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WeHi
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susieq0044
sh.itjust.works
susieq0044@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-09-13 |
Hohoho: how about our ancestors that live at the bottom of the ocean near volcanic vents? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrothermal_vent?wprov=sfti1 |
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Sludgehammer
lemmy.world
Sludgehammer@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-03 |
I seem to recall one of the primates we taught sign language to indicated that they liked cooked food more because it tasted better. |
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neidu4
piefed.social
neidu4@piefed.social Joined: 2026-09-10 |
My cat does. She prefers it cooked, but knows to wait for it to cool down a little. |
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NathanRanch
lemmy.zip
NathanRanch@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-07-30 |
I seem to recall one of the primates we taught sign language to indicated that they liked cooked food more because it tasted better.
Sign language in primates is dubious at best. |
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spittingimage
lemmy.world
spittingimage@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-20 |
Sign language in primates is dubious at best.
Especially if they use it to ask for steak well done. |
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NathanRanch
lemmy.zip
NathanRanch@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-07-30 |
Especially if they use it to ask for steak well done.
He gets the Children's Chimpanzee Menu |
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KC_Royalz
lemmy.world
KC_Royalz@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-04-02 |
My dog occasionally likes a bite of pizza and burgers. Cats like some hamburger or tuna helper out of the bottom of the pan |
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snooggums
piefed.world
snooggums@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-08 |
Especially if they use it to ask for steak well done.
And ask for ketchup! |
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yesman
lemmy.world
yesman@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-06 |
Sign language in primates is dubious at best.
We tortured a lot of apes to prove Noam Chomsky right: language was an innate human ability and not something other animals can learn. Even the apes that learned English words or sign never once asked a question. Almost everything you've heard that an Ape "singed" was "interpreted" by a handler or trainer; the actual transcripts are not intelligible. I'm sure some researchers and trainers were acting in good faith, but you can see how much room to fudge there is. Coco the gorilla was a fraud. (well, her handlers were frauds) for example, her handler often claimed that Coco would use rhymes to indicate what she "really" meant. The problem is that a native sign-language user would have no idea that two English words rhymed. Their are rhymes in sign, where the motions are similar, not the phonetics. |
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spankysalmon
fedinsfw.app
spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-02-28 |
We tortured a lot of apes to prove Noam Chomsky right: language was an innate human ability and not something other animals can learn. Even the apes that learned English words or sign never once asked a question. Almost everything you've heard that an Ape "singed" was "interpreted" by a handler or trainer; the actual transcripts are not intelligible. I'm sure some researchers and trainers were ...
lol no. Not in the absolute sense. Language IS NOT IN ANY WAY, "unique to humans". Period. Ever. In fact, there have been a few recent studies that show whale language is as complicated as Chinese. |
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db2
lemmy.world
db2@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-29 |
Sign language in primates is dubious at best.
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NathanRanch
lemmy.zip
NathanRanch@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-07-30 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human
You are very intelligent |
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db2
lemmy.world
db2@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-29 |
You are very intelligent
๐ ๐คฑ |
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water
lemmy.world
water@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Mice prefer cooked food: Great apes as well: |
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halyihev
lemmy.world
halyihev@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-03-16 |
My cat does. She prefers it cooked, but knows to wait for it to cool down a little.
My previous cat was the opposite. She liked organic, grass fed ground beef, but only raw. If I offered a piece even slightly cooked, she gave me a glare that screamed "What did you do to that? How could you ruin it like that!" and would march off in a huff. |
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humanspiral
lemmy.ca
humanspiral@lemmy.ca Joined: 2024-10-23 |
Seaguls ain't stealing nobody's alfalfa sprouts |
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Doc_Crankenstein
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Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net Joined: 2025-01-08 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human
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TranquilTurbulence
lemmy.zip
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zipJoined: 2024-05-19 |
My previous cat was the opposite. She liked organic, grass fed ground beef, but only raw. If I offered a piece even slightly cooked, she gave me a glare that screamed "What did you do to that? How could you ruin it like that!" and would march off in a huff.
