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Trump’s Department of Homeland Security Secretly Ordered Cybersecurity Operatives to Acquire a Voting Machine and Hack It.
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eicker lemmy.world eicker@lemmy.world
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eicker lemmy.world eicker@lemmy.world
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The administration wanted a voting machine hacked, but DOGE had already fired the experts capable of doing it. Apparently the one thing stopping a potential election conspiracy was Elon Musk’s ability to make government incompetent at absolutely everything. Task failed successfully.

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Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ piefed.zip Sxan@piefed.zip
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The administration wanted a voting machine hacked, but DOGE had already fired the experts capable of doing it. Apparently the one thing stopping a potential election conspiracy was Elon Musk’s ability to make government incompetent at absolutely everything. Task failed successfully.

Or so þe Trumpers would have you believe.

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beep piefed.world beep@piefed.world
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#4 · Quote Reply

The actual investigation/article, by Propublica.

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jumping redditor [they/them] sh.itjust.works jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works
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#5 · Quote Reply

if he wanted them to disclose and fix the issues that would be great

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gollumsfish lemmy.zip gollumsfish@lemmy.zip
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#6 · Quote Reply

That picture looks like a wax figure

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StabbingSky lemmy.zip StabbingSky@lemmy.zip
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if he wanted them to disclose and fix the issues that would be great

They were ordered not to disclose findings.

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AbouBenAdhem lemmy.world AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world
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#8 · Quote Reply

if he wanted them to disclose and fix the issues that would be great

If that’s what he wanted, he wouldn’t have done it secretly.

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dan1101 lemmy.world dan1101@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#9 · Quote Reply

Normally vulnerability testing would be a good thing, but in this case I think it's safe to assume the worst motivations for it.

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floofloof lemmy.ca floofloof@lemmy.ca
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#10 · (edited) Quote Reply

That picture looks like a wax figure

His face has meanness and insecurity written all over it. In orange.

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DaddleDew lemmy.world DaddleDew@lemmy.world
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#11 · Quote Reply

So everyone who was involved in pushing that order is going to jail right?

Right?

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_stranger_ lemmy.world _stranger_@lemmy.world
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#12 · Quote Reply

That picture looks like a wax figure

He's probably mostly petroleum byproducts by now

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switcheroo lemmy.world switcheroo@lemmy.world
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#13 · Quote Reply

Early voters are reporting some hijinks when selecting their choice so be VERY CAREFUL about confirming who you are voting for.

I know I am going to be checking in to make sure my vote was counted and counted for the people I want to win. You should to.

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YurkshireLad lemmy.ca YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca
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#14 · Quote Reply

It’s the old projection thing again.

Republicans: the Dems hacked voting machines and stole the election! Lock them up!

Also Republicans: we hacked a voting machine so we can steal the election.

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jordanlund lemmy.world jordanlund@lemmy.world
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#15 · Quote Reply

There is no such thing as security if you have physical access to the device. So yes, I am sure they could "hack" it. (Remove storage, alter the votes, re-insert storage).

That doesn't mean elections are compromised. It means one machine is compromised.

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encelado748 feddit.org encelado748@feddit.org
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#16 · (edited) Quote Reply

They want to find vulnerabilities, even vulnerabilities that you cannot use or that you have no evidence are getting used, to justify canceling the vote later.

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spacegoat lemmy.world spacegoat@lemmy.world
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#17 · Quote Reply

Or so þe Trumpers would have you believe.

Why do these people with fucked up keyboards persist in the fediverse

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X piefed.world X@piefed.world
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#18 · Quote Reply

It’s the old projection thing again. Republicans: the Dems hacked voting machines and stole the election! Lock them up! Also Republicans: we hacked a voting machine so we can steal the election.

Conservatives: 😤
The bulk of the US: 😪

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BooBees fedinsfw.app BooBees@fedinsfw.app
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Why do these people with fucked up keyboards persist in the fediverse

A desire and need for more vodka

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Fredselfish sh.itjust.works Fredselfish@sh.itjust.works
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#20 · Quote Reply

Early voters are reporting some hijinks when selecting their choice so be VERY CAREFUL about confirming who you are voting for. I know I am going to be checking in to make sure my vote was counted and counted for the people I want to win. You should to.

How do we check how or if our vote counts.

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_chris lemmy.world _chris@lemmy.world
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#21 · Quote Reply

There is no such thing as security if you have physical access to the device. So yes, I am sure they could "hack" it. (Remove storage, alter the votes, re-insert storage). That doesn't mean elections are compromised. It means one machine is compromised.

The storage had better be encrypted and locked to the machine it was installed on. It’s such a basic thing that…shit, yep they probably didn’t do it.

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Raiderkev lemmy.world Raiderkev@lemmy.world
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It’s the old projection thing again. Republicans: the Dems hacked voting machines and stole the election! Lock them up! Also Republicans: we hacked a voting machine so we can steal the election.

Pssst... They did it in 2016, and 2024. The only reason 2020 didn't work was the massive amount of mail in ballots. Vlad helped, and now they are just making extra sure their cheats worked.

