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Aatube
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-18 |
https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/
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BluescreenOfDeath
lemmy.world
BluescreenOfDeath@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-06-16 |
Okay, that's fun and scary at the same time. The article links to a webpage, https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ That shows if your browser is still using those certs, and though it says Firefox has already updated, maybe it hasn't reached mobile yet as it shows I'm using them all still. I guess I won't connect to anything important for a few days. |
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HubertManne
piefed.social
HubertManne@piefed.social Joined: 2025-03-13 |
arrgh. got to get off my lazy ass and do a thorough updating this weekend. |
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thisbenzingring
lemmy.today
thisbenzingring@lemmy.todayJoined: 2025-11-29 |
Okay, that's fun and scary at the same time. The article links to a webpage, https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ That shows if your browser is still using those certs, and though it says Firefox has already updated, maybe it hasn't reached mobile yet as it shows I'm using them all still. I guess I won't connect to anything important for a few days.
My Firefox mobile got green ✅ Maybe try manually updating through the app store |
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Davel23
fedia.io
Davel23@fedia.io Joined: 2024-03-16 |
Okay, that's fun and scary at the same time. The article links to a webpage, https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ That shows if your browser is still using those certs, and though it says Firefox has already updated, maybe it hasn't reached mobile yet as it shows I'm using them all still. I guess I won't connect to anything important for a few days.
I'm using Firefox and that site says I'm good. |
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superglue
lemmy.dbzer0.com
superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-08-09 |
So if my understanding is correct, to be exploited the attacker would already need to be in a position to intercept your traffic, but this means when they do they can effectively impersonate anyone. This could actually be an interesting attack vector for hacking IOT devices. If you control the DNS server the device connects to you can get it to trust literally anything. |
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ArgentRaven
lemmy.world
ArgentRaven@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Okay, that's fun and scary at the same time. The article links to a webpage, https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ That shows if your browser is still using those certs, and though it says Firefox has already updated, maybe it hasn't reached mobile yet as it shows I'm using them all still. I guess I won't connect to anything important for a few days.
I'm on a 10/7 build and I'm vulnerable on mobile FireFox, as well. Edit: updated to a 10/19 version, 158.0.1, and it's still vulnerable. |
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damnthefilibuster
lemmy.world
damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-05 |
My Firefox mobile got green ✅ Maybe try manually updating through the app store
In app safari on Mlem got all greens. |
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Boo! Haunted House!
lemmy.world
lemmyng@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-03-16 |
Okay, that's fun and scary at the same time. The article links to a webpage, https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ That shows if your browser is still using those certs, and though it says Firefox has already updated, maybe it hasn't reached mobile yet as it shows I'm using them all still. I guess I won't connect to anything important for a few days.
Ironfox is all green for me. Cromite is half red, half green. So yeah, fuck Chromium's monopoly. |
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Badabinski
kbin.earth
Badabinski@kbin.earth Joined: 2024-06-09 |
So if my understanding is correct, to be exploited the attacker would already need to be in a position to intercept your traffic, but this means when they do they can effectively impersonate anyone. This could actually be an interesting attack vector for hacking IOT devices. If you control the DNS server the device connects to you can get it to trust literally anything.
MITM HTTPS traffic without a key doesn't really let you do much of anything, especially with stuff like HSTS. You can mess with DNS, but the whole certificate authority thing is meant to make it so you can't redirect someone's traffic to a malicious server. This leaked private key completely destroys that guarantee, making it extremely scary. ~Plus, saved traffic for any site signed by this key which didn't use PFS will be subject to post-facto decryption.~ edit: I don't know wtf I was thinking, the decryption thing is nonsense. |
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Maya S. Trojan
piefed.blahaj.zone
maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2026-10-12 |
Okay, that's fun and scary at the same time. The article links to a webpage, https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ That shows if your browser is still using those certs, and though it says Firefox has already updated, maybe it hasn't reached mobile yet as it shows I'm using them all still. I guess I won't connect to anything important for a few days.
Yep, my Firefox mobile hasn't updated yet either, gonna see if there's an update I can grab. |
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cheeseburger
lemmy.ca
cheeseburger@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-07-14 |
Okay, that's fun and scary at the same time. The article links to a webpage, https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ That shows if your browser is still using those certs, and though it says Firefox has already updated, maybe it hasn't reached mobile yet as it shows I'm using them all still. I guess I won't connect to anything important for a few days.
