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‘Pure arrogance’: anger in Finland as Google illegally fells 250,000 trees for datacentre
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Riddick3001 lemmy.world HowRu68@lemmy.world
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Behind a wire fence lies a vast gaping wound of earth. Before Google’s arrival a few months ago, an estimated quarter of a million trees occupied the 330 hectares (815 acres) of forest near the town of Muhos in rural northern Finland. Now they are all gone.

After the tech company illegally stripped the entire area to build a datacentre – taking even the top soil with it – all that remains is a vast expanse of mud indented with the trail marks of machinery, puddles and mounds of earth, roots and branches. Residents say that brown water flowing off the site is going into a stream that feeds the Oulujoki River.

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20cello lemmy.world 20cello@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-07
#2 · Quote Reply

Fine them to oblivion

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Freeposity lemmy.world Freeposity@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-27
#3 · Quote Reply

I bet Petteri Orpo ends up with a job at Google for a very large salary once he's thrown out of office.

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BeatTakeshi lemmy.world BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-12
#4 · (edited) Quote Reply

That's heartbreaking. When do we set those motherfuckers on fire?

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BremboTheFourth piefed.ca BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca
Joined: 2025-07-02
#5 · Quote Reply

This isn't something that just happens overnight. The local government and law enforcement also needs to be held accountable for failing to stop this.

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Riddick3001 lemmy.world HowRu68@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-10
#6 · (edited) Quote Reply

This isn't something that just happens overnight. The local government and law enforcement also needs to be held accountable for failing to stop this.

just happens overnight.

It kind of did actually, they went forward without license awaiting the results of an environmental damage assessment report.
Aslo Finland is quite sparsely populated ( ~18/ km2)

The local government and law enforcement also needs to be held accountable

Yeah 100%, seems that the Finnish ( and the European) law & mindset is not ready for this sort of BS . The Finnish Gvement actually endorsed this Google investment without even thinking of the consequences. Sort of like money is always good for our country bla la. But in this case it's actually not true, unless you really tax them/make them pay.

This story is like a warning for others what could happen one day - or maybe already has happened - in your own backyard.

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mrcleanup lemmy.world mrcleanup@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-08
#7 · Quote Reply

Fine them to oblivion

Not just fines please. I'm a big fan of "you have to put it back the way it was before we can let anything else proceed with the project" as well

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-06-16
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Not just fines please. I'm a big fan of "you have to put it back the way it was before we can let anything else proceed with the project" as well

And jail time for executives, board members, and majority shareholders.

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-05-30
#9 · (edited) Quote Reply

So what, just catch the responsible person there? Then you can figure out who actually gave the commands, while the construction progress is halted. It's a illegal building site anyway, you'll do nothing wrong by just going ahead.

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boobookittyfrick lemmy.zip boobookittyfrick@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-07-29
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TacoButtPlug sh.itjust.works TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-02
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The correct response to this would be prison time for Google execs. China kills greedy execs.

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halcyoncmdr piefed.social halcyoncmdr@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-01-15
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Fine them to oblivion

Just cancel the building permits.

They already proved they won't follow even basic requirements.

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halcyoncmdr piefed.social halcyoncmdr@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-01-15
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Not just fines please. I'm a big fan of "you have to put it back the way it was before we can let anything else proceed with the project" as well

That includes the 50+ years of growth needed to get it back to the "way it was". Of course.

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mrcleanup lemmy.world mrcleanup@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-08
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That includes the 50+ years of growth needed to get it back to the "way it was". Of course.

Oh, definitely.

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BigShammy80 feddit.org BigShammy80@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-02-21
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To see something ilke this makes me furios.

In times of climate change, they just don't give a fuck. Think about all the wildlife that is killed or cast out by this.

You can't leave Google fast enough, that's for sure.

Fucking evil company.

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unglueclass23 programming.dev unglueclass23@programming.dev
Joined: 2026-04-20
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In addition to the 250,000 trees felled at Muhos, Annala estimates that an additional 150,000 trees were felled at Otanmäki. Because the trees have been felled illegally, she says wood from the two sites cannot be sold to wood-processing plan

400k trees in total. Inconceivable number.

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kroca lemmy.world kroca@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-19
#17 · Quote Reply

What can we do as citizens?
Somebody an idea? E.g. reach out to the authorities in finnland an eu

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mirshafie europe.pub mirshafie@europe.pub
Joined: 2025-11-07
#18 · Quote Reply

What can we do as citizens? Somebody an idea? E.g. reach out to the authorities in finnland an eu

Wear sandals. Fight like a dead man.

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dangling_cat piefed.blahaj.zone dangling_cat@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-06
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And jail time for executives, board members, and majority shareholders.

I’m a big fan of community service. Making them wake up at 5am for the next 30 years to plant trees sounds great.

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mirshafie europe.pub mirshafie@europe.pub
Joined: 2025-11-07
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The correct response to this would be prison time for Google execs. China kills greedy execs.

I oppose the death penalty, but holy hell is it good that they hold the people at the top personally accountable for crimes.

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BitUnWise programming.dev BitUnWise@programming.dev
Joined: 2026-04-15
#21 · Quote Reply

Seize the land and 'fine' them by having them pay to replant the forest

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betanumerus lemmy.ca betanumerus@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-02-22
#22 · (edited) Quote Reply

If it was in fact illegal, when is rebuilding the forest scheduled to start?

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Eheran lemmy.world Eheran@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-26
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just happens overnight. It kind of did actually, they went forward without license awaiting the results of an environmental damage assessment report. Aslo Finland is quite sparsely populated ( ~18/ km2) The local government and law enforcement also needs to be held accountable Yeah 100%, seems that the Finnish ( and the European) law & mindset is not ready for this sort of BS . The Finnish ...

No it did not "kind of happen overnight".

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strawberry_enjoyer42 lemmy.blahaj.zone strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-04-20
#24 · Quote Reply

In addition to the 250,000 trees felled at Muhos, Annala estimates that an additional 150,000 trees were felled at Otanmäki. Because the trees have been felled illegally, she says wood from the two sites cannot be sold to wood-processing plan 400k trees in total. Inconceivable number.

Someone in another reply said they should be fined 1m/tree...

400b seems fair :3

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strawberry_enjoyer42 lemmy.blahaj.zone strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-04-20
#25 · Quote Reply

The correct response to this would be prison time for Google execs. China kills greedy execs.

And a 1m/tree fine (400b in total) :3

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searabbit piefed.social searabbit@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-03-08
#26 · Quote Reply

No it did not "kind of happen overnight".

What's your source?

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Million lemmy.zip Million@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-06-30
#27 · Quote Reply

What's your source?

Any finnish article that talks about the timeline.

Afaik they asked for permissions in March, the permission was pending and they already were felling trees.

Few months later they are like "oh there is this building law that can give us permissions"

They also file that and get permission for "preliminary construction proceedings" or something like that, while the permission from the first place that is trying to calculate the environmental impact is still pending, they halt the site in october.

So about 6 months it was going and someone should have stopped it if permissions were not cleared.

https://yle.fi/a/74-20251890

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dropdrip lemmy.ml dropdrip@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-04-19
#28 · Quote Reply

What can we do as citizens? Somebody an idea? E.g. reach out to the authorities in finnland an eu

Drop Google completely. Don't use it. They're telling the Americans who to kill and enabling Israel's genocide.

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