#80 · Quote Reply

are you sure hes a leftist, or one in NAME only. almost everyone that believes welfare should not be for POORs/POC is almost always a conservative. i know a couple people that are ON THE left in name only, but says alot of talking points of a republican and would rather vote R, if not for the pontential ostracization from thier immediately circles.

I mean, I only know what I've gathered from our conversations, but his views align with mine on almost every other topic. That's why it baffles me so much that we don't agree on this one.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#81 · Quote Reply

I mean, I only know what I've gathered from our conversations, but his views align with mine on almost every other topic. That's why it baffles me so much that we don't agree on this one.

guess he dint fully buy into the manosphere/ right grifting circuit.

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dudeface lemmy.world dudeface@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-20
#82 · Quote Reply

It’s not hard to look at all other western countries and see that it works better in almost every area and overall costs less

And there is nothing stopping people from having private insurance on top of it

I don’t know why Americans are so easily brainwashed

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Delphia lemmy.world Delphia@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#83 · Quote Reply

Good god no. That sound worse than being thrown into a a pit of oily tiddies.

Tiddies are only a good thing when attatched to someone.

I will not explain how I know this.

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strawberry_enjoyer42 lemmy.blahaj.zone strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-04-20
#84 · Quote Reply

Tiddies are only a good thing when attatched to someone. I will not explain how I know this.

Are you sure you won't explain?

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strawberry_enjoyer42 lemmy.blahaj.zone strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-04-20
#85 · Quote Reply

It's a dogwhistle! If you don't hear it, congrats on not being racist

Ohhhhh... wow.

That is... I don't even know.

These people are vile.

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Echo Dot feddit.uk echodot@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-07-26
#86 · Quote Reply

It’s not hard to look at all other western countries and see that it works better in almost every area and overall costs less And there is nothing stopping people from having private insurance on top of it I don’t know why Americans are so easily brainwashed

What's interesting is the people don't have private healthcare. Yes it's an option and some people do take it but the vast majority don't including people that could easily afford it.

The very types that are most likely to complain about other people getting free healthcare are also the types to make use of it.

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Echo Dot feddit.uk echodot@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-07-26
#87 · Quote Reply

It’s the old “why should I pay for someone else’s healthcare???”. They’re too dumb to realize everyone else helps pay for their healthcare.

It's even more stupid than that. They're not even paying for their own healthcare. If you arrive in hospital and need several million pounds worth of medical treatment, there's no quibbling about whether or not you paid that much in they just get on with it.

The vast majority of people who suddenly require major surgery you actually pay considerably less over the course of a life paying via taxes then you ever would pay for private healthcare, also because it's the government just funding itself they don't make random numbers up when it comes to billing, it costs what it cost.

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strawberry_enjoyer42 lemmy.blahaj.zone strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-04-20
#88 · (edited) Quote Reply

It’s the Southern Strategy, but without Nixon’s charm or Reagan’s intelligence.

I should probably give this stuff some proper reading, but I'm curious about your take on it.

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lemmydividebyzero reddthat.com lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
Joined: 2024-08-28
#89 · Quote Reply

Some people in the USA celebrate relative success instead of absolute one.

"Is your life really better when others suffer?"

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FatVegan leminal.space FatVegan@leminal.space
Joined: 2025-11-05
#90 · Quote Reply

He's threatening us with a good time.

Have you considered that evreyone also means... BLACK PEOPLE?

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reddit_sux lemmy.world reddit_sux@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#91 · Quote Reply

Have you considered that evreyone also means... BLACK PEOPLE?

We can give some to the blacks, but what about the immigrants. How dare they get what is only reserved for the chosen few.

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reddit_sux lemmy.world reddit_sux@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#92 · Quote Reply

It's even more stupid than that. They're not even paying for their own healthcare. If you arrive in hospital and need several million pounds worth of medical treatment, there's no quibbling about whether or not you paid that much in they just get on with it. The vast majority of people who suddenly require major surgery you actually pay considerably less over the course of a life paying via tax...

