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supersquirrel
lemmy.ca
supersquirrel@lemmy.ca Joined: 2026-08-07 |
TOFU DOMINATION Link to open access article https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/sustainable-food-systems/articles/10.3389/fsufs.2026.1677796/full |
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Jo Miran
lemmy.ml
JoMiran@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-29 |
It seems that the biggest impact you can have with a diet change is to just stop eating beef. |
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usernamesAreTricky
lemmy.ml
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-06-01 |
It seems that the biggest impact you can have with a diet change is to just stop eating beef.
Beef is only part of the problem, it's rather bad but all animal products are super high emitters If we are concerned about the ethical side of things, swapping to other meats increases the number of animals slaughtered due to lower slaughter weights |
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lemmysmash
beehaw.org
lemmysmash@beehaw.org Joined: 2025-08-19 |
What is even the point of preserving liveable Earth if the food on it will taste like polystyrene? |
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Jo Miran
lemmy.ml
JoMiran@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-29 |
Beef is only part of the problem, it's rather bad but all animal products are super high emitters If we are concerned about the ethical side of things, swapping to other meats increases the number of animals slaughtered due to lower slaughter weights
I was commenting strictly based on the charts in the article. Beef seems to be the worse, by far. |
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usernamesAreTricky
lemmy.ml
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-06-01 |
What is even the point of preserving liveable Earth if the food on it will taste like polystyrene?
Tofu is extremely versatile in taste, it'll taste like whatever you season it with. It's more a vehicle for other flavor |
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Hugucinogens
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-06-20 |
Beef is only part of the problem, it's rather bad but all animal products are super high emitters If we are concerned about the ethical side of things, swapping to other meats increases the number of animals slaughtered due to lower slaughter weights
Yeah, but talking about beef is more about it being a good first step for people to take. Removing one thing from your diet that can easily be replaced, makes it easier for people to start their journey. Also, ethics is weird to bring and discuss in this issue, because... "What's worse"?
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It's all a criminal tragedy. I don't think it makes sense to compare them, comparison will never make sense, it's all arbitrary. What is not arbitrary, are the methods to wean people off of the habits that feed those industries, and the methods to reduce those industries' political power. |
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usernamesAreTricky
lemmy.ml
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-06-01 |
Yeah, but talking about beef is more about it being a good first step for people to take. Removing one thing from your diet that can easily be replaced, makes it easier for people to start their journey. Also, ethics is weird to bring and discuss in this issue, because... "What's worse"? 50 male chicks fed to the grinder alive at three days old, plus their 50 female cousins living in hell for 4...
I am doubtful advocating for switching one type of meat for another types of meat will lead towards people reducing their meat consumption in the end. I see it brought up way more often as an excuse to not reduce meat consumption |
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felixwhynot
lemmy.world
felixwhynot@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
I’m here for tofu recipes pls |
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queermunist she/her
lemmy.ml
queermunist@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-07-10 |
What is even the point of preserving liveable Earth if the food on it will taste like polystyrene?
You're a bad cook. |
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usernamesAreTricky
lemmy.ml
usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-06-01 |
I’m here for tofu recipes pls
There's a couple communities on Lemmy with a decent number of tofu recipes (plus plenty of other plant-based recipes which are not tofu) |
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Hobthrob
lemmy.world
Hobthrob@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-17 |
I am doubtful advocating for switching one type of meat for another types of meat will lead towards people reducing their meat consumption in the end. I see it brought up way more often as an excuse to not reduce meat consumption
This is anecdotal of course, but that was absolutely my journey. I went from a meat heavy diet to not eating meat the majority of the days, and still trying to gradually lower it further. For some people (like me) the barrier to lowering their meat consumption has more to do with having to learn a whole new paradigm of cooking, than being super invested in meat itself. In case like mine it really helps to do the changes little steps at a time, where you make just one relatively small change at a time, learn how to cook with that change in mind, and then move onto the next relatively small change. |
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Hobthrob
lemmy.world
Hobthrob@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-17 |
I’m here for tofu recipes pls
My personal favourite right now is:
Add together in a bowl, mix and serve. It's a super quick side that goes well with nearly any of my regular dishes, and I eat it several times a week. |
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abc
suppo.fi
abc@suppo.fi Joined: 2026-05-28 |
Not sure how they score, but chickpeas are pretty great too. Soak'em, mash'em, stick 'em in a falafel. |
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inlandempire
jlai.lu
inlandempire@jlai.luJoined: 2023-08-01 |
I’m here for tofu recipes pls
Scrambled tofu! Gotta translate this from french https://l-herboriste.com/tofu-brouille/ |
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abc
suppo.fi
abc@suppo.fi Joined: 2026-05-28 |
I’m here for tofu recipes pls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUI8Xu6Xpec (also contains chickpeas and dates) I tried this recently, and while it doesn't quite match the texture and sweetness of "real" cakes, it's ... not bad. If you pair it with something very sweet like whipped cream, it's actually very good. |
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Pratai
piefed.ca
Pratai@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-02-12 |
Clearly no bias at all! |
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queermunist she/her
lemmy.ml
queermunist@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-07-10 |
Ultimately, beyond the spreadsheets and scores lies a fundamental reckoning: our protein choice is a referendum on the compassion we are willing to show to animals, to the planet and to future generations. Clearly no bias at all!