For mobile
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BlueKey
fedia.io
BlueKey@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-03-11 |
MITM HTTPS traffic without a key doesn't really let you do much of anything, especially with stuff like HSTS. You can mess with DNS, but the whole certificate authority thing is meant to make it so you can't redirect someone's traffic to a malicious server. This leaked private key completely destroys that guarantee, making it extremely scary. ~Plus, saved traffic for any site signed by this key...
I don't think so about the post-facto decrypt. Keyexchange runs with the certs of the destination server. The cerst affected by the leak are intermediate certs which give trust to a cert chain AFAIK. |
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Badabinski
kbin.earth
Badabinski@kbin.earth Joined: 2024-06-09 |
I don't think so about the post-facto decrypt. Keyexchange runs with the certs of the destination server. The cerst affected by the leak are intermediate certs which give trust to a cert chain AFAIK.
You're absolutely right, I had shit all mixed up in my head. Oops 😅 thank you for the correction. |
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zikzak025
lemmy.world
zikzak025@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-24 |
My Firefox mobile got green ✅ Maybe try manually updating through the app store
What's odd is that I have auto updates disabled for Firefox on my spare phone, and I still show green on everything. I don't think it's updated in a couple months now. |
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thisbenzingring
lemmy.today
thisbenzingring@lemmy.todayJoined: 2025-11-29 |
What's odd is that I have auto updates disabled for Firefox on my spare phone, and I still show green on everything. I don't think it's updated in a couple months now.
what version are you on? |
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floofloof
lemmy.ca
floofloof@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-16 |
For mobile Vanadium 155.0.8059.84 (config 217) on GrapheneOS connects to 6/12 0/12. Last updated 2026-10-17 Fennec 158.0.0 (build #1580020) connects to 12/12. Last updated 2026-10-14 edited: after I hit 'run again' a couple times Vanadium went 0/12, so hurray. Didn't make a difference to my dear Fennec though.
My Vanadium just refused all 12 connections. But maybe some of the DNS blocking or Suricata on my LAN might have helped. |
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Bryllyg
quokk.au
Bryllyg@quokk.au Joined: 2026-08-18 |
Waterfox on android is in the clear Edit: Build info, just in case 1.2.8.1 (Build #2026380629) GV: 156.0-20260922074625 AS: 156.0 OS: Android 16 |
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cheeseburger
lemmy.ca
cheeseburger@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-07-14 |
My Vanadium just refused all 12 connections. But maybe some of the DNS blocking or Suricata on my LAN might have helped.
Thanks, I tried harder and got the same result as you. Edited my comment above to reflect. |
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tuckerm
feddit.online
tuckerm@feddit.onlineJoined: 2025-03-06 |
Okay, that's fun and scary at the same time. The article links to a webpage, https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ That shows if your browser is still using those certs, and though it says Firefox has already updated, maybe it hasn't reached mobile yet as it shows I'm using them all still. I guess I won't connect to anything important for a few days.
Useful link, thanks. Mobile Waterfox passes. |
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masterofn001
lemmy.ca
masterofn001@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Okay, that's fun and scary at the same time. The article links to a webpage, https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ That shows if your browser is still using those certs, and though it says Firefox has already updated, maybe it hasn't reached mobile yet as it shows I'm using them all still. I guess I won't connect to anything important for a few days.
Are you using a vpn/tor? |
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Aatube
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-18 |
Useful link, thanks. Mobile Waterfox passes.
is the post body having issues displaying? asking because this is way past the first time this season i've seen people not see it |
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gex
lemmy.world
gex@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-19 |
What's odd is that I have auto updates disabled for Firefox on my spare phone, and I still show green on everything. I don't think it's updated in a couple months now.
Firefox can push certificate revocation updates without having to push a new browser build |
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masterofn001
lemmy.ca
masterofn001@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
On grapheneOS, i just manually disabled the root CA's in the trusted root store. These are all android versions on graphene: *There are now 14 certs AFFECTED: NOT affected: |
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Nurse_Robot
lemmy.world
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-12 |
Okay, that's fun and scary at the same time. The article links to a webpage, https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ That shows if your browser is still using those certs, and though it says Firefox has already updated, maybe it hasn't reached mobile yet as it shows I'm using them all still. I guess I won't connect to anything important for a few days.
Brave Mobile is green ✅ |
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zikzak025
lemmy.world
zikzak025@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-24 |
what version are you on?