Heating counts as processing. Itโs not natural or organic enough for her. Pretty high standards. |
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TheFogan
programming.dev
TheFogan@programming.dev Joined: 2023-07-12 |
We tortured a lot of apes to prove Noam Chomsky right: language was an innate human ability and not something other animals can learn. Even the apes that learned English words or sign never once asked a question. Almost everything you've heard that an Ape "singed" was "interpreted" by a handler or trainer; the actual transcripts are not intelligible. I'm sure some researchers and trainers were ...
I do agree it's a fraud, but I'd also say "native sign language speaker" is a bit of a misnomer. Comparing it to a human we'd be talking about someone with perfect hearing but born mute. IE if they were taught by someone who spoke out loud as they signed, they would understand ryming in ways that someone who was deaf obviously wouldn't. |
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_g_be
lemmy.world
_g_be@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-21 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human
The point stands |
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zaury27
lemmy.world
zaury27@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-09-01 |
One of my buns tried to drink apple cider I made while I was trying to cool it down for him. Never again has he tried stealing anything a little hot again... ๐ |
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HugeNerd
lemmy.ca
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-06 |
lol no. Not in the absolute sense. Language IS NOT IN ANY WAY, "unique to humans". Period. Ever. In fact, there have been a few recent studies that show whale language is as complicated as Chinese.
A random arrangement of grains of sand is more complicated than Chinese. |
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goodguys9
lemmy.ca
goodguys9@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
Mice prefer cooked food: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2011/11/why-cooking-counts/ Great apes as well: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0047248408000481
We already knew many great apes preferred cooked food. That study is specifically about chimps. I just found it mildly funny that the study was essentially titled "Humans prefer cooked food." |
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P1nkman
lemmy.world
P1nkman@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-04-28 |
One of my buns tried to drink apple cider I made while I was trying to cool it down for him. Never again has he tried stealing anything a little hot again... ๐
Buns? |
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MonaySimpson
lemmy.ml
MonaySimpson@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-04-28 |
Buns?
Poster is like American. *guns. |
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๐ฐ ๐ ๐ฑ ๐ฆ ๐ณ ๐ฆ ๐ฐ ๐ฎ
pawb.social
Kolanaki@pawb.socialJoined: 2024-10-06 |
My dogs seem to prefer cooked food to raw, so I don't know how true this is. |
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mangaskahn
lemmy.world
mangaskahn@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-02 |
My previous cat was the opposite. She liked organic, grass fed ground beef, but only raw. If I offered a piece even slightly cooked, she gave me a glare that screamed "What did you do to that? How could you ruin it like that!" and would march off in a huff.
It ruins It! Give it to us raw and wwwrigling. |
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partofthevoice
lemmy.zip
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-10-26 |
Poster is like American. *guns.
Ahh, I assumed bunny. But youโre right, American makes the pet gun with typo scenario at least marginally more likely, |
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zaury27
lemmy.world
zaury27@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-09-01 |
One of my buns tried to drink apple cider I made while I was trying to cool it down for him. Never again has he tried stealing anything a little hot again... ๐
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spankysalmon
fedinsfw.app
spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-02-28 |
A random arrangement of grains of sand is more complicated than Chinese.
A random arrangement of my shit is more complicated than your brain. Your opinion means less than nothing. |
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zaury27
lemmy.world
zaury27@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-09-01 |
Ahh, I assumed bunny. But youโre right, American makes the pet gun with typo scenario at least marginally more likely,
riiiight... I meant bunnies (rabbits) maybe my keyboard isn't american enough, never made me typo guns lol Repost - Failed at replying to a thread properly, sigh |
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Heide
lemmy.world
Heide@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-08-27 |
lol no. Not in the absolute sense. Language IS NOT IN ANY WAY, "unique to humans". Period. Ever. In fact, there have been a few recent studies that show whale language is as complicated as Chinese.
What about the one where the Japanese guy isolated the bird language words for "danger, snake!", then played it on speakers to wild birds, which caused them to panic and start looking around for the snake. One of the most convincing experiments showing that animals have language that I've seen. The video is on YouTube |
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