The giant corporation...I think you need to re-read their comment. They don't care about any losses for major corps (honestly a fully reasonable position) but condemned theft or destruction against businesses owned by regular people.

In this situation two major corps suffer loses, that's a win for the common folk.

The giant corporation

It's always funny reading bad economics, it almost always seems to boil down to: someone else will pay

that’s a win for the common folk

You're going to be so surprised when you find out who pays for the insurance in the end

The giant corporations love this. Majority of these shops will go under and big business can scoop up these properties for cheap. Looting is trashy and makes the common folk want more security.

Even if they were taking only bread, what do the brand of sneakers matter? What are you suggesting? An ethical looter would fashion their own footwear out of burlap and string or something instead of wearing whatever footwear they have handy?

The productive class is choked from the two sides of the parasite class: the billionaire parasites and the low-life parasites. Time to fight back on both. Words will not fix this.

Actual people rarely use the same insurance companies that the major corps use, sure some genuine small businesses will get mixed up in it but majority of them are with the small time insurance companies.

For the most part it will only affect the regular people if the government provides subsidies and bailouts to the insurance company, which is a practice that needs to end or at least come with the caveat of forced removal and investigation of all leadership positions from board to CEO to management as well as turning the company over to the employees.

Lmao open a history book

if they are taking a bottle of water and a sandwich because they are exhausted, that's fine. If they are taking expensive electronics and brand clothes, they are low-life scum deliberately allowed to behave like this by the oppressive class, to taint the protests. It's hard to see which is happening on this video, but I am assuming the latter.

In most civilized countries, that is illegal and not happening, since that would defeat the entire point of insurance. I had a fire in my home, the insurance paid, I'm still with the same insurer and my rate stayed the same.

If you can afford Nike, you can afford a loaf of bread. I've met people in developing countries who are wearing sandals worn paper thin and are pushing most of what they own around on a cart. They get only one meal a day, and still refuse to steal - instead, they do whatever they can to make an honest living, however modest it may be. Those are the ones who deserve sympathy and respect, not the hooligans barging their way into shops to help themselves.

Where do you live where Nike is only a luxury brand and doesn't have any common, cheap footwear? Nobody in this video is wearing a US$300 pair.

that’s right, it’s the people!

If the cost of insurance goes up, the input cost to the business goes up and that gets passed on to the consumer

History? I prefer Herstory.

People here are actually ridiculous, defending looters. What kind of planet are you from where looting is okay?

If they're looting from a business with a c-suite - fuck 'em, let it burn.

Looting from an independent business is scum.

A much stronger message would be sent if multinational chains were left in ruins, but the locally owned businesses untouched and protected.

They aren't stealing bread for their children

Good, it gives small businesses a chance to compete. The people can support local instead.

... you mean like how periods of unrest like this almost always result in a reactionary power grab? You either overthrow the government or it happens without fail.

People will militantly defend their own bondage.

This is why I'm glad for videos like this one, showing the reasonable people

Just more white tears, "someone please think of the businesses". Riots are a natural response to extreme injustice. She has no political analysis on what's happening, it's sad. The good protester vs bad protester narrative misses the point entirely. This is the result of the accumulated trauma imposed by the racial and wealth hierarchy of capitalism onto people. Even many small businesses can be corrupt and exploit their workers and communities. She wants to protect her comfortable neoliberal reality, the same one that causes black and brown kids she doesn't care about to starve or freeze to death

just more white tears

Or you know, brain cells. Blind destruction of legitimate service is a response of a toddler not a just individual.

Unpopular opinion but these looting are destroying any legitimacy protesters have. It's so cringe.

Since when is asking where you got your weird ideas about shoes defending looting?

They ruin the look of the protest for pennies

The guys took fruits and shampoo, the protest is against the cost of living!

Bizarely some other shops were more heavily guarded by cops, like the chocolate family shop of president's wife

Breaking into businesses and taking things isn't a response to injustice its just opportunistically enriching yourself under the cover of unrest. People who are angry fight vote convince others disrupt normal operations and forcing a reckoning. Lazy greedy people take random shit and stupid people defend them.

A++ addition to include random bigotry further degrading the discourse while adding nothing to the discussion because you and you personally are incapable of adding anything of value to the world.

It's actually a fairly stupid position because random theft helps the other side paint the side you presumably care about as criminals whilst others actually care about the issues.

The only way people have to take back what corporations take from us.

The side that believes those things will view any protest that way if they didn't already believe in the cause, no matter how peaceful it is. The sacks of shit looting really don't move the needle on public opinion and as long as they stick to mega corps they are still the least of the problems.

Also the police everywhere on the planet routinely will infiltrate protests and start shit like this to do exactly what you have described, there truly is no way to have a meaningful protest without things getting ugly.

And finally...why must everything that ever occurs during a protest be blamed on the protesters and the cause? Why are any looters automatically assumed to be part of it and not just opportunistic pieces of shit or even straight up agitators and saboteurs?

You are part of the problem here, whether you realize it or intend for it.

There were around 6 to 800 000 people across the country. There's been a handful of incidents, looting included, in a handful of cities, by a small number of people. It's going to happen. Saying it delegitimizes the whole movement is just playing the fascist agenda.

It's a multi-national grocery store. You're ruining the look of the protest because you can only focus on this. You're playing into Macron's hand by reacting like they want you to be.

Nah, saying it delegitimizes the whole movement is valid. You're the one that's validating fascist agenda by justifying unjust behavior.

Protests are not binary, some are better than others.

Do local businesses not need insurance? and have you seen any signs the french looters are differentiating between local and big businesses?

A French small business owner has his video game store looted

https://lemmy.world/post/53300012

We covered those points already in this conversation/thread. Get some new propaganda, the old shit ain't working as well to quell the dissent.

lol you guys suck 🤣