Where's the lie? |
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Mouselemming
sh.itjust.works
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-12 |
Ultimately, beyond the spreadsheets and scores lies a fundamental reckoning: our protein choice is a referendum on the compassion we are willing to show to animals, to the planet and to future generations. Clearly no bias at all!
Personally I'm wondering why their beef item was steak and not ground beef. Because there's so much more of the animal that can be included, the impact would be smaller. |
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Mouselemming
sh.itjust.works
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-12 |
It seems that the biggest impact you can have with a diet change is to just stop eating beef.
Stop eating steak, you mean. Part of that high number is that there's only so many steaks on a steer. I mean, beef is still bad but it's exaggerated in the chart. |
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jet
hackertalks.com
jet@hackertalks.com Joined: 2023-07-06 |
Globally tofu production is somewhere raround 36 m metric tonnes/year. To eat 150g of protein per day using DIAAS scores (so that's amino acid complete as measured in animals) about 1.2kg of tofu is needed to be consumed, about 1,700kcal. production/consumption - a current global sustainable protein source for 40 million humans. (napkin math) Here is a map of current global tofu growing regions (2024) - https://doi.org/10.1038/s41597-024-04248-2
they also rate quinoa a high score - which to get 150g of DIAAS adjusted protein requires about 4kg of quinoa.... |
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zergtoshi
lemmy.world
zergtoshi@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-24 |
It seems that the biggest impact you can have with a diet change is to just stop eating beef.
Swap not just beef, but any meat for pulses and you've achieved a lot for yourself and the rest of the world. |
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Pratai
piefed.ca
Pratai@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-02-12 |
Personally I'm wondering why their beef item was steak and not ground beef. Because there's so much more of the animal that can be included, the impact would be smaller.
Well, if I had to guess, I’d say they started with the result they wanted, and worked backward from there. |
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CheesyFingers
piefed.social
CheesyFingers@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-12 |
I’m here for tofu recipes pls
Infredients: block of tofu Enjoy one bite at a time |
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Druid
lemmy.zip
v4ld1z@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-06-11 |
I’m here for tofu recipes pls
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Druid
lemmy.zip
v4ld1z@lemmy.zipJoined: 2023-06-11 |
What is even the point of preserving liveable Earth if the food on it will taste like polystyrene?
Tofu can taste like anything you want. It's the way you prepare and season it that makes the taste |
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pot_belly_mole
slrpnk.net
pot_belly_mole@slrpnk.netJoined: 2024-05-16 |
Globally tofu production is somewhere raround 36 m metric tonnes/year. To eat 150g of protein per day using DIAAS scores (so that's amino acid complete as measured in animals) about 1.2kg of tofu is needed to be consumed, about 1,700kcal. production/consumption - a current global sustainable protein source for 40 million humans. (napkin math) Here is a map of current global tofu growing regions...
I want to point out a few major issues with these calculations, and how to arrive at a more reasonable result. First, 150 g of protein per day is a big amount, something that you could recommend to a 100 kg person who does a lot of sports (if you assume 1.5 * bodymass in kg rule, which would be a mid-range estimate). 70-100 g would be more fitting to the average person. Second, you make the calculation as if tofu was the only source of protein. Eg. Menno Henselman, a muscle growth researcher, has stated that our bodies are actually remarkably good at combining amino acids from different protein sources digested throughout the day. His recommendation is to increase protein intake by 10-20% if you swap animal proteins to plant proteins (note that the amounts in his presentation are for bodybuilders). A balanced diet would include a fair amount of grains, even vegetables and mushrooms that have protein. So all of this would bring the amount of protein required from the main protein sources way down. Let's say that your main protein-rich foods would cover 70 percent of the total protein intake of a 100 g + 15% = 115 g (still quite a lot), that means 81 g of protein from tofu. With 14 g / 100g this would mean eating ~580 grams of tofu, or 145 g per meal over four meals, a very reasonable portion. Now, in reality, I would not recommend eating just tofu as your main protein four times a day, but of course use some of the other great plant-based protein sources mentioned, like seeds, beans, lentils etc. Personally, I even throw in some sustainably fished local fish. |
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bedwyr
piefed.ca
bedwyr@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-03-23 |
Too bad there isn't a good source of tofu in most grocer markets. Soy is one of the most suspect crops,with pesticides and such to start, and there just aren't many buying options, and they are all expensive-er than they should be. A pound is like a couple of bucks, but a pound isn't that much really. Making your own isn't really practicable, I saw a video on how they make it traditionally in East Asia and it's a big thing with many steps. |
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ChickenLadyLovesLife
lemmy.world
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
I’m here for tofu recipes pls
Crispy Tofu and Veg Stacks with Pea Puree and Lemon Herb Sauce I hate almost everything in this recipe but somehow it's insanely deliciious. |
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momocchi
lemmy.world
momocchi@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-02 |
I’m here for tofu recipes pls
I love this one a lot, i marinate the tofu in soy sauce, oil and a little 5 spice after freezing and pressing it |
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cybervegan
lemmy.world
cybervegan@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-04-30 |
Too bad there isn't a good source of tofu in most grocer markets. Soy is one of the most suspect crops,with pesticides and such to start, and there just aren't many buying options, and they are all expensive-er than they should be. A pound is like a couple of bucks, but a pound isn't that much really. Making your own isn't really practicable, I saw a video on how they make it traditionally in E...
