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Magnum, P.I.
infosec.pub
Magnum@infosec.pubJoined: 2025-12-31 |
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Blaad
europe.pub
Blaad@europe.pub Joined: 2026-04-04 |
Ngl gimp never took off because it's UX is terrible, plus it's far from feature complete. It's like freecad in that regard, it exists, it's foss, but it's massively inferior to the paid options because UX is horrible and it breaks in weird ways. Foss can be as good or better than non foss, just look at blender or Kicad, but these two aren't it. |
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marduk
lemmy.sdf.org
marduk@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-07-20 |
Ngl gimp never took off because it's UX is terrible, plus it's far from feature complete. It's like freecad in that regard, it exists, it's foss, but it's massively inferior to the paid options because UX is horrible and it breaks in weird ways. Foss can be as good or better than non foss, just look at blender or Kicad, but these two aren't it.
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crandall
lemmy.today
crandall@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-08-11 |
Ngl gimp never took off because it's UX is terrible, plus it's far from feature complete. It's like freecad in that regard, it exists, it's foss, but it's massively inferior to the paid options because UX is horrible and it breaks in weird ways. Foss can be as good or better than non foss, just look at blender or Kicad, but these two aren't it.
The name doesn't help |
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naught101
lemmy.world
naught101@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-08 |
Ngl gimp never took off because it's UX is terrible, plus it's far from feature complete. It's like freecad in that regard, it exists, it's foss, but it's massively inferior to the paid options because UX is horrible and it breaks in weird ways. Foss can be as good or better than non foss, just look at blender or Kicad, but these two aren't it.
Gimp ux was bad. It's been fine for years. Freecad is WAY newer, and has had a fraction of the developer time spent on it. |
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Blaad
europe.pub
Blaad@europe.pub Joined: 2026-04-04 |
Gimp ux was bad. It's been fine for years. Freecad is WAY newer, and has had a fraction of the developer time spent on it.
I've spent 3 years learning freecad, and it's bad, it's entirely incapable of holding up against moderately complex projects, a simple fillet can break the whole model. It got better with 1.0 but it's still so very far from competing with fusion or inventor / catia... As for gimp... I've really tried adding it to my workflow, but it's been a massive headache, I'd likely use photocraft over it given both options... |
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psx_crab
lemmy.zip
psx_crab@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-01-11 |
Ngl gimp never took off because it's UX is terrible, plus it's far from feature complete. It's like freecad in that regard, it exists, it's foss, but it's massively inferior to the paid options because UX is horrible and it breaks in weird ways. Foss can be as good or better than non foss, just look at blender or Kicad, but these two aren't it.
I tried the "good UX" one back then when people hype around the update, and it still really hard to learn if you used to photoshop layout. These day, Krita is better i think, and Inkscape for the Illustrator alternative. |
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hendrik
palaver.p3x.de
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de Joined: 2021-08-21 |
Gimp ux was bad. It's been fine for years. Freecad is WAY newer, and has had a fraction of the developer time spent on it.
And CAD is ridiculously complex. Students also practice like half a year to cope with the proprietary market leaders. I sometimes think people complain because they confuse tools made for professionals with some game on easy mode. But yeah, FreeCAD also isn't on par with professional tools. It's surprisingly capable and has a lot of features. And they made it crash way less. 2 years ago it used to crash several times each project when adding some chamfers or some other easy stuff and I had to do lots of stuff in order or it wouldn't work. As of now I'd say it's perfectly usable for the average hobby project. Just don't expect any CAD software to be usable without any kind of background knowledge. There's other tools for that kind of 3D design. |
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Blaad
europe.pub
Blaad@europe.pub Joined: 2026-04-04 |
I tried the "good UX" one back then when people hype around the update, and it still really hard to learn if you used to photoshop layout. These day, Krita is better i think, and Inkscape for the Illustrator alternative.
