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Auth
lemmy.world
Auth@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-11 |
When was apple ever does more cost less. It was always does less costs more. Up until their M1 series release where they actually started having decent hardware. Even then though im still pretty sure they only won in perf per watt and still lost in perf per dollar. |
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samus12345
sh.itjust.works
samus12345@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-07-03 |
It was. I'm thinking about running for School Board to bring back actual computer classes.
That would be impressively proactive, you should! |
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Xatolos
reddthat.com
Xatolos@reddthat.comJoined: 2023-06-30 |
it means the CLI has about 70% of the same stuff that Linux has in its CLI i personally find it very useful as it makes scripting for macos easier since its so much closer to bash
"So much closer to BASH" BASH isnt Unix though. Why use something close to BASH and not use full GNU BASH? This sounds counter intuitive. And doesnt make sense in declaring UNIX certification is better, since you are declaring that you want something as close to BASH but Unix isnt BASH. If you want BASH, use Linux, not ZSH on MacOS. |
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Maya S. Trojan
piefed.blahaj.zone
maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2026-10-12 |
"So much closer to BASH" BASH isnt Unix though. Why use something close to BASH and not use full GNU BASH? This sounds counter intuitive. And doesnt make sense in declaring UNIX certification is better, since you are declaring that you want something as close to BASH but Unix isnt BASH. If you want BASH, use Linux, not ZSH on MacOS.
you know you could also just let people use what works for them |
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tyler
programming.dev
tyler@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-12 |
What do you do with a Mac?
all the same stuff? it's bsd under the hood. it literally functions just like linux. I run cachy on my desktop and while kde plasma is great, mac is fantastic as well. about the only thing better on linux is that I can game. |
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bold_omi
lemmy.today
bold_omi@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-02-22 |
Apple has never cost less than most competitors. And its OS has always cost more than free alternatives. |
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bold_omi
lemmy.today
bold_omi@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-02-22 |
Almost like the 'generations' are clusters as imaginary as races and we should all stop pretending they're real.
Yes. |
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AVincentInSpace
pawb.social
AVincentInSpace@pawb.social Joined: 2023-09-13 |
Apple has never cost less than most competitors. And its OS has always cost more than free alternatives.
It was literally never true. The Commodore 64 came out months before the Apple IIe, cost half as much, and wiped the floor with it in terms of capabilities. |
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Goldholz
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2023-12-12 |
Almost like the 'generations' are clusters as imaginary as races and we should all stop pretending they're real.
Yep |
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Duamerthrax
lemmy.world
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-27 |
It actually was their slogan back then. Until they noticed people are dumb and easily manipulatable
Last new Mac I bought was the 2006 Mac Pro. The first x86 tower. I still consider it a good value because it was modular and upgradable and I did do many repairs and upgrades to it over the 10 years I ran the thing. I wasn't impressed with the cylinder, so my next machine after that was a hackintosh and I'm still using the hardware form that even though I stopped dual booting when Apple dropped 32bit support. |
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Duamerthrax
lemmy.world
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-27 |
I blame Apple for making the Zoomers as tech illiterate as the Boomers
Google and Chromebooks were worse. |
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Dyskolos
lemmy.zip
Dyskolos@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-10-01 |
It actually was their slogan back then which period "back then" are you referring to? 1976 maybe? the Apple I was affordable (at just $666.66 😄) compared to other kits at the time, but the Apple II (1977) cost more than twice what a TRS-80 did and afaik since then Apple has always positioned itself as a premium brand. i don't recall them ever having a comparative-price-related marketing slogan ...
Not THAT old.l, but old-ish. And I surely didn't wanted to imply that they actually we're cheaper. Just that it was their slogan. |
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Dyskolos
lemmy.zip
Dyskolos@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-10-01 |
Guess the 75-80% of other folks I work with are stupid noobs for using a Mac and never did anything because it was so locked down.
Well, you either care for freedom and privacy, or you don't. MacOS might have its benefits (and surely beats Microsoft), but the price is too high. And I don't mean the financial one. Personally, I've yet to see someone that really KNOWS computers but prefers Apple. Those, that just want a device that works without magic, are usually the ones going for it. |
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Boomer Humor Doomergod
lemmy.world
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-03-15 |
Well, you either care for freedom and privacy, or you don't. MacOS might have its benefits (and surely beats Microsoft), but the price is too high. And I don't mean the financial one. Personally, I've yet to see someone that really KNOWS computers but prefers Apple. Those, that just want a device that works without magic, are usually the ones going for it. To a very special kind of people it's ...