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LewdLemon sh.itjust.works LewdLemon@sh.itjust.works
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#23 · Quote Reply

Early voters are reporting some hijinks when selecting their choice so be VERY CAREFUL about confirming who you are voting for. I know I am going to be checking in to make sure my vote was counted and counted for the people I want to win. You should to.

Early voters are reporting some hijinks when selecting their choice so be VERY CAREFUL about confirming who you are voting for.

Like so?

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saltesc lemmy.world saltesc@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#24 · Quote Reply

Why do these people with fucked up keyboards persist in the fediverse

They think it helps prevent their comments from being used by LLMs or "poisons" them.

It should be obvious why that would never had been a thing from day one. But now, ironically, their use of it reinforces "þ" as a substitute so it's prob been years since it's needed to be in pre-training code too.

It's quite literally a tinfoil hat.

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curbstickle anarchist.nexus curbstickle@anarchist.nexus
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#25 · Quote Reply

How do we check how or if our vote counts.

Depends on the state. Vote.org is useful for this:

https://www.vote.org/ballot-tracker-tools/

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daggermoon piefed.world daggermoon@piefed.world
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#26 · (edited) Quote Reply

Why do these people with fucked up keyboards persist in the fediverse

I think people just like to bitch about þorn. You know what it says, so what's þe issue?

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Lovable Sidekick lemmy.world LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
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#27 · Quote Reply

The first stone has fallen out of the wall. I hope it leads to more. If you look at the various numerical anomalies that occurred in swing states only, it becomes very plausible that Harris actually won.

  • Mail-in votes closely reflected polling, but election-night voting (i.e. on the machines) contradicted the polls.
  • Split-ticket voting occurred much more often than usual - in this case, ballots with a vote for Trump and votes for Democrats the rest of the way. This does happen in elections, but not nearly to the degree it happened in the swing states.
  • The anomalies were always enough for Trump to win, but just below the thresholds that would trigger automatic audits.
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grue lemmy.world grue@lemmy.world
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#28 · Quote Reply

Ironically, the initiative was reportedly complicated by the fact that Elon Musk’s DOGE squad had laid off the CISA agents who would have known how to actually break into voting machines.

Article casually assuming that some vulnerability existed to exploit. The more journalistically-responsible way to phrase it would've been something more like "the CISA agents with expertise who might have been able to find a way to break into voting machines."

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grue lemmy.world grue@lemmy.world
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#29 · (edited) Quote Reply

Pssst... They did it in 2016, and 2024. The only reason 2020 didn't work was the massive amount of mail in ballots. Vlad helped, and now they are just making extra sure their cheats worked.

https://www.dcreport.org/2020/12/19/mitch-mcconnells-re-election-the-numbers-dont-add-up/

To be clear, I don't necessary "believe" Republican fraud occurred. I do think there were enough statistical anomalies to warrant investigation, and that that didn't happen because Trump put the Democrats fully in defensive mode by distracting them with spurious investigations elsewhere.

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Destide feddit.uk sirico@feddit.uk
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#30 · Quote Reply

So everyone who was involved in pushing that order is going to jail right? Right?

Best we can do is long life on tax payers money

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OctopusNemeses lemmy.world OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world
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#31 · Quote Reply

The smoking gun for me is how much they've been screaming about others cheating. They cheated.

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Havatra lemmy.zip Havatra@lemmy.zip
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#32 · Quote Reply

Voting machines are vulnerable just like any other machine, and have been proven time and time again that they're not particularly difficult to hack. DEF CON has been doing it for almost ten years at this point. First time in 2017, with lots of articles covering it. The year after even TIME reported about how an 11 year old did it. In 2024 they got some attention again due to Trump going for second term. But I don't think much came of it...

The US is a flawed democracy, and has been on a steady decline for years.

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Burn_The_Right lemmy.today Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today
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#33 · Quote Reply

Now why in the world would they want to do that? For educational purposes only, I presume. Fascists are famously pro-education.

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humanspiral lemmy.ca humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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#34 · Quote Reply

Providers of voting machines have skewed GOP in their donations since Bush 43. Variations of voting results from polling have been strongest in Ohio and Florida.

Obviously this is yet more extreme corruption, but election rigging is possible/likely happening without this embarrassment. Vote rigging is more subtle than buffoon in chief thinks it should be.

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LincolnsDogFido lemmy.zip LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip
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#35 · Quote Reply

Early voters are reporting some hijinks when selecting their choice so be VERY CAREFUL about confirming who you are voting for. Like so?

I can tell from just the thumbnail that this is the Florida voting machine skit from 2004 lol. What a pull!

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Deconceptualist leminal.space Deconceptualist@leminal.space
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#36 · (edited) Quote Reply

I think people just like to bitch about þorn. You know what it says, so what's þe issue?

þere's so much þorn on þe Internet þese days, it might be out of control.

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shittydwarf piefed.ca shittydwarf@piefed.ca
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#37 · Quote Reply

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Redfugee lemmy.world Redfugee@lemmy.world
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#38 · Quote Reply

Voting machines are vulnerable just like any other machine, and have been proven time and time again that they're not particularly difficult to hack. DEF CON has been doing it for almost ten years at this point. First time in 2017, with lots of articles covering it. The year after even TIME reported about how an 11 year old did it. In 2024 they got some attention again due to Trump going for se...