Oh yeah Krita is FAR better than Gimp ux wise 100℅ |
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keylemmypie
reddthat.com
keylemmypie@reddthat.com Joined: 2026-10-13 |
I prefer photopea. Completely browser based and ready for anything quick. Haven't tried anything in depth with it though. |
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Asetru
feddit.org
Asetru@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-25 |
Ngl gimp never took off because it's UX is terrible, plus it's far from feature complete. It's like freecad in that regard, it exists, it's foss, but it's massively inferior to the paid options because UX is horrible and it breaks in weird ways. Foss can be as good or better than non foss, just look at blender or Kicad, but these two aren't it.
Uh. |
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Blaad
europe.pub
Blaad@europe.pub Joined: 2026-04-04 |
bashes gimp for its ui uses blender as a positive example in that regard Uh.
Blender is not that bad, not even close in fact. Have you tried learning it at all? I know I have and per hour spent it's far more empowering than other comparatively complex software. You can't compare a 2d picture editor to a full 3d modeling suite like they're even remotely close. Blender is better. |
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mycodesucks
lemmy.world
mycodesucks@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-03-08 |
You named it GIMP. It's a joke to YOU, too. |
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magic_smoke
lemmy.blahaj.zone
magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-01-27 |
Hell hath no fury like a photographer told to use UX that isn't literally an 1:1 exact clone of Photoshop UX. What babies. |
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inari
piefed.zip
inari@piefed.zipJoined: 2026-02-07 |
You named it GIMP. It's a joke to YOU, too.
A lot of free software has silly names, it's part of the 80s/90s nerdy computing culture |
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gilokee
lemmy.world
gilokee@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-16 |
gimp fucking sucks though. |
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glimse
lemmy.world
glimse@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
Gimp ux was bad. It's been fine for years. Freecad is WAY newer, and has had a fraction of the developer time spent on it.
"Fine" meaning "it's technically possible to use it." Adding and editing text is a nightmare. I feel like the only way you could say with a straight face is if you haven't used Photoshop since 2006. Hell, PowerPoint has a better interface in a lot of ways. I hate dunking on them like that but let's not lie to ourselves here. GIMP is good enough but the UI was clearly made by engineers, not artists |
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egrets
lemmy.world
egrets@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
Hell hath no fury like a photographer told to use UX that isn't literally an 1:1 exact clone of Photoshop UX. What babies.
Ironically, this attitude is a major blocker for the GIMP team when it comes to bigger UI/UX changes -- there's a vocal contingent who will react negatively to any change that requires a little adjustment to workflow or muscle memory, or even if things just look different. Firefox's incredibly light-touch visual changes recently are a great example of this; it's not "this is demonstrably worse," it's "change makes me uncomfortable." I do totally appreciate that changes can be genuinely problematic for a subset of users, especially the elderly, but the vitriol that gets spewed when a project overhauls a UI embarrasses me as a user. Side note: the GIMP UI is generally pretty good these days. There's room for improvement, and it has a learning curve (as do all complex applications, to some degree) but it's shed a lot of its least intuitive aspects. |
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TrickDacy
Moderator
TrickDacy@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-27 |
Hell hath no fury like a photographer told to use UX that isn't literally an 1:1 exact clone of Photoshop UX. What babies.
Yes, nothing says
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AllNewTypeFace
leminal.space
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.spaceJoined: 2023-08-20 |
If you give your project an edgy, borderline-offensive name, don’t be surprised if the normies steer well away from it, to the point of choosing obvious AI slop if it happens to look like a solid commercial product that was signed off by a corporate legal department. |
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TrickDacy
Moderator
TrickDacy@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-27 |
gimp fucking sucks though.
I don't think it sucks, but people thinking it's painful to use ought to be taken as legitimate feedback instead of blind hate. It's a weird UI. I want to like it but I can barely use it even when I force myself to. |
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Asetru
feddit.org
Asetru@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-25 |
Blender is not that bad, not even close in fact. Have you tried learning it at all? I know I have and per hour spent it's far more empowering than other comparatively complex software. You can't compare a 2d picture editor to a full 3d modeling suite like they're even remotely close. Blender is better.
