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A_norny_mousse
piefed.social
A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-09-27 |
I want to try out some things with a secondary domain. I’d prefer ethical and non-shady providers. I have a fixed IP and a VPS to go with it, so it’s really only about the domain. A subdomain of my current domain is not enough. A subdomain of the provider would be OK but not ideal. Doing some preliminary research, the keyword seems to be Dynamic DNS even if I have a static IP. There are providers but those that pop up easily do not instil much confidence. I want to hear the Fediverse's opinions! I haven't found any recent posts about this. TIA |
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databender
lemmy.world
databender@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Afraid.org, used to use that |
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Joined: 2026-02-16 |
https://nic.ua/en/domains/prices ukrainian registrar, gives pp.ua for free for one year, renewable. will ask for cc details. legit |
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LifeInMultipleChoice
lemmy.world
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-17 |
Not sure the use-case but if its temporary: Maybe someone can tell me why they are unethical or you shouldn't use them but I believe you can get a free domain usually from noip Should be noip.com I believe |
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Jason2357
lemmy.ca
Jason2357@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-11 |
Most of those free dns settups use subdomains already. Unless you cant, for a temporary domain name, I recommend just creating an account at a mainstream/reputable dns provider and buying whatever is on sale for a dollar or two per year. Dont plan on renewing because those ones shoot up. Hopefully the .self tld becomes a thing because it is supposed to be free: https://hccf.onmy.cloud/2026/06/21/reclaiming-our-digital-selves-hccfs-vision-for-a-human-centered-top-level-domain/ |
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Ooops
feddit.org
Ooops@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-07-06 |
Not sure the use-case but if its temporary: (Otherwise you have to respond monthly saying you are still using it) Maybe someone can tell me why they are unethical or you shouldn't use them but I believe you can get a free domain usually from noip Should be noip.com I believe
Up to three, including stuff like mx entries. For the free tier you get a mail every 30 days with a link to confirm that you are still using that name and that's it. |
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trojanbark
lemmy.world
trojanbark@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-13 |
Not sure the use-case but if its temporary: (Otherwise you have to respond monthly saying you are still using it) Maybe someone can tell me why they are unethical or you shouldn't use them but I believe you can get a free domain usually from noip Should be noip.com I believe
i use them and i am satisfied |
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jaybone
lemmy.zip
jaybone@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-02-08 |
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non_burglar
lemmy.world
non_burglar@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
Afraid.org, used to use that
Ya, it does what it says on the tin. My domain there is nearly 17 years old now. |
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A_norny_mousse
piefed.social
A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-09-27 |
Ya, it does what it says on the tin. My domain there is nearly 17 years old now.
That's good to hear 👍 |
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A_norny_mousse
piefed.social
A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-09-27 |
https://nic.ua/en/domains/prices ukrainian registrar, gives pp.ua for free for one year, renewable. will ask for cc details. legit
Thanks, this looks good.
So far I never had any problems making stuff up there. |
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A_norny_mousse
piefed.social
A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-09-27 |
I use free.nf for free subdomains and free hosting. Don’t know how ethical or not ethical they are. Edit: infinityfree is actually the name, they offer different free subdomains on some set of names they own. free.nf is one of them.
Thanks. Based in NL is certainly a plus. |
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ultimaluz
lemmy.world
ultimaluz@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-09-17 |
nobody said desec.io yet, it's a non profit from berlin and they give free subdomains under dedyn.io, with a proper API, so you can do the DNS challenge for let's encrypt (there's a caddy plugin for it too). I haven't run a domain there myself so can't say how it is long term, but for a "try some things" domain it looks like the least shady of the free ones I guess. |
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purplemonkeymad
programming.dev
purplemonkeymad@programming.dev Joined: 2023-08-08 |
What are you looking to do? If it's to do with a name server, you can delegate a subdomain and it's children to be managed by another server using a ns record. This is actually how DNS works in general. |
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gera
feddit.nu
gera@feddit.nu Joined: 2025-01-20 |
Most of those free dns settups use subdomains already. Unless you cant, for a temporary domain name, I recommend just creating an account at a mainstream/reputable dns provider and buying whatever is on sale for a dollar or two per year. Dont plan on renewing because those ones shoot up. Hopefully the .self tld becomes a thing because it is supposed to be free: https://hccf.onmy.cloud/2026/06/2...