I worry that comments like this can degrade the confidence in the system.

States run their own elections and they're usually administered at the county level. I can't speak for any other county but the way we do elections here are legit. This system is audited and administered by bipartisan teams. During elections I work with people from different parties and facilitate a system to ensure our voting process maintains integrity.

If you don't know how elections are administered where you live I encourage you to take an interest and get involved. We all have a duty here to oversee that we are administering elections with integrity.

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GreenKnight23 lemmy.world GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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#39 · Quote Reply

this is the clearest most honest photo of that shitstain I have ever seen.

TIHI.

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story lemmy.zip story@lemmy.zip
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#40 · (edited) Quote Reply

I worry that comments like this can degrade the confidence in the system. States run their own elections and they're usually administered at the county level. I can't speak for any other county but the way we do elections here are legit. This system is audited and administered by bipartisan teams. During elections I work with people from different parties and facilitate a system to ensure our v...

I'm sorry to say this to you. It wasn't difficult to make a voting machine in 2011. What we have are fraud machines. It's just politically impossible to make a secure voting machine, even though it's technically trivial.

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Kaligalis lemmy.world Kaligalis@lemmy.world
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#41 · Quote Reply

Of course they hacked voting machines to audit their security. Apart from that, voting machines can't fulfill the transparency requirements of democratic elections on principle. So just not using them would be better anyway.

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Gibibit lemmy.world Gibibit@lemmy.world
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#42 · Quote Reply

Providers of voting machines have skewed GOP in their donations since Bush 43. Variations of voting results from polling have been strongest in Ohio and Florida. Obviously this is yet more extreme corruption, but election rigging is possible/likely happening without this embarrassment. Vote rigging is more subtle than buffoon in chief thinks it should be.

Excuse me? The companies that make voting machines donate to a political party? Please tell me you're joking

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Havatra lemmy.zip Havatra@lemmy.zip
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#43 · Quote Reply

I worry that comments like this can degrade the confidence in the system. States run their own elections and they're usually administered at the county level. I can't speak for any other county but the way we do elections here are legit. This system is audited and administered by bipartisan teams. During elections I work with people from different parties and facilitate a system to ensure our v...

The system is made up of many components, and voting machines are but one part. Even though they might be hackable in various ways, there are much more efficient ways these days to sway an election. The Cambridge Analytics scandal proved one efficient way, while there's now a growing belief that whoever controls the social media algorithm effectively controls public opinion.
And don't get me started on the two-party-system in the US...

So no need to hack the machines, really. The system is flawed/corrupt elsewhere more severely.

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Jason2357 lemmy.ca Jason2357@lemmy.ca
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#44 · Quote Reply

As much as I would want to cry foul, this sound like a typical red team exercise.

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limer lemmy.ml limer@lemmy.ml
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#45 · Quote Reply

I'm sorry to say this to you. It wasn't difficult to make a voting machine in 2011. What we have are fraud machines. It's just politically impossible to make a secure voting machine, even though it's technically trivial.

Most democracies do not use voting machines because it’s impossible to trust anyone with creating and maintaining it.

If there is a way to change the vote tallies, then clever people will use it to enrich themselves.

The only way to circumvent most cheating is by paper ballots recounted manually in front of representatives of all candidates: recounted as many times as asked; and the ballots must be kept in public view until a winner is declared.

Putting the ballots into any other device negates some or all of the above.

And I would only have to say this in American political posts. But Americans are married to voting in ways that cannot be verified, except in some states. So most likely what’s seen as common sense in most of the world is either ignored or viewed with suspicion here.

Ask any student in the uk though; and I’m just echoing what has been taught in school to young children

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acchariya lemmy.world acchariya@lemmy.world
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#46 · Quote Reply

The administration wanted a voting machine hacked, but DOGE had already fired the experts capable of doing it. Apparently the one thing stopping a potential election conspiracy was Elon Musk’s ability to make government incompetent at absolutely everything. Task failed successfully.

They just went private

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Sgarcnl lemmy.world Sgarcnl@lemmy.world
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#47 · Quote Reply

Of course they hacked voting machines to audit their security. Apart from that, voting machines can't fulfill the transparency requirements of democratic elections on principle. So just not using them would be better anyway.

Wtf

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Venator lemmy.nz Venator@lemmy.nz
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#48 · Quote Reply

Why do these people with fucked up keyboards persist in the fediverse

They might just be a fan of the letter thorn (þ):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJxKyh9e5_A

https://www.tiktok.com/@robwords/video/6925843027462278406?lang=en

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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#49 · Quote Reply

It’s totally fine though. Since no one in America has the balls to do anything about it- it’s legal.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#50 · Quote Reply

Remember tulsi was tasked with testing the machines before she resigned.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#51 · Quote Reply

Pssst... They did it in 2016, and 2024. The only reason 2020 didn't work was the massive amount of mail in ballots. Vlad helped, and now they are just making extra sure their cheats worked.

also covid put a wrench in things, that the conservatives couldnt freely go about in polling areas to rig it.

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