Yes, I did try it. I also know my way around other 3d software and blender's horrible ux has consistently driven me away from it. And I know that 2d and 3d software packages are different. Duh. Doesn't mean 3d software has to be bad though. |
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ParlimentOfDoom
piefed.zip
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-09-26 |
Blender is not that bad, not even close in fact. Have you tried learning it at all? I know I have and per hour spent it's far more empowering than other comparatively complex software. You can't compare a 2d picture editor to a full 3d modeling suite like they're even remotely close. Blender is better.
Blender is horrendous. And that's comparing it to other 3d modelling programs. They throw like 8 different subsystems' UIs onto the screen at once. If I'm trying to model an object, I don't the damn animation timeline taking up half my screen. |
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architect
thelemmy.club
architect@thelemmy.club Joined: 2025-09-04 |
gimp fucking sucks though.
It does and I’m dying on this hill with you. |
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knoxer (read bio)
lemmy.world
Knoxer@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-10-29 |
Lol no. |
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Dagnet
lemmy.world
Dagnet@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
"Fine" meaning "it's technically possible to use it." Adding and editing text is a nightmare. I feel like the only way you could say with a straight face is if you haven't used Photoshop since 2006. Hell, PowerPoint has a better interface in a lot of ways. I hate dunking on them like that but let's not lie to ourselves here. GIMP is good enough but the UI was clearly made by engineers, not artists
I'm an engineer and I have no idea what they were going for with that UI |
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glimse
lemmy.world
glimse@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
I'm an engineer and I have no idea what they were going for with that UI
That's fair. I'm an engineer, too, and the UI brings me pain. Especially because my previous career had creative cloud as the daily software. I guess I meant more the engineer mindset of "I already know how to use it so it's good enough" It reminds me of AutoCAD, my current daily software, which feels like a thousand bandaids stacked on top of each other over the course of 25 years. I feel obligated to say that having a bad UI doesn't mean it's bad software. I'm just tired of people pretending it's polished lol |
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elucubra
sopuli.xyz
elucubra@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-03 |
Ngl gimp never took off because it's UX is terrible, plus it's far from feature complete. It's like freecad in that regard, it exists, it's foss, but it's massively inferior to the paid options because UX is horrible and it breaks in weird ways. Foss can be as good or better than non foss, just look at blender or Kicad, but these two aren't it.
Freecad is NOT like gimp. They are not hell bent o forcing people to do things their way. They constantly evolve, and pay real attention to what the community wants. They are one of FOSS' example of how things should be. I really like it and how it's evolving. |
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elucubra
sopuli.xyz
elucubra@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-03 |
I've spent 3 years learning freecad, and it's bad, it's entirely incapable of holding up against moderately complex projects, a simple fillet can break the whole model. It got better with 1.0 but it's still so very far from competing with fusion or inventor / catia... As for gimp... I've really tried adding it to my workflow, but it's been a massive headache, I'd likely use photocraft over it g...
When was the last time you tried? Free CAD evolves at breakneck speed. |
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Hedup
lemmy.world
Hedup@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-05-22 |
Ironically, this attitude is a major blocker for the GIMP team when it comes to bigger UI/UX changes -- there's a vocal contingent who will react negatively to any change that requires a little adjustment to workflow or muscle memory, or even if things just look different. Firefox's incredibly light-touch visual changes recently are a great example of this; it's not "this is demonstrably worse,...
I wonder if it's possible to build seperate UI that sits on top of the underlying backend and can be switched easily. So that ppl from PS can start quick. |
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Hond
piefed.social
Hond@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-28 |
I prefer photopea. Completely browser based and ready for anything quick. Haven't tried anything in depth with it though.