That exists? I only seen such price for first year only, then it's normal 15$ or higher |
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cmnybo
discuss.tchncs.de
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-06-11 |
a dollar or two per year That exists? I only seen such price for first year only, then it's normal 15$ or higher
It's rare to find a domain that will renew that cheap. The ones that I've seen are usually a sale price or they don't include WHOIS privacy. There are a couple that will renew for around $4 like .top and .de. |
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guycls
lemmy.world
guycls@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
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sonstwas
sh.itjust.works
sonstwas@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-11 |
Thanks. Based in NL is certainly a plus.
fyi, it's |
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SteveTech
aussie.zone
SteveTech@aussie.zone Joined: 2025-09-30 |
If you don't mind using alternative DNS servers, meaning this won't be accessible to the average person, you could try OpenNIC. |
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plissken
piefed.social
plissken@piefed.social Joined: 2026-10-04 |
Thanks, this looks good. will ask for cc details. So far I never had any problems making stuff up there.
Now that's something I would like to learn, how? |
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B0rax
feddit.org
B0rax@feddit.org Joined: 2024-07-22 |
If you don't mind using alternative DNS servers, meaning this won't be accessible to the average person, you could try OpenNIC.
Interesting, I did not come across this one before |
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A_norny_mousse
piefed.social
A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-09-27 |
http://pagekite.net/
Interesting free tier option:
And they're from Iceland. And GDPR-compliant. And FOSS. ❤️❤️❤️ I think we have a winner. Let's see how they respond to my explanations. |
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A_norny_mousse
piefed.social
A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-09-27 |
fyi, it's .nf not .nl, and apparently that's for the Norfolk Islands.
Are you saying website owners are always located in the country their .tld belongs to? I'm looking for solutions here, so I did go to the actual site and checked before I wrote the above. |
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A_norny_mousse
piefed.social
A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-09-27 |
Now that's something I would like to learn, how?
Not sure how to explain how imagination works. Unless you meant something else? |
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A_norny_mousse
piefed.social
A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-09-27 |
If you don't mind using alternative DNS servers, meaning this won't be accessible to the average person, you could try OpenNIC.
I do mind not being accessible to the average person. |
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sonstwas
sh.itjust.works
sonstwas@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-11 |
Are you saying website owners are always located in the country their .tld belongs to? I'm looking for solutions here, so I did go to the actual site and checked before I wrote the above.
I'm saying that the TLD .nf is for the Norfolk Islands and not the Netherlands, nothing more. That probably also means that Norfolk Islands is the legal authority over domains under that TLD regardless where the organization may be. Anyway, I just wanted to be nice, but alas... |
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HiTekRedNek
lemmy.world
HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-05 |
a dollar or two per year That exists? I only seen such price for first year only, then it's normal 15$ or higher
I pay just over $7 USD a year for my .link domain. I originally got it through Spaceship.com but transferred it to cloudflare this year. |
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plissken
piefed.social
plissken@piefed.social Joined: 2026-10-04 |
Not sure how to explain how imagination works. Unless you meant something else?
I assumed cc details are validated. If all one need to do is to provide imaginative cc details then I need no further explanation |
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maso
lemmus.org
maso@lemmus.org Joined: 2026-04-03 |
nobody said desec.io yet, it's a non profit from berlin and they give free subdomains under dedyn.io, with a proper API, so you can do the DNS challenge for let's encrypt (there's a caddy plugin for it too). I haven't run a domain there myself so can't say how it is long term, but for a "try some things" domain it looks like the least shady of the free ones I guess.
