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return2ozma lemmy.world return2ozma@lemmy.world
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athatet lemmy.zip athatet@lemmy.zip
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Viral slop. Wonderful

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brem lemmy.world brem@lemmy.world
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At least the zombies created with AI will be extra fucking lame and predictable

"That's absolutely correct, I'm definitely going to eat your brains with my teeth! Would you like more recommendations on how to eat brains?"

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mycodesucks lemmy.world mycodesucks@lemmy.world
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"Did someone say phage?"

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SippyCup lemmy.world SippyCup@lemmy.world
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"Did someone say phage?"
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peopleproblems lemmy.world peopleproblems@lemmy.world
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... is it a virus generated by LLMs, or a virus designed by a model explicitly trained on viruses?

The worst damage LLMs do is when the term AI is automatically rejected by people who don't understand it.

And that might be intentional.

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ZephyrXero lemmy.world ZephyrXero@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
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Well, that's the dumbest headline I've read all week. What could possibly go wrong?

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StabbingSky lemmy.zip StabbingSky@lemmy.zip
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AI ≠ LLM

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EisFrei lemmy.world EisFrei@lemmy.world
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AI ≠ LLM

May I propose

LLM ⊂ AI

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pomegranatefern sh.itjust.works pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-29
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  1. For context, this is a bacteriophage, which is a virus which infects bacteria. It is being used in a compassionate use scenario as a last-ditch effort against an antibiotic resistant bacterial infection.
  2. Bacteriophages tend to be sufficiently specialized to infect viruses that there's not really a risk of them infecting humans. (There is some possibility of bacteriophages infecting beneficial bacteria such as the human gut biome, but I don't know how much of a risk that would be in this case)
  3. While I'm not clear on the details of the AI being used here, it is described as a "multimodal genome language model" by the company and appears to be trained very specifically on the genetic data of bacteriophages which infect the target bacteria.

When it comes to medicine, it's best to move slowly and keep things intact, and while AI trained like this does have promise for exactly these sorts of medical purposes, it's still algorithms outputting stuff which cannot be blindly trusted. But this also isn't ChatGPT spitting out some idea of bacterial genetic code it generated from predictive text based on the collected works of Michael Crichton. Let's not spread misinformed panic.

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Mirshe lemmy.world Mirshe@lemmy.world
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"Did someone say phage?"

Aw damn Neelix is gonna get his lungs stolen again.

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shalafi lemmy.world shalafi@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-22
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AI ≠ LLM

Colloquially they're the same, but wouldn't this sort of thing more fall under machine learning? I've never been clear on the difference.

You're right in any case. Just like the DC hate, blanket AI hate is going to result in friendly fire.

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shalafi lemmy.world shalafi@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-22
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They can't be too new or they wouldn't be anywhere near human trials. Anyway, this is the sort of thing AI (machine learning?) excels at. Not getting excited until we see peer review, but the methodology seems sound (to me, an armchair biologist).

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dgdft lemmy.world dgdft@lemmy.world
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They can't be too new or they wouldn't be anywhere near human trials. Anyway, this is the sort of thing AI (machine learning?) excels at. Not getting excited until we see peer review, but the methodology seems sound (to me, an armchair biologist).

They’re skipping that whole “human trial” thing by going for a compassionate use exemption

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/public-health-focus/expanded-access

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dgdft lemmy.world dgdft@lemmy.world
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AI ≠ LLM

I don’t disagree with the general statement… but this was specifically done with an LLM, so it seems like a moot point?

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dgdft lemmy.world dgdft@lemmy.world
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... is it a virus generated by LLMs, or a virus designed by a model explicitly trained on viruses? The worst damage LLMs do is when the term AI is automatically rejected by people who don't understand it. And that might be intentional.

Based on the linked paper, it reads like they took an existing open weight LLM, tacked on a scheme to parse and output genomics data, and finetuned it a bit. It’s the same approach chatgpt and other big-name models use for reading and producing images, but applied to a different data format.

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shalafi lemmy.world shalafi@lemmy.world
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They’re skipping that whole “human trial” thing by going for a compassionate use exemption https://www.fda.gov/news-events/public-health-focus/expanded-access

I'm down for that and think it needs expanded. If I'm terminal, I want the choice to be used as an experiment, assuming the FDA finds the treatment somewhat viable.

Dad had mesothelioma from serving on a WWII destroyer (asbestos wrapped pipes, all those men died by the 80s). He went to some quack in the Bahamas who mixed up snake oil from all his patient's plasma, patients who later tested positive for AIDS. AIDS hit the public conscious right about when dad died. One wonders...

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dgdft lemmy.world dgdft@lemmy.world
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I'm down for that and think it needs expanded. If I'm terminal, I want the choice to be used as an experiment, assuming the FDA finds the treatment somewhat viable. Dad had mesothelioma from serving on a WWII destroyer (asbestos wrapped pipes, all those men died by the 80s). He went to some quack in the Bahamas who mixed up snake oil from all his patient's plasma, patients who later tested posi...

Yeah, totally agreed.

It’s a tough balancing act to filter the snake oil while taking viable moonshots, but I think that’s a niche that the US regulatory regime has generally done well on, all things considered.

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Zos_Kia jlai.lu Zos_Kia@jlai.lu
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So uuuuh... Bioslop?

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Avicenna programming.dev Avicenna@programming.dev
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They can't be too new or they wouldn't be anywhere near human trials. Anyway, this is the sort of thing AI (machine learning?) excels at. Not getting excited until we see peer review, but the methodology seems sound (to me, an armchair biologist).

Yeah my first question was "how the hell did they get approval for a human trial". Until covid I don't think you would even be able to get approval for mRNA flu vaccine human trials.

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Treczoks lemmy.world Treczoks@lemmy.world
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That was one of the headlines I was very afraid of. The point that this is "just" a bacteriophage mitigates it a bit, assuming that they just modified the anchoring and injection RNA code, but even this might get out of hand.

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peopleproblems lemmy.world peopleproblems@lemmy.world
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Based on the linked paper, it reads like they took an existing open weight LLM, tacked on a scheme to parse and output genomics data, and finetuned it a bit. It’s the same approach chatgpt and other big-name models use for reading and producing images, but applied to a different data format.

Yeah see that is what I couldn't figure out, but it lines up.

It's not how I would generate anything other than text and certainly not any sort of medical treatment

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
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Yeah, I’d die before I let them do this shit to me.

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Do any other furries see what I see in that thumbnail? 🥵

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