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#52 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

They still... Have meat in their diet? I've never understood this argument. It reaks of bad faith and bullshit. Yes they eat less meat. No they are not a magic wonderland of vegetarians.

Yeah, I think you need to look up Indians and their diets better. Some Indians eat meat, others are completely vegetarians, around 50%. I know they have religious rules against eating meat, any meat.

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#53 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

You're a toddler my dude. But you're also probably a troll who enjoys riling people up. So honestly, whatever...
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#54 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

Oh, no. You won't Poe me. No one is actually this stupid.
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#55 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

Wow, I didn't know they managed to resurrect some cavemen.
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#56 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

The science says that a little bit of meat is fine, just like a little bit of anything is fine. It doesn't say that no meat is less healthy, and usually says that no meat is, in fact, healthier. I'd even guess that whatever amount you eat is more than the amount that is recommended, especially if you are bragging about eating fish you caught. You could easily get mercury poisoning that way. See...
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#57 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

You would make an excellent yehaaw scientist.
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#58 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

Can we at least try eating grasshoppers first?

The wings get stuck in my teeth ๐Ÿ˜ž

I haven't tried huffing the powder though

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#59 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

They suffer malnutrition often. Your datum for this claim is your bank account for that claim? Wut? Are you implying you're a vegetarian?
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#60 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

As of today in the UK (as an example) Beef: 9.11 GBP / kg (at ~ 23g protein/100g raw beef) is 3.96 GBP /100g protein. Tofu: 1.80 GBP/ 450g (at ~ 16g protein/100g tofu) is 2.50 GBP /100 protein. So how exactly is meat cheaper?
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#61 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

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puts hand on your shoulder I remember my first weeks in the Fediverse, too.

gazes at this comment thread We need to be kind to one another, there simply is too much divisiveness out there. Let Lemmy be a place of positive reassurance and-

puts other hand on your shoulder

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shalafi
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#62 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

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I've seen that online and IRL, but to counter, I had a 52-yo vegan gf who ran 5-miles a day, every day, ran marathons when she trained up, closet full of medals. That woman was 5'10" of twisted steel and sex appeal, nothing unhealthy about her.

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#63 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

People are ready to do anything, but stop eating meat.

Is that surprising? At all? It's literally in our nature.

I mean, no offense but I will continue to do what I can to be able to eat meat, it makes my life better.

I'm all for synthetic meats, or lab grown meats, as those become available. If there are more sustainable options, great. (As long as it tastes like meat)

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#64 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

I've seen that online and IRL, but to counter, I had a 52-yo vegan gf who ran 5-miles a day, every day, ran marathons when she trained up, closet full of medals. That woman was 5'10" of twisted steel and sex appeal, nothing unhealthy about her.
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#65 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

puts hand on your shoulder I remember my first weeks in the Fediverse, too. gazes at this comment thread We need to be kind to one another, there simply is too much divisiveness out there. Let Lemmy be a place of positive reassurance and- puts other hand on your shoulder
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#66 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

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So, uh, what about my ex-gf vegan marathon runner? Can you run 5 miles a day, every single day?

I know anecdotes aren't evidence, but if you want to come off like, "this is a universal truth", then I can rebut that.

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#67 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

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She was nothing but muscle, and not the cadaverous thing some vegans end up as. Nothing unhealthy in her appearance, no supplements in her diet, which you claim will be necessary.

Oh wait. Goalposts moved. NM.

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Solumbran
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#68 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

That's great for you. Again I never said it was everyone. But a portion of people who try, sometimes a few years later, they find that they have low energy, muscle mass and strength loss. Especially athletes and extremely fit people. Sometimes women notice similar problems when pregnant, and they have to eat meat until they give birth, then give it up again. Vegetarians and vegans frequently cl...

Yeah, you need to take into account nutrients and the amount of protein you have. But you also need that if you're eating meat, earlier I was reading that like 5% americans have enough fibers, people simply don't care about what they est and that's the problem. But I'd take low energy as a warning sign, above cancer.

Nutrition is something that you need to think about. And yeah, people don't do it right most of the time.

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#69 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

Is that surprising? At all? It's literally in our nature. I mean, no offense but I will continue to do what I can to be able to eat meat, it makes my life better. I'm all for synthetic meats, or lab grown meats, as those become available. If there are more sustainable options, great. (As long as it tastes like meat)

The nature of humans is absolutely not to eat meat everyday.

If anything, it's much more natural for humans to go without meat, than to eat meat everyday.

Also cancer is rarely making your life better.

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#70 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

Just one step away from genetically engineering the chicken salmon!

mmm... salmon wings

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#71 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

Yeah, I think you need to look up Indians and their diets better. Some Indians eat meat, others are completely vegetarians, around 50%. I know they have religious rules against eating meat, any meat.

It's really a Hindu, rather than a specifically Indian, thing. But India is majority Hindu, so.