Photopea is really good. It pretty much has all the tools i ever need as someone who had a passion for graphics design/photo editing in their youth but never went pro. It gets shit done for some simple stuff i want to slap together now and then. But some stuff gets laggy really fast. Like worse than PS CS2 on my Pentium 4 shitbox 20 years ago. I wish we could have Photopea without browser technology in an appimage/flatpak or whatever. It would be perfect. |
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NightShot
lemmy.world
NightShot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-12 |
Ngl gimp never took off because it's UX is terrible, plus it's far from feature complete. It's like freecad in that regard, it exists, it's foss, but it's massively inferior to the paid options because UX is horrible and it breaks in weird ways. Foss can be as good or better than non foss, just look at blender or Kicad, but these two aren't it.
Isn't GIMPs UX just old photoshop ? |
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egrets
lemmy.world
egrets@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
will react negatively to any change that requires a little adjustment to workflow or muscle memory, or even if things just look different. I wonder if it's possible to build seperate UI that sits on top of the underlying backend and can be switched easily. So that ppl from PS can start quick.
I think a lot of people underestimate the maintenance burden of options like this. It's another trope you see often with UI changes -- "just let me switch it back." The problem is that now, even if your UI is super nicely decoupled from your engine, everything you change under the hood is likely to need at least regression testing in two places rather than one -- that workload has doubled. As it happens, though, with your specific example, there's someone actively maintaining a GIMP |
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Agrivar
lemmy.world
Agrivar@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-26 |
It does and I’m dying on this hill with you.
Good riddance to you both. |
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kazerniel
quokk.au
kazerniel@quokk.auJoined: 2026-10-18 |
I tried the "good UX" one back then when people hype around the update, and it still really hard to learn if you used to photoshop layout. These day, Krita is better i think, and Inkscape for the Illustrator alternative.
Inkscape's UI is very unintuitive to me, as someone used to Illustrator. The necessary tools mostly exist, but not where I would look for them. |
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stoly
lemmy.world
stoly@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-01-04 |
Ironically, this attitude is a major blocker for the GIMP team when it comes to bigger UI/UX changes -- there's a vocal contingent who will react negatively to any change that requires a little adjustment to workflow or muscle memory, or even if things just look different. Firefox's incredibly light-touch visual changes recently are a great example of this; it's not "this is demonstrably worse,...
You get the same with Apple fans when Apple introduces something new. They all get really angry about it. |
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kazerniel
quokk.au
kazerniel@quokk.auJoined: 2026-10-18 |
A lot of free software has silly names, it's part of the 80s/90s nerdy computing culture
Google too 🙃
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kazerniel
quokk.au
kazerniel@quokk.auJoined: 2026-10-18 |
is this some kind of AI upscale of the meme? His skin has a fabric-like texture, uncanny 👀 |
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magic_smoke
lemmy.blahaj.zone
magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-01-27 |
Yes, nothing says Hell hath no fury Like I don't know, I just cannot get used to it and I don't like the shortcut keys.
Yeah its called hyperbole, you should try it sometime. Seriously though, as someone who's main creative outlet is game dev (among other forms of programming), if I can learn a new engine, including new languages and core concepts required to work with the new tools, they can learn to locate some icons and context menus that moved. Like Jesus, what do said people do when their OS upgrades versions? |
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dumnezero
piefed.social
dumnezero@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-11-27 |
I see a lot of whining about the name. Just use the full name if you don't like the acronym. |
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madmantis24
lemmy.wtf
madmantis24@lemmy.wtf Joined: 2026-01-14 |
Ngl gimp never took off because it's UX is terrible, plus it's far from feature complete. It's like freecad in that regard, it exists, it's foss, but it's massively inferior to the paid options because UX is horrible and it breaks in weird ways. Foss can be as good or better than non foss, just look at blender or Kicad, but these two aren't it.
