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SSTF
lemmy.world
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-15 |
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snoons
lemmy.ca
snoons@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-16 |
Can someone please explain to me what 4 has to do with the PHP security thingymajiger lol |
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Hudell
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-06-22 |
Can someone please explain to me what 4 has to do with the PHP security thingymajiger lol
Imagine a big stamp. Anything stamped with it, the internet in general trusts. Because we all trust that nobody knows how to stamp things like that big stamp. Except instead of a literal stamp, it's a secret combination of numbers and letters that works like a password. It now turns out that this secret combination of numbers and letters was just the number 4. |
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mkwt
lemmy.world
mkwt@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-18 |
Can someone please explain to me what 4 has to do with the PHP security thingymajiger lol
It's a different thingymajigger. One of the orgs that does TLS infrastructure was found to have used 4, a number from Sesame Street, as a private key on a TLS cert that was used to sign other certs. |
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marcos
lemmy.world
marcos@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
It's a different thingymajigger. One of the orgs that does TLS infrastructure was found to have used 4, a number from Sesame Street, as a private key on a TLS cert that was used to sign other certs.
Just to add. Those private keys are a 85 to 170 digits random number. A very central company whose security the entire internet depends on picked 00000000000....0000004. |
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[object Object]
lemmy.ca
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-07-20 |
Imagine a big stamp. Anything stamped with it, the internet in general trusts. Because we all trust that nobody knows how to stamp things like that big stamp. Except instead of a literal stamp, it's a secret combination of numbers and letters that works like a password. It now turns out that this secret combination of numbers and letters was just the number 4.
My favourite analogy on this is that they had a master key with 398 slots for bumps, and they decided to only use one notch/bump for the whole thing. You can’t open that with most regular keys, but if you try the most basic of picking you’ll find it pretty quick. |
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AeronMelon
lemmy.world
aeronmelon@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-26 |
sigh This isn't going away anytime soon, is it? :) |
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EpeeGnome
feddit.online
EpeeGnome@feddit.online Joined: 2025-06-05 |
I mean, I assume it had the correct number of bits in it, it's just that all but the 3rd least significant bit were all 0s. |
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4am
lemmy.zip
4am@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-23 |
Just to add. Those private keys are a 85 to 170 digits random number. A very central company whose security the entire internet depends on picked 00000000000....0000004.
I can’t tell if it’s like, completely awful or kind of awesome. I mean, no one brute-forces private key space one bit at a time, do they? Hey America’s nuclear launch code was eight zeros (“00000000”) at some point in the 1960s; technically we’ve survived worse |
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SpaceNoodle
lemmy.world
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
sigh This isn't going away anytime soon, is it? :)
It's gonna be around 4 the 4seeable future. |
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T. Hex
lemmy.dbzer0.com
0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-08-16 |
I can’t tell if it’s like, completely awful or kind of awesome. I mean, no one brute-forces private key space one bit at a time, do they? Hey America’s nuclear launch code was eight zeros (“00000000”) at some point in the 1960s; technically we’ve survived worse
Almost assuredly someone is brute forcing all single-byte keys. In fact the private key equal to 4 is a single-bit, or "one hot" key, so an attacker could have found it by brute-forcing 384 different keys 😂 |
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Tehhund
lemmy.world
Tehhund@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-11 |
I can’t tell if it’s like, completely awful or kind of awesome. I mean, no one brute-forces private key space one bit at a time, do they? Hey America’s nuclear launch code was eight zeros (“00000000”) at some point in the 1960s; technically we’ve survived worse
I originally thought nobody would try brute forcing simple keys like this, but then the person who found the vulnerability did it so I bet other people have done it. It's less "gee hope this works" and more "If someone screwed up there key generation this might work," and screwing up key generation is a known problem. Rare, but it does happen as this case demonstrates. |
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CainTheLongshot
lemmy.world
CainTheLongshot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-05 |
It's a different thingymajigger. One of the orgs that does TLS infrastructure was found to have used 4, a number from Sesame Street, as a private key on a TLS cert that was used to sign other certs.
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lemmy.sdf.org
SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.orgJoined: 2023-06-21 |
And here I am, thinking about bits of entropy for my toy project's API key. |
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