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Because of Trump, is it now open for someone with a criminal background to hold the office?
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Don_Dickle lemmy.world Patnou@lemmy.world
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radiofreebc lemmy.world radiofreebc@lemmy.world
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It's been like that for a long time. America is not the way it is because of Trump. Trump is the way he is because of America. 70 million people voted for him, and more than that didn't vote at all.

America has been nothing more than a criminal enterprise since Kennedy got shot.

Trump just made it so obvious the rest of the world can't ignore it anymore.

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Psionicsickness reddthat.com Psionicsickness@reddthat.com
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I mean fuck Trump but every founding father was a criminal.

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SnowMeowXP lemmy.world SnowMeowXP@lemmy.world
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I mean fuck Trump but every founding father was a criminal.

I’m not from the US, but I am interested to know if Benjamin Franklin falls on this category? What is his crime?

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ohulancutash feddit.uk ohulancutash@feddit.uk
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I’m not from the US, but I am interested to know if Benjamin Franklin falls on this category? What is his crime?

Treason, tax evasion, sedition, breach of the peace, incitement to riot, incitement to murder.

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TheFogan programming.dev TheFogan@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-07-12
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I’m not from the US, but I am interested to know if Benjamin Franklin falls on this category? What is his crime?

I’m not from the US, but I am interested to know if Benjamin Franklin falls on this category? What is his crime?

By definition the founding fathers overthrew their existing government.

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davetortoise reddthat.com davetortoise@reddthat.com
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It's been like that for a long time. America is not the way it is because of Trump. Trump is the way he is because of America. 70 million people voted for him, and more than that didn't vote at all. America has been nothing more than a criminal enterprise since Kennedy got shot. Trump just made it so obvious the rest of the world can't ignore it anymore.

Trump is the way he is because of America.

Nailed it

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h54 programming.dev h54@programming.dev
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Treason, tax evasion, sedition, breach of the peace, incitement to riot, incitement to murder.

Enslavers, rapists, and genocidal too.

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JustPlainDave lemmy.zip JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip
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Enslavers, rapists, and genocidal too.

Yeah, but not all of them were slavers and rapists. Only most of them.

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glimse lemmy.world glimse@lemmy.world
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A felony has never barred you from the position and that is by design. Literally nothing to do with Trump

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Malica lemmy.zip Malica@lemmy.zip
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Precedent isn't everything and if we don't burn this fucker down and start over, we don't have a chance in hell.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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A felony has never barred you from the position and that is by design. Literally nothing to do with Trump

Because in the past, a convicted felon's political career would be over.
Gary Hart's run for President in 1984 ended when he was rumored to have had an affair with an adult woman.

Meanwhile, Trump is fucking kids and had had multiple affairs on multiple wives.

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glimse lemmy.world glimse@lemmy.world
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Because in the past, a convicted felon's political career would be over. Gary Hart's run for President in 1984 ended when he was rumored to have had an affair with an adult woman. Meanwhile, Trump is fucking kids and had had multiple affairs on multiple wives.

That's besides the point. It's explicitly allowed to prevent the weaponization of felonies against political opponents.

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DarkFuture lemmy.world DarkFuture@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-06
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It's normalized, that's for sure.

Rapists becoming president is now normalized.

Felons becoming president is now normalized.

Treason is now normalized.

Let's see how that goes for the future of our nation.

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DebatableRaccoon lemmy.ca DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-24
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It's been like that for a long time. America is not the way it is because of Trump. Trump is the way he is because of America. 70 million people voted for him, and more than that didn't vote at all. America has been nothing more than a criminal enterprise since Kennedy got shot. Trump just made it so obvious the rest of the world can't ignore it anymore.

70 million people voted for him, and more than that didn't vote at all.

Exactly this. I can't remember where I saw it, but some years back - during his first stint - I saw an interview with a panel of Trump supporters. They were asked "If Trump shot an unarmed man dead in the street, would you still support him?". One of the women responded "What did the guy do to get shot?" and everyone else nodded in agreement.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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That's besides the point. It's explicitly allowed to prevent the weaponization of felonies against political opponents.

Sure, you can buy that bullshit excuse.

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Colonel_Panic_ eviltoast.org Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org
Joined: 2025-07-02
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Even better. We don't have to obey that silly constitution or the amendments or our laws anymore. No more pesky rules.

The actual serious answer is that we've always had a corrupt and unlawful and unjust and unfair system. It's kinda its whole deal. He just did it openly, brazenly, mockingly and 100x worse and more often than anyone in the past. Bro said hold my beers.

The orange turd is a symptom, not the disease.

The actual disease is the machine that tricked 70+ million people to vote to throw 99.999% of us under the bus to give immense benefits to the .001%.

It's really nothing new. Same cancer, but it's probably stage 3 or 4 now.

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glimse lemmy.world glimse@lemmy.world
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Sure, you can buy that bullshit excuse.

...???

Instead of focusing on Trump, think about how badly that would have been abused. The ruling party would find bullshit charges on their political opponents.

It also doesn't make any sense to outright bar people who broke the law because a lot of times people run for office to change the law

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FreshParsnip lemmy.ca FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
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All Trump did was expose the fact that it always was open for someone with a criminal background to hold office. They didn't change the qualifications for him. There never was a rule against people with criminal records holding office. It was just considered common sense that people wouldn't elect someone with serious crimes on their record, but it turns out that was wrong. There is indeed nothing to stop other felons, rapists, and traitors from getting elected

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FreshParsnip lemmy.ca FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
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70 million people voted for him, and more than that didn't vote at all. Exactly this. I can't remember where I saw it, but some years back - during his first stint - I saw an interview with a panel of Trump supporters. They were asked "If Trump shot an unarmed man dead in the street, would you still support him?". One of the women responded "What did the guy do to get shot?" and everyone else n...

Reminds of how MAGA people are always claiming the media "isn't telling the whole story" when ICE commits atrocities. They're convinced the regime can do no wrong and anyone they hurt deserved it

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CitizenKong lemmy.world CitizenKong@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
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It's normalized, that's for sure. Rapists becoming president is now normalized. Felons becoming president is now normalized. Treason is now normalized. Let's see how that goes for the future of our nation.

Looks like Putin's Russia is the blueprint.

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