He just wants to keep rolling the dice on his poor decisions until it pays off. I guess absorbing Tesla into the one "successful" IPO will hide the losses and leave the investors holding the bag.

What happens when he runs out if companies to merge and the whole house of cards comes down?

I predicted this when they had all their cars flying and shit. Its an advertisment for spacex while distracting from the car that theyre half a decade late to releasing.

Is this saying Musk talks to himself? It fits, I guess.

Fuck. He's doing the hand thing. That's bad for everyone.

He buys someone else’s good idea, promotes it as his idea, sues to say it’s his idea, the media buys that it’s his idea and touts him as a genius again, and he goes public with that company and merges them all once again

Building supercars is always more time consuming than anticipated. The Bugatti Veyron was unveiled in 1999 but it was repeatedly delayed for 6 years until they started actual production in 2005.

Musk is still an asshat, but the the timeline for the new roadster is not weird or sketchy (yet...)

Give it time. It will be weird and sketchy.

Well I did write "yet..."

buys someone else’s good idea

You only forgot to mention the part where he does this not with cash, but with his shares in his failing companies as collateral.

They could have come out with the original concept a long time ago. But that was never the plan. The whole thing was never anything but a stunt to grab attention. The flying roadster was certainly effective in that, but nobody is ever going to sit in one of those cars while the tanks are pressurised.

Just like the human robots.

The roadster was unveiled in 2017, and was supposed to come out in 2020.

It's been almost 10 years since the announcement, and almost 7 years since it was supposed to be out on the streets.

Since then it was postponed, at least twice, to 2023 and then 2024.

Not to mention that what they presented last week is in no way shape or form, anything like was it was supposed to be in 2020. And it's basically a gimmick.

It's EXTREMELY sketchy.

"Roadster" nah.

This isn't a roadster. It's a 2 door cybertruck without a bed.

The first Roadster was an actual roadster.

You know... An open cabin 2 seater sports car. That's a roadster. This? This ain't it.

Fair enough, I only had the "half decade" delay mentioned in the comment I replied to as reference, which in itself wouldn't be cause for concern.

I can't wait to see what Elon can do for Tesla with the extra budget from rolling it into SpaceX.

Imagine how many amazing new promises and forecasts can be made and broken.

Oh and I forgot about the hundreds of millions of dollars they took in advances for the Roadster.

Hundreds of millions in what amounts to a no-interest loan of 10 years.

Sooooo sketchy.

Buddy...

Don't you think if anyone should aware of how long it takes...

It should be the people trying to do it?

Like somehow you're arguing that "everyone" knows this, yet Musk clearly doesn't.

I think you just answered your own question.

Let me guess, a merger helps Musk hit profitability targets that adds another few hundred billion to his total compensation, while increasing his control?

Time is a flat circle.

And decreasing the usefulness of each input company

The first roadster wasn't even a Tesla, it was a repurposed Lotus.

All will become X. Like a butthole.

A butthole full of shit.

No, it's literally so he can say he is the founder once and for all.

Not as bad as his other hand thing, but yeah, pretty bad.

I believe American taxpayers should prepare to bail out the resulting company. Soon. With mountains of money.

The main product of SpaceX is corruption, they also have a side-business in rocketry.

Tesla is a publicity stunt company that occasionally sells cars. It seems natural to merge the two.

Is he trying to make it easier to seize them in the future? Everything except maybe for Tesla, which he is running into the ground by owning it, are international security threats.

That's the price you have to pay to never own a flying car

He lives only because you allow it

The main product of SpaceX is corruption, they also have a side-business in rocketry.

How so? I'm genuinely curious, don't know much about it, also not US-American

Wrong, $1 trillion pay package.

Sorry, I keep forgetting - the right process is, imagine the worst possible pay package that Musk could realistically get, and then add a zero.

I'm assuming the larger bottle next to him is the ketamine, what's in the smaller one?

I think it is actually the price to pay to finance institutional fascism

Musk used his informal position in Trump's admin to both cut funding to NASA and to direct contracts to SpaceX, and to squash federal investigations into his companies including SpaceX.

Trump authored policy that was favorable to SpaceX and he and his family heavily invested in SpaceX right before announcing the policy.

https://www.epi.org/blog/corruption-in-plain-sight-how-elon-musk-has-benefited-from-the-first-100-days-of-the-trump-administration/

https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/08/investing/trump-5-million-dollars-spacex-bonds

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/mar/25/doge-musk-spacex-starlink-contracts

Musk's Starlink has been regularly fucking over Ukraine for years now. The EU's finally had enough and is planning their own system.

And, ultimately, some third-rate power without an advanced space program is just going to decide to hurl a bunch frag grenades into space triggering a Kessler cascade and then we'll all be back to an even playing field.

What's better than taking millions of dollars in deposits to build a crappy car? Taking millions of dollars in deposits to build nothing and have a no-interest loan with no maturation date.

I got $20 that says it'll be the Houthies

I love that there are enough of those to be worth a separate wiki article.

From X to *. Like a puckered asshole. How long until it's named AsterX?

More ketamine

Thanks for the summary!

The outlook of Tesla isn't great, so it is a perfect fit for SpaceX+xAI. All the brand new models are burning trash heaps, there are two cash cow models increasingly aging, even with the face lifts. It makes sense to consolidate everything into one big grift conglomerate.

Ultimately you'll be able to summon your car anywhere … your car can get to you. I think that within two years, you'll be able to summon your car from across the country. It will meet you wherever your phone is … and it will just automatically charge itself along the entire journey."

He said that shit in January 2016 😄

Grok uses Claude, isn't even using it's own model. They gave up on that, because any competent staff they hire, leaves. Elon will go into history as the greatest incinerator of economic structure ever. The Epstein-class will forever regret letting him join. And Epstein knew...how crazy is that?

I had not heard of that. I think to stay correct, that needs some qualification. They have given up to compete with Claude on coding, so for agentic stuff the "Grok Bot" is using also Claude Opus 5.5. Grok still is an option too.

But yeah, it does sound like they are slowly giving up to compete at the very frontier.