Pound like a pound of fat, if so can it come from the belly area, they have tons over there. /S

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RampantParanoia2365 lemmy.world RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-02
#93 · Quote Reply

Only if you're a racist prick, which Trump voters are
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cub Gucci lemmy.today vivalapivo@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-15
#94 · Quote Reply

Why? 😰

Because I'm certain but they are not

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kunaltyagi programming.dev kunaltyagi@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-12
#95 · (edited) Quote Reply

Some people in the USA celebrate relative success instead of absolute one. "Is your life really better when others suffer?"

Keeping up with the Johnses down

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ilinamorato lemmy.world ilinamorato@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-27
#96 · Quote Reply

There's a Fundamental Christian influencer named Aria Lewis who has that "insurance". She's been dealing with dental problems and basically made a post one day asking her followers if that insurance was a scam because she wasn't able to get the care she really needed It's crazy what problems people fall into when they choose something has "Christian" in the name over what everyone else is using

Agreed 100%. Even as a Christian myself, I avoid businesses with "Christian" in the name. At best it feels like they're trying to say that they're the "Jesus-y" choice. At worst it means they're crooks trying to look legitimate. In either case they're probably maga.

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jumping redditor [they/them] sh.itjust.works jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-30
#97 · Quote Reply

Jubilee is a conservative channel, that pretends to be on "both sides" they showed thier true colors when they host conservatives, magats , and even charlie kirk, to debate "woke" people, usually its 20 people vs the left all the time.

Are there any channels you would consider non conservative that allow debates between racist talkshow hosts and non racist talkshow hosts?

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NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ lemmy.world NikkiDimes@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#98 · Quote Reply

It’s not hard to look at all other western countries and see that it works better in almost every area and overall costs less And there is nothing stopping people from having private insurance on top of it I don’t know why Americans are so easily brainwashed

The American education system has been slowly eroded over decades to create an easily manipulated population of sheep.

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lemmygarden lemmy.today lemmygarden@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-07-29
#99 · Quote Reply

It’s not hard to look at all other western countries and see that it works better in almost every area and overall costs less And there is nothing stopping people from having private insurance on top of it I don’t know why Americans are so easily brainwashed

Americans don't know how misinformed they are.

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ilinamorato lemmy.world ilinamorato@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-27
#100 · (edited) Quote Reply

The Democrats are just as fascist: Biden/Harris had the entire Epstein file suite and did absolutely nothing with it Obama/Biden built the policy power to do the mass deportations and city-deployments of ICE that Trump is now using Biden knew this and changed literally nothing about it when he was president Obama/Biden deported more people than Trump has Obama/Biden appointed Tom Homan as depor...

The crazy thing is, I actually agree with you about your list, and that the US has told a fairy tale for the past two and a half centuries about how we're the good guys and they're the bad guys, and so forth. But then

The Democrats are just as fascist

is just laughable in pretty much every conceivable way. Are they still bad? Yes! But have they sent a secret police around the country to tear "undesirables" out of their homes and send them to countries they've never been without due process? Are they currently plotting to overthrow the election or stay in power despite losing that election? Did they, in the past two years, allow an unelected billionaire to destroy entire government agencies by fiat?

Ah-ah-ah! I hear you saying "but they voted to approve ICE funding" or "but they didn't do anything to stop any of it" or "but Obama deported a bunch of people too" or "Democratic gerrymandering"—no. I didn't ask if they allowed it to happen. I didn't ask for whatabouts. I asked if they were behind the worst, most criminal activities being perpetrated by the US government at this very moment. I asked if they are doing it now. Are they the prime movers?

No? Then you can't say "just as fascist." That might've been true ten years ago---actually, aside from the election fraud, it almost definitely was---and I could maybe even see an argument that their evil was in the same order of magnitude as recently as two years ago, but equating the two since Trump 2 is like comparing a viper bite to a meteor entering the atmosphere. They're both imminently dangerous, sure, but the difference in the scale of damage would be almost laughable if the harm wasn't currently in progress.

The country needs to be fixed. I don't think the Democrats are going to do it. But I'm not going to do anything to aid the people who are going to make it more broken, so I'm going to leave off turning on people who will be on our team until after the existential threat to our loved ones and ourselves is past.

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lemmygarden lemmy.today lemmygarden@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-07-29
#101 · Quote Reply

We can give some to the blacks, but what about the immigrants. How dare they get what is only reserved for the chosen few.

You failed to mention... Trans!!!!

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