That one is on version 154.0, dated August. |
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IronKrill
lemmy.ca
IronKrill@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-06-09 |
For mobile Vanadium 155.0.8059.84 (config 217) on GrapheneOS connects to 6/12 0/12. Last updated 2026-10-17 Fennec 158.0.0 (build #1580020) connects to 12/12. Last updated 2026-10-14 edited: after I hit 'run again' a couple times Vanadium went 0/12, so hurray. Didn't make a difference to my dear Fennec though.
I just recently swapped to Fennec and it's correctly getting 0/12. These updates seem a bit inconsistent. |
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frongt
lemmy.zip
frongt@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-07-31 |
So if my understanding is correct, to be exploited the attacker would already need to be in a position to intercept your traffic, but this means when they do they can effectively impersonate anyone. This could actually be an interesting attack vector for hacking IOT devices. If you control the DNS server the device connects to you can get it to trust literally anything.
Yup. These days, a lot of firmware blobs are also signed with the vendor's key, so you'd still need to get past that hurdle. |
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robear
lemmy.zip
robear@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-06-21 |
On grapheneOS, i just manually disabled the root CA's in the trusted root store. These are all android versions on graphene: *There are now 14 certs AFFECTED: Firefox (nightly) ,Ironfox, and fennec STILL connects to all 12 Tor connects to 6 of them Cromite is still affected by 6 of them. NOT affected: Vanadium is not affected Vivaldi is not affected WebLibre (a firefox fork) is not affected Fir...
Fennec f-droid didn't connect to any on my test. |
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pomegranatefern
sh.itjust.works
pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-01-29 |
On grapheneOS, i just manually disabled the root CA's in the trusted root store. These are all android versions on graphene: *There are now 14 certs AFFECTED: Firefox (nightly) ,Ironfox, and fennec STILL connects to all 12 Tor connects to 6 of them Cromite is still affected by 6 of them. NOT affected: Vanadium is not affected Vivaldi is not affected WebLibre (a firefox fork) is not affected Fir...
My IronFox is clear as per https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ |
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Taasz/Woof
piefed.social
MangoPenguin@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-05 |
What's odd is that I have auto updates disabled for Firefox on my spare phone, and I still show green on everything. I don't think it's updated in a couple months now.
I think cert updates happen automatically on their own without the browser needing to be updated. |
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Illogicalbit
lemmy.world
Illogicalbit@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-10 |
So, all governments? |
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silver
das-eck.haus
silver@das-eck.hausJoined: 2025-10-31 |
My IronFox is clear as per https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/
Same here |
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thisbenzingring
lemmy.today
thisbenzingring@lemmy.todayJoined: 2025-11-29 |
I think that this isn't really getting the right attention, about what a massive WTF situation this is... its a 384 bit certificate and this is the private key 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00: that is just fucking NUTS |
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bazzett
lemmy.world
bazzett@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
Okay, that's fun and scary at the same time. The article links to a webpage, https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ That shows if your browser is still using those certs, and though it says Firefox has already updated, maybe it hasn't reached mobile yet as it shows I'm using them all still. I guess I won't connect to anything important for a few days.
Uhh... Weird. In my phone (Android 15) both Firefox 158.0.1 and Brave 1.97.59 (Chromium 155.0.8059.85) connect to 6 of the 12 hosts. But on my tablet (Android 10) I have the same versions of Firefox and Brave, and there they don't connect to any of the hosts. What can I do? |
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Scrubbles
poptalk.scrubbles.tech
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techJoined: 2023-06-02 |
I think that this isn't really getting the right attention, about what a massive WTF situation this is... its a 384 bit certificate and this is the private key 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00: 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00: 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00: 00:00:04 that is just fucking NUTS
Phew to think how close it is to my private key |
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Gerudo
lemmy.zip
Gerudo@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-28 |
Uhh... Weird. In my phone (Android 15) both Firefox 158.0.1 and Brave 1.97.59 (Chromium 155.0.8059.85) connect to 6 of the 12 hosts. But on my tablet (Android 10) I have the same versions of Firefox and Brave, and there they don't connect to any of the hosts. What can I do?