It’s a work computer. I have neither freedom nor privacy. |
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Dyskolos
lemmy.zip
Dyskolos@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-10-01 |
Last new Mac I bought was the 2006 Mac Pro. The first x86 tower. I still consider it a good value because it was modular and upgradable and I did do many repairs and upgrades to it over the 10 years I ran the thing. I wasn't impressed with the cylinder, so my next machine after that was a hackintosh and I'm still using the hardware form that even though I stopped dual booting when Apple dropped...
My last (and first) was a mac-vm 😁 Back then (even before their does-more-cost-less ads) they were just a joke. Today they're...well...🤷🏻 |
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Dyskolos
lemmy.zip
Dyskolos@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-10-01 |
It’s a work computer. I have neither freedom nor privacy.
Well, then others made that decision for you. If you like Mac or not stopped mattering then 😉 Luckily in these few times I tried working, I had the choice. Would've quit if there were privacy - concerns, though I might be a bit picky with my data... |
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Boomer Humor Doomergod
lemmy.world
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-03-15 |
Well, then others made that decision for you. If you like Mac or not stopped mattering then 😉 Luckily in these few times I tried working, I had the choice. Would've quit if there were privacy - concerns, though I might be a bit picky with my data...
I will ad that lately people working on Limux (Plus I’m good at demos.) |
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Dyskolos
lemmy.zip
Dyskolos@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-10-01 |
I will ad that lately people working on Limux Machines has become much more common. However, they still make me do the demos because every screen sharing app works on my Mac, no matter what the client is using. (Plus I’m good at demos.)
Well of course they work on Mac. It's a closed system, a walled garden of compability. Its main selling-point for the technically challenged. I would not really see that a a benefit though, as it's merely a symptom of an illness, even if inherently not bad by itself. |
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Boomer Humor Doomergod
lemmy.world
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-03-15 |
Well of course they work on Mac. It's a closed system, a walled garden of compability. Its main selling-point for the technically challenged. I would not really see that a a benefit though, as it's merely a symptom of an illness, even if inherently not bad by itself. If one doesn't care, then there's no problem at all and mac wins. Same as windows and android. Then it comes down to taste in UI ...
So things working is an illness. If computers are healthy and free things don’t work. Got it. |
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Dyskolos
lemmy.zip
Dyskolos@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-10-01 |
So things working is an illness. If computers are healthy and free things don’t work. Got it.
As said, it all depends on the foundation if you value your data/freedom or not. If not, then fine, everything ia great. It's not the working that is the illness, but the reason it does. I like when shit just works, I juggle 20 machines at home 😁 |
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Boomer Humor Doomergod
lemmy.world
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-03-15 |
As said, it all depends on the foundation if you value your data/freedom or not. If not, then fine, everything ia great. But many of us do to one extent or another. And then it's pretty obvious. It's not the working that is the illness, but the reason it does. I like when shit just works, I juggle 20 machines at home 😁
It’s not my data or freedom, it’s my employer’s. |
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Dyskolos
lemmy.zip
Dyskolos@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-10-01 |
It’s not my data or freedom, it’s my employer’s.
OK, then you, personally, are kinda safe-ish if you never do personal stuff on your work-machine. Fine. But most apple products are in private hands, not a mandated work-tool people can't escape. |
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onlinepersona
programming.dev
onlinepersona@programming.dev Joined: 2023-09-01 |
Schools stopped teaching basic computer skills in the 2010s. The assumption was, that since technology is becoming ubiquitous, that the kids would already know the basics.
I hate how tech YouTube's keep saying "the Chromebook is grat for students". No it's not! It is a locked down piece of crap that students can't even write their own programs for in the machine itself. |
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ElDuderino
lemmus.org
ElDuderino@lemmus.org Joined: 2026-08-13 |
I hate how tech YouTube's keep saying "the Chromebook is grat for students". No it's not! It is a locked down piece of crap that students can't even write their own programs for in the machine itself.
You can't even install your own programs or save anything to disk. Its truly an abomination. |
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