Link: https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/someone-is-setting-starlink-infrastructure-on-fire-across-europe-23653

It is almost like russia is at war with Europe....

We have bigfoots over here in the US depending on the time of year, do you have them over there? Maybe it is a network of bigfoot cryptids hiding in the woods and disabling them so starlink can't find them!

Elon Musk is just trying to be a hero and prove bigfoots exist with Starlink, everybody knows that so I think this is the logical conclusion.

edit for all you sheep, just ask Grok, Bigfoots are known to travel at speeds over 110kmph which is why Elon is a genius for blocking their access to Starlink in a targeted way in Ukraine to limit their ability to disrupt Ukraine with bigfoot mindtunnel jumps (BMJs).

/s of course, fuck Trump, fuck Musk

What if his intertwining with the government was a deliberate move so that actions like this and against his companies are acts of terrorism against the US.

Based. Fuck Elon.

Well, look at the bright side: its a perfect excuse to replace all that broken infrastructure with a sovereign, European alternative.

"Someone"

it would be based if Ukraine wasn't relying on it for defence

I know you assume is Russia but after the last stand Starlink, sorry Starshield pulled probably 30%-40% of the people are happy to see them burn.

Let me say this, whoever it turns out to be unless they are clearly ideologically rightwing extremists I am only going to focus on their character and beliefs while asking ZERO questions about who it was that dangled the money to do it in front of their eyes... because that is something that must be buried in the coverage of these acts. Do you think any of these people did these sabotage acts for free because they thought it was the right thing to do?

No, "somebody" paid them and they realized they could not think about the broader context/ethics of their choices with the cash in hand, a selfish choice but ultimately a meaningless one when viewed at the systematic level of who the "someone" driving this system actually is.

Wait does this mean in a way russia is MORE capitalist than Ukraine? I am so confused now.

30%-40% of the people are happy to see them burn.

And why are those people so happy to watch their freedom burn? Who convinced them with stories that gathering around and feeding the bonfire of their futures is a joyful act?

seems weird for a nation to depend on a private company (that presumably has the right to refuse service to anyone)

It is weird. It's also the current situation and damage to starlink hurts Ukraine, no matter how strange and messed up it is

That private company also massively depends on government contracts and subsidies. They wouldn't dare pull this kind of shit if it wasn't approved or even initiated by their government. I do agree that this is not the kind of operation that should be in the hands of a private company, but I don't think it would change anything in the current situation.

I'm starting to think that maybe Elon DIDN'T turn off Ukraine's access the other day and merely said he did, in the same way the Russians say "the Ukrainians didn't blow up that depot; a soldier was smoking and accidentally started a fire".

Musk can suck it.

Yeah, let's worsen the situation of Ukraine so some trillionaire earns a tiny bit less money!

Hah, welcome to western defense doctrine and the military industrial complex

Two Turks were arrested in Germany for burning one in September. We know it's not "someone" but different people hired to do it. People who think it's some activists protesting Musk are dum-dums.

As with many folks on Starlink, they didn't have much of a choice. ATM, there's nothing comparable in orbit and landlines are vulnerable on a battefield.

"Someone" has already done this before

Musk and starlink aren't for your freedom.

Russia likes being able to sway Musk. Most right wingers are aligned with Musk. It could be somebody with a beef with Musk (this does still include several factions of right wingers). No notable left group that I know of would use this methodology (they don't typically pay randoms like that, especially not across borders). I'm mostly leaning to some fringe far right group.

Sure, but this also is incredibly divisive, wreckless and stupid when considered in the broader context of what is going on.

I saw a meme the other day that pointed out that Bigfoot sighting territory, and black bear territory overlaps almost perfectly. The major outliers being stadiums hosting monster truck rallies.

...and really what is such a big difference between black bears and this perception as highly intelligent furry large creatures that live mostly solitary lives in the forest avoiding people? Can't we just see black bears as mysterious and cool even as we claim to know them well enough to label them within the realm of the everyday?

Normies will say its Russia, the experienced will say its the CIA

It was pretty funny when people were setting fire to his car dealerships.

We should go back to doing that too.

And he takes it away when he throws a hissy

russia never stop being at war, they were mad eastern europe became independent.

And why are those people so happy to watch their freedom burn?

the hell are you taking about? what freedom?

We are taking about the money making toys and blackmail tools of a human that did a Nazi salute.

Where did I say I like Elon Musk? I agree he is a Nazi, but we are talking about active ongoing air defense and general operation of Ukrainian forces attempting to stop both an invasion of a mass land army and also acts of mass terror against the civilian population... so yeah fuck Elon Musk I agree but there is you know... nuance here and you have smashed yourself in the face with it.

There are well established fulcrums of leverage over Elon Musk for his sabotage of the military Starlink service for Ukraine, specifically because Starlink was contracted for military services specifically, which already includes layerd of vetting, security checks and all of that... so there is nowhere for Elon Musk to go here.

This isn't to say that Europe and elsewhere shouldn't be developing alternatives now, of course they should!

Activists who hate Elon Musk are not my enemy, but realize when y'all are getting played by your enemies is what I am saying.