Yea I use desec with the caddy plugin as well and it was super easy to setup! Haven’t really had any issues relating to my domain that I am aware of |
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lemmyvore
feddit.nl
lemmyvore@feddit.nl Joined: 2023-06-15 |
nobody said desec.io yet, it's a non profit from berlin and they give free subdomains under dedyn.io, with a proper API, so you can do the DNS challenge for let's encrypt (there's a caddy plugin for it too). I haven't run a domain there myself so can't say how it is long term, but for a "try some things" domain it looks like the least shady of the free ones I guess.
*.dedyn.io registrations are discontinued indefinitely right now unfortunately, following a wave of abusive registrations. |
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lemmyvore
feddit.nl
lemmyvore@feddit.nl Joined: 2023-06-15 |
That's good to hear 👍
Yeah use the "Registry" link on their sidebar and sort by age. The oldest domains on there are not going anywhere. |
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NotEasyBeingGreen
slrpnk.net
NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-03-30 |
You can try EU.org possibly. |
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doogstar
lemmy.100010101.xyz
doogstar@lemmy.100010101.xyz Joined: 2023-08-16 |
It's rare to find a domain that will renew that cheap. The ones that I've seen are usually a sale price or they don't include WHOIS privacy. There are a couple that will renew for around $4 like .top and .de.
6-9 digit numeric .xyz domains are 99 cents per year. They're obviously a bit niche but super cheap! |
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Jason2357
lemmy.ca
Jason2357@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-11 |
a dollar or two per year That exists? I only seen such price for first year only, then it's normal 15$ or higher
Yes. Choose those only for temporary projects. |
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pathos
lemmy.ml
pathos@lemmy.ml Joined: 2022-01-13 |
Interesting free tier option: Feeling broke? Instead of paying, you can leave us a friendly message or tell us how you use PageKite, and get free service in return. And they're from Iceland. And GDPR-compliant. And FOSS. ❤️❤️❤️ I think we have a winner. Let's see how they respond to my explanations.
Amazing! |
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said
lemmy.sdf.org
said@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-06-16 |
Different take but nip.io and sslip.io just let you use your IP as your domain. When you use the hex notation, it's shorter, more usable and subdomains can just be used at will. Depending your IP address you may even get lucky and get a vanity looking subdomain. Granted it'll be fixed as long as your IP is not changing. When it does, you gotta switch domains. I'm mentioning this because you said your IP is fixed and I have a similar use with these. |
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just_an_average_joe
lemmy.dbzer0.com
just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-08-02 |
"The .tk domain (Tokelau’s country code) was known for letting people register at no cost under certain conditions, often for 1 year at a time. However, free .tk registrations ended after Meta sued Freenom in March 2023 over abuse and lookalike phishing-related activity." I only remember .tk And mandatory fuck meta |
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9488fcea02a9
sh.itjust.works
9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-11 |
"The .tk domain (Tokelau’s country code) was known for letting people register at no cost under certain conditions, often for 1 year at a time. However, free .tk registrations ended after Meta sued Freenom in March 2023 over abuse and lookalike phishing-related activity." I only remember .tk And mandatory fuck meta
Wow!!! I had no idea about the free registration thing! I remember a lot of websites in the early 2000s had .tk addresses... also i had a band back then and the guy in charge of the website registered it as .tk and i never knew why.... FUCK ZUCK, FUCK FACEBOOK, FUCK META |
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A_norny_mousse
piefed.social
A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-09-27 |
You can try EU.org possibly.
Nice. Just registered an account and tried to register a subdomain.eu.org to my VPS' IPv4 address, but I keep getting SOA from SUBDOMAIN.EU.ORG at nnn.nn.nn.nn: Error: Timeout Maybe I just have to wait but I'm not sure I'm doing this right at all... |
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A_norny_mousse
piefed.social
A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-09-27 |
Different take but nip.io and sslip.io just let you use your IP as your domain. When you use the hex notation, it's shorter, more usable and subdomains can just be used at will. Depending your IP address you may even get lucky and get a vanity looking subdomain. Granted it'll be fixed as long as your IP is not changing. When it does, you gotta switch domains. I'm mentioning this because you sai...