Hinduism encourages vegetarianism, and it is considered more moral than eating meat since you aren't killing an animal. However, only Brahmins are required to be vegetarian; other castes can eat non-cow meat if they like, though refraining from doing so is considered better. Since the Brahmins are the highest caste, vegetarianism is a conservative position in India, while the woke SJWs defend religious minorities' traditions of eating meat.

But, as has been said, this all means that India has a higher than average proportion of vegetarians, and even the lower-caste vegetarians are no less healthy than foreigners of comparable social class.

There are also degrees of vegetarianism. A former housemate of mine is a vegetarian for religious reasons, but he didn't mind eating a cupcake I'd made which he didn't realise had egg in it.

One of my current housemates eats meat but his dad is a Brahmin, and said dad can't even eat vegetarian food that was prepared in cookware which had meat in it at some point. To cater to the really strict Brahmins, there are "double vegetarian" restaurants, where all the food is meat-free and the staff are all vegetarians.

Indians recognise the word vegan because of English hegemony, but they don't use it themselves. They refer to such people as "true vegetarians"; I think the Jains fall here.

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#72 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

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What is typically called 'a waste of humanity's effort'

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#73 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

The wings get stuck in my teeth ๐Ÿ˜ž I haven't tried huffing the powder though

Coward

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#74 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

The nature of humans is absolutely not to eat meat everyday. If anything, it's much more natural for humans to go without meat, than to eat meat everyday. Also cancer is rarely making your life better.

It is the nature of humans to crave meat, we enjoy it. That's the real issue. There is a very real quality of life benefit it provides to us. Maybe you don't need that, and if so, that's great for you. But because it really does make life better for so many people, you're not going to see the majority of humans giving up meat any time soon. That's the reality.

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#75 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

What if we make them eat the grasshoppers instead of us?

I'm not worried about salmon or chickens eating me.

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#76 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

We have already had that for a long time, fishmeal for example. One of the contributing reasons for high amounts of dioxins in egg production.

And the fishy taste of eggs... Can remember egg packages with the claim 'made without fishmeal'

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#77 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

And the fishy taste of eggs... Can remember egg packages with the claim 'made without fishmeal'

If you have a small lot you can keep chickens yourself. Know a few people around me doing that.

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raspberriesareyummy
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#78 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

It is the nature of humans to crave meat, we enjoy it. That's the real issue. There is a very real quality of life benefit it provides to us. Maybe you don't need that, and if so, that's great for you. But because it really does make life better for so many people, you're not going to see the majority of humans giving up meat any time soon. That's the reality.

Nah dude, I love the taste of meat but I am 99% vegetarian since 2012 or so and we absolutely don't "crave" meat. That's a learned habit. Find enjoyable vegetarian meals and you will eat less and less meat.

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#79 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

Yeah, you need to take into account nutrients and the amount of protein you have. But you also need that if you're eating meat, earlier I was reading that like 5% americans have enough fibers, people simply don't care about what they est and that's the problem. But I'd take low energy as a warning sign, above cancer. Nutrition is something that you need to think about. And yeah, people don't do...

Nutrition is something that you need to think about. And yeah, people don't do it right most of the time.

That's the thing though, you have to devote way more time and energy to designing a balanced diet. And even then, depending on where you live, it can take even more time and effort to actually find the food you need. Outside more urban areas, vegetarian-friendly restaurants and markets can be scarce. Your nutritional considerations become a major part of your life, and most people just don't have time for that.

But that's not the only thing, there's the social aspect. Eating is very frequently a social activity. Cutting out meat makes it much more difficult to engage in communal meals, be it restaurants or potlucks. On top of difficulty in finding good options, there's the unspoken tension that being a vegetarian around people actively eating meat creates, especially in meat-centric contexts like barbecues or Thanksgiving dinner. The social difficulties can make it too alienating a prospect for most people.

I get it, but it's just not rational to expect the majority of people to cut out meat. I've tried.

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#80 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

And the fishy taste of eggs... Can remember egg packages with the claim 'made without fishmeal'

and then salmon starts to taste like chicken.

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#81 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

I'm not worried about salmon or chickens eating me.

chickens are omnivirous so yes they would eat you, they just need like hundresd of them to peck you.

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#82 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

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It will be when they start feeding them left over salmon heads, tails, fins, etc. These capitalists wont let that fine source of calories go to waste.

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#83 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

It will be when they start feeding them left over salmon heads, tails, fins, etc. These capitalists wont let that fine source of calories go to waste.

The chicken or the salmon?

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#84 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

Brother, I crave prions.

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#85 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

If we ever get invaded by aliens, they are gonna laugh their asses off.

So why don't you eat food you grow

See, it's really smart actually. We feed it to the chicken, then we feed the chicken to the salmon and then ww throw away most of it, but we eat some of it.

Your planet is dying.

LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS

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#86 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

So it's not that we grow chicken to feed it to salmon, we use the leftovers that would otherwise go to waste. This is good!

Granted, of course, that sanitary standards are followed. In the EU, I don't expect it to be a problem.

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#87 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

Y'all, a lot of farm raised tilapia is fed chicken manure or pellets made with manure. Look up some Aquaculture setups where chickens poop into a pond to feed fish, the fish feed water to fertilize plants.

Typically, pathogens don't jump and survive between species like this. This is a zero percent news item other than "why use inefficient chickens for the protein input?" Black soldier fly large eating compost and food waste should be the go-to option.

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#88 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

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#89 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

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90% of India looking at you like you're an idiot because of what you just said.

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#90 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

Nah dude, I love the taste of meat but I am 99% vegetarian since 2012 or so and we absolutely don't "crave" meat. That's a learned habit. Find enjoyable vegetarian meals and you will eat less and less meat.

Hey, I lived mostly vegetarian for several years as well, I get it. It's totally doable, you do sort of get used to it. But when I stopped cooking for vegetarians, I went back to eating meat, and it was a relief.

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#91 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

I've seen that online and IRL, but to counter, I had a 52-yo vegan gf who ran 5-miles a day, every day, ran marathons when she trained up, closet full of medals. That woman was 5'10" of twisted steel and sex appeal, nothing unhealthy about her.

twisted steel and sex appeal

Album name right there.

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#92 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

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How much does the truth hurt?

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#93 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

The chicken or the salmon?

yes

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#94 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

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Creutzfeldt-Jacob comes for a visit!

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#95 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

So it's not that we grow chicken to feed it to salmon, we use the leftovers that would otherwise go to waste. This is good! Granted, of course, that sanitary standards are followed. In the EU, I don't expect it to be a problem.

Granted, of course, that sanitary standards are followed. In the EU, I donโ€™t expect it to be a problem.

I've seen a documentary a while back that the fish feed from the baltic sea used for fish farms is pretty toxic.

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#96 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

Hey, I lived mostly vegetarian for several years as well, I get it. It's totally doable, you do sort of get used to it. But when I stopped cooking for vegetarians, I went back to eating meat, and it was a relief.

Not for the livestock, it wasn't. :p

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#97 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

So it's not that we grow chicken to feed it to salmon, we use the leftovers that would otherwise go to waste. This is good! Granted, of course, that sanitary standards are followed. In the EU, I don't expect it to be a problem.

Seriously it's in the body of text in the post. Leftovers of the chickens that cannt be used for humans dogs and cats get used for the fish.

This is like people arguing against leather at this point when millions of animals are being slaughtered and their hides are being thrown into landfills because demand is so low. If they are already slaughtering the animals, use the parts. As demand for cows/chickens comes down find alternatives, but throwing away parts of a slaughtered animal is worse to me.

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#98 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

Not for the livestock, it wasn't. :p

You know, one could measure the "evolutionary success" of a species by how much they are able to reproduce and pass on their genes to another generation. So the species with the highest population, or greatest biomass (either way you want to measure) could be called the most successful. By that metric the chicken would be the most evolutionarily successful bird in the world. Food for thought. ๐Ÿ˜œ

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#99 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

Is this what they mean by the chicken of the sea

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#100 Posted:   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

Granted, of course, that sanitary standards are followed. In the EU, I donโ€™t expect it to be a problem. I've seen a documentary a while back that the fish feed from the baltic sea used for fish farms is pretty toxic.

All fish are contaminated with some kind of pollution. One of my lab mates in grad school did a study that showed there is no region of the oceans where caught fish do not have statistically significant levels of BPAs.

This is why they tell you to not eat salmon or tuna more than once a week.

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#101 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: Farmed salmon are now being fed chicken - and it might ac... Quote Reply

All fish are contaminated with some kind of pollution. One of my lab mates in grad school did a study that showed there is no region of the oceans where caught fish do not have statistically significant levels of BPAs. This is why they tell you to not eat salmon or tuna more than once a week.

Sorry I think I misunderstood the comment I replied to a little. But basically even in the EU anyone should prefer salmon that is fed chickenmeal or poultrymeal instead of fishmeal, because the contamination accumulates. And the baltic where a lot of the fishmeal came from (or at least used to come from) is especially toxic. But that is also getting better.

I think the best kind to do fish farms would be to develop systems where you grow your own protein rich algae in the ocean using sunlight and some fertilizer in big floating basins, and then feed the algae to (filter) fish. Then you can fully control it and are not dependent on waste. If we could scale up and automate that kind of aquaculture farming it would solve a lot of problems for protein food supply and overfishing. Because you could do it anywhere, and the oceans are basically lifeless deserts otherwise.

Also archive link for the OP article: https://archive.is/20261019103818/https://www.thejournal.ie/salmon-fed-chicken-7195347-Oct2026/

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