90%+ of soya grown is used for animal feed. Funny how those of us that eat a lot of tofu manage to find it cheap very easily, and I'm still finding new types of Tofu 35 years later... I'm in the UK, but surely wherever you are can't be that far behind the rest of the world? We get tofu blocks in various forms from all supermarkets (Aldi, Lidl, Asda, Tesco... etc.) for about £1 per block. Equivalent meat costs probably £3-£5. We sometimes get fresh (unpackaged) and deep fried tofu from our local Asian cash-and-carry, plus various tinned, vac-packed and jarred varieties. Occasionally we get "expensive" tinned braised tofu from local wholefood shops as a treat. Occasionally we get a Chinese take-away - several of our local ones do Tofu and Seitan. Our favourite one does their vegan dishes £1-£3 cheaper than the non-vegan options. We don't buy frozen ready meals, but vegan ones do exist. We like cooking, and cook a lot from scratch, but there are lots of jarred sauces and sachets you can get that are vegan - it's completely possible to make a quick meal with a jar of pasta sauce, a tub of marinated tofu chunks and frozen veg, and it would still be cheaper than using frozen chicken chunks instead. It's there if you go looking for it. A vegan diet is pretty cheap in reality - about 30% cheaper the way we do it, and we're not particularly frugal about it, nor do we put in much effort to achieve it. We buy the things we like where we know we can get them, probably just like you do. |
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commie
lemmy.dbzer0.com
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-08-05 |
It seems that the biggest impact you can have with a diet change is to just stop eating beef.
this is just warmed over poore-nemecek 2018. it's not new, and it's not good science. |
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commie
lemmy.dbzer0.com
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Globally tofu production is somewhere raround 36 m metric tonnes/year. To eat 150g of protein per day using DIAAS scores (so that's amino acid complete as measured in animals) about 1.2kg of tofu is needed to be consumed, about 1,700kcal. production/consumption - a current global sustainable protein source for 40 million humans. (napkin math) Here is a map of current global tofu growing regions...
this is just poore-nemecek in a trench coat |
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AmbiguousCabbage
lemmy.dbzer0.com
AmbiguousCabbage@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-10-04 |
Well, if I had to guess, I’d say they started with the result they wanted, and worked backward from there.
I haven't read the article and I'm not saying you're wrong, but in general plant foods are known to have less environmental impact than animal products because animals are higher on the food chain, and it takes more energy to raise an animal for consumption (including the resources to grow food for the animal) than to just grow plants and consume them directly. |
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queermunist she/her
lemmy.ml
queermunist@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-07-10 |
I am doubtful advocating for switching one type of meat for another types of meat will lead towards people reducing their meat consumption in the end. I see it brought up way more often as an excuse to not reduce meat consumption
A lot of dietary choices are just inertia and fear of change. 🤷♀️ |
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apotheotic (she/her)
beehaw.org
apotheotic@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-07-11 |
What is even the point of preserving liveable Earth if the food on it will taste like polystyrene?
Tell me you don't know how to cook vegetables without telling me you don't know how to cook vegetables |
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zod000
lemmy.dbzer0.com
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-08-12 |
Too bad there isn't a good source of tofu in most grocer markets. Soy is one of the most suspect crops,with pesticides and such to start, and there just aren't many buying options, and they are all expensive-er than they should be. A pound is like a couple of bucks, but a pound isn't that much really. Making your own isn't really practicable, I saw a video on how they make it traditionally in E...
