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usernamesAreTricky
lemmy.ml
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-06-01 |
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naught101
lemmy.world
naught101@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-08 |
I don't know how someone can think "AI CAN obscure reality ..." Obviously the fundamental truth is "AI does obscure reality ..." (Often this will be inconsequential, but that doesn't make it less true). (Edit: especially an academic, FFS) |
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Blaster M
lemmy.world
Blaster_M@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-08 |
well, to be fair, we trained most models away from non-sfw images, so ugly images get cleaned up to look nice. That's a consequence of making image models that don't do things you don't want your kids to see |
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dermanus
lemmy.ca
dermanus@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-05 |
well, to be fair, we trained most models away from non-sfw images, so ugly images get cleaned up to look nice. That's a consequence of making image models that don't do things you don't want your kids to see
I was thinking the same. They're probably weighted against gory, distressing images. Think of the headlines: " creates graphic slaughter house for children's storybook project" |
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GreenCrunch
piefed.blahaj.zone
GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-08-08 |
I was thinking the same. They're probably weighted against gory, distressing images. Think of the headlines: " creates graphic slaughter house for children's storybook project"
OLD MACDONALD NO!!! |
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frongt
lemmy.zip
frongt@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-07-31 |
well, to be fair, we trained most models away from non-sfw images, so ugly images get cleaned up to look nice. That's a consequence of making image models that don't do things you don't want your kids to see
Yeah. If I asked you to draw a picture of a pig farm, you'd probably draw a barn and pigsty with pigs and a trough, too. Which way should it be weighted, if any? |
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usernamesAreTricky
lemmy.ml
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-06-01 |
well, to be fair, we trained most models away from non-sfw images, so ugly images get cleaned up to look nice. That's a consequence of making image models that don't do things you don't want your kids to see
It's a little bit more specific than that, prompt rewriting is a step they added intentionally to remap prompts. So not exactly trained to make them less about reality, but actually changes your prompt to the image generator to be less about reality
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bert_macklin_fbi
lemmy.world
bert_macklin_fbi@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-28 |
If you're going to insist on using an image generation program instead of actual photos, at least put in the effort to use it correctly. Share some photos, a URL to search results, etc. and instruct it to use them as inspiration. |
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BeMoreCareful
lemmy.world
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
“The moment that I found out it is actually a prompt revision that is erasing all the reality, I was absolutely shocked,” says Sheng. “That’s insane.” If you're going to insist on using an image generation program instead of actual photos, at least put in the effort to use it correctly. Share some photos, a URL to search results, etc. and instruct it to use them as inspiration.
That's illegal |
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lightnsfw
reddthat.com
lightnsfw@reddthat.com Joined: 2023-08-15 |
Why are they using AI photos for this at all? In what context could that possibly be acceptable? |
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chewypoops
lemmy.world
chewypoops@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-05 |
Why are they using AI photos for this at all? In what context could that possibly be acceptable?
You need to read the article. Factory Farms aren't making the AI images, researchers are. The complaint, apparently, is that AI image generators aren't trained on enough animal cruelty to realistically depict a modern slaughterhouse. This is a problem because the author of this article thinks that in the future, people will rely on AI image generators to understand the world around them, and honestly, if that's already the assumption, then we are cooked. |
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chewypoops
lemmy.world
chewypoops@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-05 |
That's illegal
Because there is nothing in this world more sacred than corporate intellectual property and the copyright code that protects capital. /s |
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Bane_Killgrind
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-15 |
You need to read the article. Factory Farms aren't making the AI images, researchers are. The complaint, apparently, is that AI image generators aren't trained on enough animal cruelty to realistically depict a modern slaughterhouse. This is a problem because the author of this article thinks that in the future, people will rely on AI image generators to understand the world around them, and ho...
No... Images of realistic farms can be generated by these models, but they are set up to intentionally block that realistic depiction. Look at the examples in the article. The service is injecting extra instructions into all these requests invisibly. |
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usernamesAreTricky
lemmy.ml
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-06-01 |
“The moment that I found out it is actually a prompt revision that is erasing all the reality, I was absolutely shocked,” says Sheng. “That’s insane.” If you're going to insist on using an image generation program instead of actual photos, at least put in the effort to use it correctly. Share some photos, a URL to search results, etc. and instruct it to use them as inspiration.
Image search results are getting flooded with AI generated images. Even using filters to block domains with known AI-generated images still has a lot leak into it. There's a good chance you'll just be asking the models to use AI-gen images as a reference by doing that |
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usernamesAreTricky
lemmy.ml
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-06-01 |
No... Images of realistic farms can be generated by these models, but they are set up to intentionally block that realistic depiction. Look at the examples in the article. The service is injecting extra instructions into all these requests invisibly.
But to be clear this means realistic as in depictions of factory farming at all, not necessarily still perfect representations of it either |
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bert_macklin_fbi
lemmy.world
bert_macklin_fbi@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-28 |
Image search results are getting flooded with AI generated images. Even using filters to block domains with known AI-generated images still has a lot leak into it. There's a good chance you'll just be asking the models to use AI-gen images as a reference by doing that
Ugh. I feel like dingdong for not thinking of that. |
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Bane_Killgrind
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-15 |
But to be clear this means realistic as in depictions of factory farming at all, not necessarily still perfect representations of it either
I'm searching around but I can't find it, there was some discussion of students doing research and how depicting fantasy farms undermines it's actual use as a research tool. The output of these models is highly editorialized and just like the recent court case the publishers should be liable for misinformation and slander generated by these things. |
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