Blender had years before it earned the reputation as the exception |
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kazerniel
quokk.au
kazerniel@quokk.auJoined: 2026-10-18 |
Ironically, this attitude is a major blocker for the GIMP team when it comes to bigger UI/UX changes -- there's a vocal contingent who will react negatively to any change that requires a little adjustment to workflow or muscle memory, or even if things just look different. Firefox's incredibly light-touch visual changes recently are a great example of this; it's not "this is demonstrably worse,...
Some people get used to how their daily tools work and look, so when the UI suddenly changes, our efficiency and comfort decreases until we tweak it to our liking and/or get used to it. The closest analogue I can think of, imagine that every few years you wake up to the furniture having been rearranged in your house. I didn't see the point of the Firefox redesign either, and had to spend some time in userchrome.css to make it not actively repulsive :/ A few weeks later now I reached the state of "eh ok", but I still don't think it's an improvement. |
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madmantis24
lemmy.wtf
madmantis24@lemmy.wtf Joined: 2026-01-14 |
If you give your project an edgy, borderline-offensive name, don’t be surprised if the normies steer well away from it, to the point of choosing obvious AI slop if it happens to look like a solid commercial product that was signed off by a corporate legal department.
This is the real issue, AI slop gives the prudes too much power |
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TrickDacy
Moderator
TrickDacy@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-27 |
Yeah its called hyperbole, you should try it sometime. Seriously though, as someone who's main creative outlet is game dev (among other forms of programming), if I can learn a new engine, including new languages and core concepts required to work with the new tools, they can learn to locate some icons and context menus that moved. Like Jesus, what do said people do when their OS upgrades versions?
You're just dismissing the claims that the UI is bad and bolstering your ability to adapt. Why can't everyone be just like you? That's not how the world works.
If your question were real, you'd probably know that everyone complains about UI changes with updates. Usually it's a temporary annoyance forgotten a week later. Other times, such as windows 11, they switch OSes. People with UI preferences aren't broken and they don't owe you anything. Stubbornly rejecting feedback might get you upvotes itt, but it won't get you very far elsewhere. |
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DragonOracleIX
lemmy.ml
DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-08-07 |
gimp fucking sucks though.
Totally agree with you. I struggle to use it because it doesn't function the way I expect it to when I am trying to edit something. Still have it installed anyways because it has decent gif support. |
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plateee
piefed.social
plateee@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-09-20 |
The name doesn't help
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uber_chicken
lemmy.world
uber_chicken@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-02 |
Ngl gimp never took off because it's UX is terrible, plus it's far from feature complete. It's like freecad in that regard, it exists, it's foss, but it's massively inferior to the paid options because UX is horrible and it breaks in weird ways. Foss can be as good or better than non foss, just look at blender or Kicad, but these two aren't it.
Also a lot of people associate the word 'gimp' with something else |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
HOW DO I DRAW A CIRCLE |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
Ironically, this attitude is a major blocker for the GIMP team when it comes to bigger UI/UX changes -- there's a vocal contingent who will react negatively to any change that requires a little adjustment to workflow or muscle memory, or even if things just look different. Firefox's incredibly light-touch visual changes recently are a great example of this; it's not "this is demonstrably worse,...
okay but some of google's icon changes have been really bad |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
Some people get used to how their daily tools work and look, so when the UI suddenly changes, our efficiency and comfort decreases until we tweak it to our liking and/or get used to it. The closest analogue I can think of, imagine that every few years you wake up to the furniture having been rearranged in your house. I didn't see the point of the Firefox redesign either, and had to spend some t...
maybe every few years you get a new car? it does all the same things, maybe even better things with new bells and whistles, but fuck all y'all who decided to get rid of my buttons [oldmanyellsatclouds.jif] |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
I think a lot of people underestimate the maintenance burden of options like this. It's another trope you see often with UI changes -- "just let me switch it back." The problem is that now, even if your UI is super nicely decoupled from your engine, everything you change under the hood is likely to need at least regression testing in two places rather than one -- that workload has doubled. As i...
you just explained fairly well to me why windows decided to lock the taskbar on the bottom for a while. or at least a reason they might. |
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