Not my use case, but it's amazing that this exists. No registration necessary. |
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ultimaluz
lemmy.world
ultimaluz@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-09-17 |
*.dedyn.io registrations are discontinued indefinitely right now unfortunately, following a wave of abusive registrations.
oh, didn't know that, thanks for the heads up. deSEC still hosts dns for free if you bring your own domain I think, so a cheap one plus deSEC for the acme dns challenge still works, just not the free subdomain part |
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ultimaluz
lemmy.world
ultimaluz@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-09-17 |
Yea I use desec with the caddy plugin as well and it was super easy to setup! Haven’t really had any issues relating to my domain that I am aware of
Good to hear it's been smooth, the caddy plugin was the main reason I looked at it in the first place. |
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NotEasyBeingGreen
slrpnk.net
NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-03-30 |
Nice. Just registered an account and tried to register a subdomain.eu.org to my VPS' IPv4 address, but I keep getting SOA from SUBDOMAIN.EU.ORG at nnn.nn.nn.nn: Error: Timeout Maybe I just have to wait but I'm not sure I'm doing this right at all...
What DNS software are you running? |
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A_norny_mousse
piefed.social
A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-09-27 |
What DNS software are you running?
Client or server? |
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NotEasyBeingGreen
slrpnk.net
NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-03-30 |
Client or server?
You need to have an authoritative DNS server listening and answering somewhere. Is this running at your home? If it is, then try querying the IP directly. The most commonly used tool is "dig", but other ones are available. It should look something like: dig @your-public-IP subdomain.eu.org |
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A_norny_mousse
piefed.social
A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-09-27 |
You need to have an authoritative DNS server listening and answering somewhere. Is this running at your home? If it is, then try querying the IP directly. The most commonly used tool is "dig", but other ones are available. It should look something like: dig @your-public-IP subdomain.eu.org
OK, no I don't have that. Did not know that was required to get a .eu.org subdomain. |
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said
lemmy.sdf.org
said@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-06-16 |
Not my use case, but it's amazing that this exists. No registration necessary.
Yeah, another nice use case is using it at your local dev environment where you can use a single lan IP or even loopback IP and have many domains to differentiate your services mirroring the actual DNS hosted version without messing around the hosts file or local DNS server records. Since their subdomains also resolve to local IPs, you automatically get infinite local address subdomains. As long as you don't mind it'll resolve via remote name server but they won't be able to reach back to your local IPs anyway. |
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lemmyvore
feddit.nl
lemmyvore@feddit.nl Joined: 2023-06-15 |
oh, didn't know that, thanks for the heads up. deSEC still hosts dns for free if you bring your own domain I think, so a cheap one plus deSEC for the acme dns challenge still works, just not the free subdomain part
Yeah, they still host for free. I think they've limited the amount of domains you can host per account though, again due to abuse because there were actors that were bringing in thousands of domains I believe. But if you just want to host one domain it's fine. The API makes the difference (vs DNS services at the registrar), DeSEC is well supported by most tools so you can do DDNS and DNS-01 with it without problems. |
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ultimaluz
lemmy.world
ultimaluz@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-09-17 |
Yeah, they still host for free. I think they've limited the amount of domains you can host per account though, again due to abuse because there were actors that were bringing in thousands of domains I believe. But if you just want to host one domain it's fine. The API makes the difference (vs DNS services at the registrar), DeSEC is well supported by most tools so you can do DDNS and DNS-01 wit...
good to know about the limit, thanks. for one domain plus DNS-01 that's all most of us need anyway |
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lemmyvore
feddit.nl
lemmyvore@feddit.nl Joined: 2023-06-15 |
good to know about the limit, thanks. for one domain plus DNS-01 that's all most of us need anyway
Yeah I can understand small self-hosters having maybe a handful of domains but some users were coming in with thousands. I mean if you have thousands of domains there's obviously something else going on and maybe you should be paying someone for that. |
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