Hohoho: how about our ancestors that live at the bottom of the ocean near volcanic vents? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrothermal_vent?wprov=sfti1

I seem to recall one of the primates we taught sign language to indicated that they liked cooked food more because it tasted better.

My cat does. She prefers it cooked, but knows to wait for it to cool down a little.

Sign language in primates is dubious at best.

Especially if they use it to ask for steak well done.

He gets the Children's Chimpanzee Menu

My dog occasionally likes a bite of pizza and burgers. Cats like some hamburger or tuna helper out of the bottom of the pan

And ask for ketchup!

We tortured a lot of apes to prove Noam Chomsky right: language was an innate human ability and not something other animals can learn. Even the apes that learned English words or sign never once asked a question.

Almost everything you've heard that an Ape "singed" was "interpreted" by a handler or trainer; the actual transcripts are not intelligible. I'm sure some researchers and trainers were acting in good faith, but you can see how much room to fudge there is.

Coco the gorilla was a fraud. (well, her handlers were frauds) for example, her handler often claimed that Coco would use rhymes to indicate what she "really" meant. The problem is that a native sign-language user would have no idea that two English words rhymed. Their are rhymes in sign, where the motions are similar, not the phonetics.

lol no. Not in the absolute sense. Language IS NOT IN ANY WAY, "unique to humans". Period. Ever.

In fact, there have been a few recent studies that show whale language is as complicated as Chinese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human

You are very intelligent

👉 🤱

Mice prefer cooked food:
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2011/11/why-cooking-counts/

Great apes as well:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0047248408000481

My previous cat was the opposite. She liked organic, grass fed ground beef, but only raw. If I offered a piece even slightly cooked, she gave me a glare that screamed "What did you do to that? How could you ruin it like that!" and would march off in a huff.

Seaguls ain't stealing nobody's alfalfa sprouts

Heating counts as processing. It’s not natural or organic enough for her. Pretty high standards.

The problem is that a native sign-language user would have no idea that two English words rhymed

I do agree it's a fraud, but I'd also say "native sign language speaker" is a bit of a misnomer. Comparing it to a human we'd be talking about someone with perfect hearing but born mute. IE if they were taught by someone who spoke out loud as they signed, they would understand ryming in ways that someone who was deaf obviously wouldn't.

The point stands

One of my buns tried to drink apple cider I made while I was trying to cool it down for him. Never again has he tried stealing anything a little hot again... 😅

A random arrangement of grains of sand is more complicated than Chinese.

We already knew many great apes preferred cooked food. That study is specifically about chimps.

I just found it mildly funny that the study was essentially titled "Humans prefer cooked food."

Buns?

Poster is like American. *guns.

My dogs seem to prefer cooked food to raw, so I don't know how true this is.

It ruins It! Give it to us raw and wwwrigling.

Ahh, I assumed bunny. But you’re right, American makes the pet gun with typo scenario at least marginally more likely,

A random arrangement of my shit is more complicated than your brain.

Your opinion means less than nothing.

riiiight... I meant bunnies (rabbits)

maybe my keyboard isn't american enough, never made me typo guns lol

Repost - Failed at replying to a thread properly, sigh

What about the one where the Japanese guy isolated the bird language words for "danger, snake!", then played it on speakers to wild birds, which caused them to panic and start looking around for the snake.

One of the most convincing experiments showing that animals have language that I've seen. The video is on YouTube