Odd my mobile Brave rejects all. |
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Zarobi
aussie.zone
Zarobi@aussie.zone Joined: 2026-06-23 |
First: Who the fuck is eMudhra? Second: What catastrophic failure of process allows a single point of failure Indian company to compromise the entire internet as we know it by accidentally releasing debug code? Why is it so fragile in the first place? |
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RedGreenBlue
lemmy.zip
RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-05 |
Fennec and other Firefox forks:
in address bar and search for
Toggle it to True If your android cert store is good, you will be good for now. |
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Thoralf
discuss.familie-will.at
thoralf@discuss.familie-will.at Joined: 2026-02-02 |
IronFox all green here |
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diablomnky
lemmy.world
diablomnky@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-04-22 |
Phew to think how close it is to my private key
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im_fine_sandy
nord.pub
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub Joined: 2026-08-05 |
Okay, that's fun and scary at the same time. The article links to a webpage, https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/ That shows if your browser is still using those certs, and though it says Firefox has already updated, maybe it hasn't reached mobile yet as it shows I'm using them all still. I guess I won't connect to anything important for a few days.
WDYM you're still using them all? You don't have e any green ticks? |
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Azazel
lemmy.ml
Azazel@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-08-24 |
Why would this put vpn users at risk if browsers have already blocked the problematic certs? |
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non_burglar
lemmy.world
non_burglar@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
First: Who the fuck is eMudhra? Second: What catastrophic failure of process allows a single point of failure Indian company to compromise the entire internet as we know it by accidentally releasing debug code? Why is it so fragile in the first place?
It is a problem we all have with dns, namely that the way it works now means we all must trust upstream CAs. And unfortunately, we will probably suffer a few more of these before we switch over to a voting peer system. |
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Matty_r
programming.dev
Matty_r@programming.devJoined: 2023-09-23 |
On grapheneOS, i just manually disabled the root CA's in the trusted root store. These are all android versions on graphene: *There are now 14 certs AFFECTED: Firefox (nightly) ,Ironfox, and fennec STILL connects to all 12 Tor connects to 6 of them Cromite is still affected by 6 of them. NOT affected: Vanadium is not affected Vivaldi is not affected WebLibre (a firefox fork) is not affected Fir...
Nice, that's handy |
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Die4Ever
retrolemmy.com
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.comJoined: 2024-05-06 |
LOL |
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cheeseburger
lemmy.ca
cheeseburger@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-07-14 |
On grapheneOS, i just manually disabled the root CA's in the trusted root store. These are all android versions on graphene: *There are now 14 certs AFFECTED: Firefox (nightly) ,Ironfox, and fennec STILL connects to all 12 Tor connects to 6 of them Cromite is still affected by 6 of them. NOT affected: Vanadium is not affected Vivaldi is not affected WebLibre (a firefox fork) is not affected Fir...
I've done this as well, but Fennec doesn't seem to care at all, and still happily connects, even after cache clears and a reboot. Fennec also ignored the about:config change another commenter suggested. Makes no sense. It's pissing me off. |
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tuckerm
feddit.online
tuckerm@feddit.onlineJoined: 2025-03-06 |
is the post body having issues displaying? asking because this is way past the first time this season i've seen people not see it
It's displaying fine for me, I think I was just scrolling quickly on my phone and didn't notice that the https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com link in the body was different from the linked article. I saw a blockquote in the post body, and figured that the URL beneath the quote was a link to the article. |
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Aatube
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-18 |
I think that this isn't really getting the right attention, about what a massive WTF situation this is... its a 384 bit certificate and this is the private key 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00: 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00: 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00: 00:00:04 that is just fucking NUTS
that’s a very long way to spell the random number 4 |
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Aatube
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-18 |
First: Who the fuck is eMudhra? Second: What catastrophic failure of process allows a single point of failure Indian company to compromise the entire internet as we know it by accidentally releasing debug code? Why is it so fragile in the first place?
eMudhra is an intermediary certificate authority. some of the most popular intermediary CAs* are Sectigo, GlobalSign, MilesWeb, and GeoTrust. would you \^_^/ like to tell me who the heck ✨ these✨ are? HTTPS has always had a failsafe called certificate revocation. it is working. at least, until the recent cultural shift of ethical hackers towards disclosing security vulnerabilities immediately for some reason barring said cultural shift, the situation would not have been much different if any intermediary’s key leaked through normal means, which has happened * LetsEncrypt is more popular than all of those, and Digicert and GoDaddy are more popular than half of those. But that’s where the name recognition ends. |
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Aatube
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-18 |
Why would this put vpn users at risk if browsers have already blocked the problematic certs?
it would put VPN users at risk if browsers had not blocked it or updated enough and the VPN provider chooses to do shenanigans, that’s why security patches patch the security and why it it’s important to patch this security issue |
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