My wife has made tofu as few times as well as a tofu analog using different types of beans and it was surprisingly good and it was less intensive to make than I expected. Tofu is fairly cheap, but I imagine you could make large batches without much additional work. I can't say that her was following some traditional method which might be more work, but it matched what I expected from tofu in the taste/texture dept. |
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zod000
lemmy.dbzer0.com
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-08-12 |
I’m here for tofu recipes pls
I don't have a recipe as my wife is the tofu cook, but she uses silken tofu and cashews to make a shockingly good vegan mac and cheese. One of my kids became a vegetarian last year and now most of our meals are vegetarian or vegan just because it is too expensive and time consuming to make different meals. |
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Dogyote
slrpnk.net
Dogyote@slrpnk.net Joined: 2023-09-30 |
Too bad there isn't a good source of tofu in most grocer markets. Soy is one of the most suspect crops,with pesticides and such to start, and there just aren't many buying options, and they are all expensive-er than they should be. A pound is like a couple of bucks, but a pound isn't that much really. Making your own isn't really practicable, I saw a video on how they make it traditionally in E...
I've made my own tofu and it is not a big thing with many steps. Soak beans overnight, blend beans in blender, cook resulting slurry, strain, add coagulant, place in container and apply weight. It's about the same amount of work as baking bread. However it is not cheaper than buying tofu from the store unless you can find very cheap soybeans. |
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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞
lemmy.world
daychilde@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-13 |
Misread the title and read the article hoping to learn more about this "hostile" scoring system, only to be highly disappointed. lol |
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Ephera
lemmy.ml
Ephera@lemmy.ml Joined: 2020-05-31 |
I'm a bit surprised that tofu is ahead of beans, especially in the Planet Score, since it's kind of just further processed beans. My best guess is that the non-determinate "beans" are an average or something like kidney beans, whereas tofu is specifically soy beans.
Would probably need to e-mail them to ask for the actual data... 🥴 |
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HerbGrower
slrpnk.net
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-07-09 |
What's with the protein obsession? Eat more fiber, that is what almost everyone is lacking. |
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HerbGrower
slrpnk.net
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-07-09 |
I've made my own tofu and it is not a big thing with many steps. Soak beans overnight, blend beans in blender, cook resulting slurry, strain, add coagulant, place in container and apply weight. It's about the same amount of work as baking bread. However it is not cheaper than buying tofu from the store unless you can find very cheap soybeans.
Sounds a little similar to making cheese. Which you can do at home easily too. It just takes a lot of milk for not much cheese. Usually only do it if I obtain several litres of milk for free that would otherwise be wasted. |
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theprogman
lemmy.ca
theprogman@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-04 |
I’m here for tofu recipes pls
Magic Tofu Per pound or 454g of extra-firm tofu:
Enjoy on everything! I add it on top of pizzas, in wraps, in a plate with vegetables and rice... |
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BeMoreCareful
lemmy.world
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Misread the title and read the article hoping to learn more about this "hostile" scoring system, only to be highly disappointed. lol
We have ways of |
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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞
lemmy.world
daychilde@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-13 |
We have ways of making you talk calculating performance
For some reason, this reminds me of a story my dad told of being in college in the early 70s. Apparently there was a "game" going around - a sort of viral joke - that involved going up to someone and in a terrible German accent saying "Do you vant to play Geshtapo?" and no matter what they said, slapping them (probably gently) on the face and saying "You lie! You lie!" - probably funnier 30 years after WWII rather than 80 years we are now. heh. So he did this and it was fun until the one time he started to do it to one of the football players. Massive guy, not so quick on the uptake.... He said he went up to him, asked "Do you vant to play Geshtapo?" and started to put his hand up to slap him, and the guy grabbed his arm, looked confused and said, "What dis?" and my dad was like "Just a joke....... nevermind.........." lol. And that was the end of that! (I suppose it's too late to mention that my dad is on the shorter and scrawnier side) |
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Eric
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2026-04-03 |
I'm a bit surprised that tofu is ahead of beans, especially in the Planet Score, since it's kind of just further processed beans. My best guess is that the non-determinate "beans" are an average or something like kidney beans, whereas tofu is specifically soy beans. And well, Wikipedia tells me that soy beans kick ass: Cultivation of soybeans has one of the lowest needs for land use (1.3 m² / 1...
Beans are a less complete protein than soy, so you need to either eat a lot more or supplement with grain or dairy. |
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zaphod
sopuli.xyz
zaphod@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-12-04 |
What's with the protein obsession? Eat more fiber, that is what almost everyone is lacking.
Are there any health issues linked to a lack of fibre? |
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Sina
beehaw.org
Sina@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-07-02 |
What's with the protein obsession? Eat more fiber, that is what almost everyone is lacking.
It's a large ongoing Facebook campaign. My mom is also obsessed with protein suddenly, so dumb. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
What's with the protein obsession? Eat more fiber, that is what almost everyone is lacking.
Marketing. Also, people think you can only get protein from meat. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
Are there any health issues linked to a lack of fibre?
Colon cancer. |
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